webfact Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Activists File 'Nepotism' Complaint Over Prayuth's NephewBy Teeranai CharuvastraStaff ReporterAn August 8, 2014, file photo of Gen. Preecha Chan-ocha.BANGKOK — A group of activists today petitioned the National Anti-Corruption Commission to investigate the brother of junta chairman Prayuth Chan-ocha for appointing his son to an officer position in the army, an action they said amounts to nepotism.Srisuwan Janya, leader of a pro-transparency group called Defense of Thai Constitution Association, said the appointment exposes the junta’s hypocrisy as it has previously pledged to root out corruption and favoritism in the wake of the May 2014 military coup.Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1460963116 -- Khaosod English 2016-04-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 "This is an ordinary issue. I dont think its a problem at all, because its my power as the Minister of Defense. I can appoint anyone into employment at any time, he said" I think that says it all really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 A bit like pointing out 1 race car at F1, is driving fast. But somebody's gotta be the brave one to challenge the norm. Especially noteworthy doing so in the present situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Further clarification will lead to better understanding. And the whippings will continue until morale improves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 I see an attitude adjustment session for the activists on the horizon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djjamie Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) As a Junta they have license to do what they want. They can employ who they want when they want how they want. If they were working under a democratic system this would be highly unethical and is ironically in a small part why the Junta stepped in. Democracy allowed nepotism to flourish unabated. Pertinent questions by rational people before commenting would be, Is this person the best person for this position? Does he have the qualifications for this role? How many officers are appointed positions? One, hundreds, thousands? If he is but one officer appointed into 10 000 available positions then this is a non news story. If it is a position as general of combat forces then it is another story. With this mindset no relative of any govt official can have any job in Thailand that is govt or military related without it being construed as nepotism. Of course the doom and gloom media will contort this and omit important and critical facts to suit their means while the gullible will lap it up like new born pups on their mothers teat. Edited April 18, 2016 by djjamie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 As a Junta they have license to do what they want. They can employ who they want when they want how they want. If they were working under a democracy this would be highly unethical and is ironically in a small part why the Junta stepped in. Democracy allowed nepotism to flourish unabated. Is this person the best person for this position? Does he have the qualifications for this role? How many officers are appointed positions? One, hundreds, thousands? If he is but one officer appointed into 10 000 available positions then this is a non news story. If it is a position as general of combat forces then it is another story. With this mindset no relative of any govt official can have any job in Thailand that is govt or military related without it being construed as nepotism. Of course the doom and gloom media will contort this and commit important and critical facts to suit their means while the gullible will lap it up like new born pups on their mothers teat. You are babbling on this one. The Junta holds themselves up as an example of higher standards. Precisely for this reason, they should decry nepotism. "With this mindset no relative of any govt official can have any job in Thailand that is govt or military related without it being construed as nepotism. " No, there is a simple, well known solution. Simply follow an unbiased selection process that permits competition among qualified persons, and excludes decision makers who have a conflict of interest. Of course the doom and gloom media will contort this and commit important and critical facts to suit their means while the gullible will lap it up like new born pups on their mothers teat. Psychological projection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 "Four legs good, two legs bad." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 As a Junta they have license to do what they want. They can employ who they want when they want how they want. If they were working under a democratic system this would be highly unethical and is ironically in a small part why the Junta stepped in. Democracy allowed nepotism to flourish unabated. Pertinent questions by rational people before commenting would be, Is this person the best person for this position? Does he have the qualifications for this role? How many officers are appointed positions? One, hundreds, thousands? If he is but one officer appointed into 10 000 available positions then this is a non news story. If it is a position as general of combat forces then it is another story. With this mindset no relative of any govt official can have any job in Thailand that is govt or military related without it being construed as nepotism. Of course the doom and gloom media will contort this and omit important and critical facts to suit their means while the gullible will lap it up like new born pups on their mothers teat. Who are the rationale Thai people who would dare to ask pertinent questions? And so the meddling do gooders flail around precisely because an aloof junta has the expanding license to do whatever they want. Power corrupts. Absolute power does so absolutely. It's just a matter of time before it all blows up in their face. If it weren't them, it would be somebody else. Taking sides is merely choosing which flavor of shit you like over another. Nothing to gloat or lecture about. You sound ridiculous every time you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Who leaked it? In-fighting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 As a Junta they have license to do what they want. They can employ who they want when they want how they want. If they were working under a democratic system this would be highly unethical and is ironically in a small part why the Junta stepped in. Democracy allowed nepotism to flourish unabated. Pertinent questions by rational people before commenting would be, Is this person the best person for this position? Does he have the qualifications for this role? How many officers are appointed positions? One, hundreds, thousands? If he is but one officer appointed into 10 000 available positions then this is a non news story. If it is a position as general of combat forces then it is another story. With this mindset no relative of any govt official can have any job in Thailand that is govt or military related without it being construed as nepotism. Of course the doom and gloom media will contort this and omit important and critical facts to suit their means while the gullible will lap it up like new born pups on their mothers teat. From what I can tell no other applicants with similar or better qualifications was given a chance. The other problem is the one you mention of relatives of those in government of military being able to work in those areas. Of they should be able to do that but it needs to be handled transparently. This wasn't. Also having your dad give you the job just because you have the qualifications isn't on. In some ways this is worse than before. At least with Thaksin it was open and flagrant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 As a Junta they have license to do what they want. They can employ who they want when they want how they want. If they were working under a democratic system this would be highly unethical and is ironically in a small part why the Junta stepped in. Democracy allowed nepotism to flourish unabated. Pertinent questions by rational people before commenting would be, Is this person the best person for this position? Does he have the qualifications for this role? How many officers are appointed positions? One, hundreds, thousands? If he is but one officer appointed into 10 000 available positions then this is a non news story. If it is a position as general of combat forces then it is another story. With this mindset no relative of any govt official can have any job in Thailand that is govt or military related without it being construed as nepotism. Of course the doom and gloom media will contort this and omit important and critical facts to suit their means while the gullible will lap it up like new born pups on their mothers teat. nonsense in and nonsense out with djjamie Any corporation in the developed world has corporate governance procedures. Now we have his brother and now his nephew to go with his wife as Army Wives President right? it's obvious you have never managed anything of consequence (even your conscience). There should be transparent procedures and appraisals/selection criteria but the facts have never bothered your defence of the Junta before have they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Even if this guy is perfectly suited to the job, you simply can't employ him. The Junta say people need to keep their opinions to themselves in order to maintain and reconcile national unity; yet, they go and do stuff like this. How is this helping keep or restore people's faith? It isn't. One rule for us and another for them will never work. If they have to eat s***, then so do you! You made your bed.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmicbkktxl Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 5555,sorry but have to laugh about all the moronic junta lovers who really think army government is so much better than Thaksin or Yingluk,Better 1000 thaksins than one prayuth.So sad to see Thailand goes down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 As a Junta they have license to do what they want. They can employ who they want when they want how they want. If they were working under a democratic system this would be highly unethical and is ironically in a small part why the Junta stepped in. Democracy allowed nepotism to flourish unabated. Pertinent questions by rational people before commenting would be, Is this person the best person for this position? Does he have the qualifications for this role? How many officers are appointed positions? One, hundreds, thousands? If he is but one officer appointed into 10 000 available positions then this is a non news story. If it is a position as general of combat forces then it is another story. With this mindset no relative of any govt official can have any job in Thailand that is govt or military related without it being construed as nepotism. Of course the doom and gloom media will contort this and omit important and critical facts to suit their means while the gullible will lap it up like new born pups on their mothers teat. "Of course the doom and gloom media will contort this and omit important and critical facts to suit their means while the gullible will lap it up like new born pups on their mothers teat." Are YOU accusing junta opponents of being gullible??? 5555555555555! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) As a Junta they have license to do what they want. They can employ who they want when they want how they want. If they were working under a democratic system this would be highly unethical and is ironically in a small part why the Junta stepped in. Democracy allowed nepotism to flourish unabated. Pertinent questions by rational people before commenting would be, Is this person the best person for this position? Does he have the qualifications for this role? How many officers are appointed positions? One, hundreds, thousands? If he is but one officer appointed into 10 000 available positions then this is a non news story. If it is a position as general of combat forces then it is another story. With this mindset no relative of any govt official can have any job in Thailand that is govt or military related without it being construed as nepotism. Of course the doom and gloom media will contort this and omit important and critical facts to suit their means while the gullible will lap it up like new born pups on their mothers teat. Or the really gullible and naive will try and justify it by any means when we all know his only relevant qualification is his surname. Edited April 18, 2016 by Reigntax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybits Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Which part of "We are in Power." did you not understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinBoy2 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 I'm always amazed by the some on this forum seem to think there are good and bad guys here. Do you actually live here??? The ruling elite of whatever persuasion live and operate by the same rules. If they (Red, Yellow or Green) are in power the 'system' is theirs to exploit. The military have throughout all regimes operated exactly as they do today. Civilian administrations have allowed them to do what they do, since there is always the threat of intervention. The only reason this one has surfaced because the letter 'ordering' his appointment from his Father went viral on social media. They really need to work harder on that Chinese censorship system.....people spreading 'difficult' documents, troublesome to say the least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snig27 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 As a Junta they have license to do what they want. They can employ who they want when they want how they want. If they were working under a democratic system this would be highly unethical and is ironically in a small part why the Junta stepped in. Democracy allowed nepotism to flourish unabated. Pertinent questions by rational people before commenting would be, Is this person the best person for this position? Does he have the qualifications for this role? How many officers are appointed positions? One, hundreds, thousands? If he is but one officer appointed into 10 000 available positions then this is a non news story. If it is a position as general of combat forces then it is another story. With this mindset no relative of any govt official can have any job in Thailand that is govt or military related without it being construed as nepotism. Of course the doom and gloom media will contort this and omit important and critical facts to suit their means while the gullible will lap it up like new born pups on their mothers teat. Jamie, even by your standards, this is nonsensical self-protecting drivel. The letter being circulated in social media seems to show an order to hire. It had nothing to do with his fitness for the job. Lest we forget his father had a still unexplained very large amount of money in his personal bank account a couple of years back. I understand that you have painted yourself into an unenviable corner as a blind flagwaver for this junta, but surely even you can understand why this is so very wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Better watch out! Those green hummvies are just around the corner for the magical mystery tour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesAbitbol Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) As a Junta they have license to do what they want. They can employ who they want when they want how they want. If they were working under a democratic system this would be highly unethical and is ironically in a small part why the Junta stepped in. Democracy allowed nepotism to flourish unabated. Pertinent questions by rational people before commenting would be, Is this person the best person for this position? Does he have the qualifications for this role? How many officers are appointed positions? One, hundreds, thousands? If he is but one officer appointed into 10 000 available positions then this is a non news story. If it is a position as general of combat forces then it is another story. With this mindset no relative of any govt official can have any job in Thailand that is govt or military related without it being construed as nepotism. Of course the doom and gloom media will contort this and omit important and critical facts to suit their means while the gullible will lap it up like new born pups on their mothers teat. I can't even understand how you can say suchthings. I mean you criticize the past governments for their nepotism, populism, grafts, and yet when the Junta do exactly the same, you praise them. I really start to think you re living under the River Kwai Bridge like a siamese troll Edited April 18, 2016 by GeorgesAbitbol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 As a Junta they have license to do what they want. They can employ who they want when they want how they want. If they were working under a democratic system this would be highly unethical and is ironically in a small part why the Junta stepped in. Democracy allowed nepotism to flourish unabated. Pertinent questions by rational people before commenting would be, Is this person the best person for this position? Does he have the qualifications for this role? How many officers are appointed positions? One, hundreds, thousands? If he is but one officer appointed into 10 000 available positions then this is a non news story. If it is a position as general of combat forces then it is another story. With this mindset no relative of any govt official can have any job in Thailand that is govt or military related without it being construed as nepotism. Of course the doom and gloom media will contort this and omit important and critical facts to suit their means while the gullible will lap it up like new born pups on their mothers teat. I believe this is what Australians now call the Essendon excuse. When caught red handed go into denial, obfuscation, bluff, bluster, and blame someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegee Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Not another rumble of discontent, another open expression of it. So we can expect more crackdowns and arrests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirtless Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 The more things seem to change , in reality the more they stay the same., These guys are clowns , now in civilian clothing , if only Thais could see it for what it is, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudStrife Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 "Hey! Stop accusing me of nepotism because my son somehow beat all the other candidates to the job! I asked my BROTHER the PM and he said it's just fine!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Gen. Preecha defended the appointment of his son, saying the letter was in compliance with all regulations and was common practice in the military. The General should be told that something being "common practice" in the military is not a justification, but rather a good reason to investigate. Pompous moron. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx22cb Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 As a Junta they have license to do what they want. They can employ who they want when they want how they want. If they were working under a democratic system this would be highly unethical and is ironically in a small part why the Junta stepped in. Democracy allowed nepotism to flourish unabated. <<snip>> "Democracy allowed nepotism to flourish unabated. " Why are you blaming Democracy - do you have something against this principle? It's unethical people operating in a complacent culture that enables corrupt practices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudStrife Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 As a Junta they have license to do what they want. They can employ who they want when they want how they want. If they were working under a democratic system this would be highly unethical and is ironically in a small part why the Junta stepped in. Democracy allowed nepotism to flourish unabated. Pertinent questions by rational people before commenting would be, Is this person the best person for this position? Does he have the qualifications for this role? How many officers are appointed positions? One, hundreds, thousands? If he is but one officer appointed into 10 000 available positions then this is a non news story. If it is a position as general of combat forces then it is another story. With this mindset no relative of any govt official can have any job in Thailand that is govt or military related without it being construed as nepotism. Of course the doom and gloom media will contort this and omit important and critical facts to suit their means while the gullible will lap it up like new born pups on their mothers teat. "Meet your new boss, he's the same as the old one." Twist and turn it all you like. You are supporting a hypocritical regime but the difference is this one answers to NO ONE. Such a typical attutide of a foreign junta supporter "Thaksin the dirty crook he can't appoint his sister to lead the party! Neoptism Grrr. Oh brother O-cha has appointed his son to a high ranking position? Well that's ok because it they are a junta" pathetic excuse. Us traditional elites can so corruption, dirty politicians can't. Pure hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 It shows how shameless they are! Due to his high position in the network, this guy only needed to give a few phone calls to get a job for his son in CP, Kasikorn or wherever. But no, he chose to recruit him in the army, and even in the same unit he commanded until 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) Better watch out! Those green hummvies are just around the corner for the magical mystery tour! A magical mystery tour to the nearest immigration holding pen, for a Rambo style hosing down and beating, you bet yer! Edited April 18, 2016 by Wilsonandson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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