AllanB Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Just wondered what a PCX is like at climbing two up.... It's not for Thailand and it will be a PCX125cc......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 perfect choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzz Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Climbing is good. Going down the hill with at full capacity might be a problem. Overheating brakes have been reported. Manual transmission in the mountains is probably a better idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namplik Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Automatic and mountains are not a good combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Depends on how heavy you are, how steep the roads and your load. Much better on something around 250cc that has better brakes and suspension. It would certainly be more fun than on a PCX! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) Study the Phuket and Samui accident reports from the "hills". Rear drum brakes? To me it looks like a typical boulevard cruiser not a thing for the hills and the mud. Edited July 3, 2016 by KhunBENQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 I been riding one on the mighty mountains on Phuket 2up one more than one occasion and it was fine but I would think its a bad idea for the Himalayas The PCX is more versatile than many thinks, there was one here on TV that went all the way to Singapore and back on one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petertucker48 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 For mountains definitely a manual gear change,make the gear box do the work. Can I suggest you look at a Yamaha Exciter about the same price as the Honda PCX 125. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Osolecent PCX125s selling for 15K in Thailand [where the OP is not]. Exiciter handles mountainous terrain swell [seen it] one-up. 2-up [as OP] dubious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzz Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 A new belt and roller kit might benefit a rider in the mountains? I'm no expert but there are options to give you more low end grunt or higher top end. Not both. Am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyNow Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I have the first-gen PCX and have taken it up north multiple times through mountains. Up Doi Inthanon as well. With myself (80kg) and my gear (maybe 7 kg?), it's slow going on the steepest bits, but it can be done without getting the sense that I'm thrashing the bike. I've never had a problem with the engine or brakes overheating in either direction. That said, doing it 2-up is another matter, and I think that unless you and your pillion are real lightweights, you might be better off with a Forza 300or Burgman 200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee4Life Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I researched bikes quite a bit before buying a Phantom, and heard a few complaints from my wife's relatives and also foreigners about the PCX stalling on steep hills when loaded heavy. While it's not a scooter, the Phantom is really a great mountain bike from my experience. I can't say it's a perfect bike for the long, straight high speed roads in the low lands though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 FUN!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 If you want to get to the top and back down just go for it. Forget all this stuff about gears,suspension? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katipo Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Not as gutsy as I would have liked, but not bad. Depends a lot of the condition of the belt too. Any slipping and you will suffer. Ideally they should be changed not long after 10,000 kms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLIGAD Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 If you want to get to the top and back down just go for it. Forget all this stuff about gears,suspension? Not very helpful. And your suggested solution/alternative is............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 If you want to get to the top and back down just go for it. Forget all this stuff about gears,suspension? Not very helpful. And your suggested solution/alternative is............. yes..."just go for it." farang tink tooo mut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuijimmy Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 One thing to make sure of is to have a clean air filter.... not only increases gas mileage but performance too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzz Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Low tire pressure will suck up some horsepower too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissables Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I have done a lot on my PCX, mountains and some off road included, if interested read the trip report pasted below. I had front brake failure too many times in the mountains. In the end i changed disc, pads and brake fluid, that fixed it. Also i shredded the belt, which i changed on the trip, this was maybe due to being overweight. Me and full luggage would bottom out on some rough roads. But great fun and it went wherever i went! http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/797874-small-motorbikes-and-travel-in-thailand-with-photos/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deli Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Totally crap due to a lack of power. Rented one once and it failed completely to climb hills on Samui ( with 2 people ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernphil Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Sorry a bit off topic but has anyone put a different 'type' of tyre on the rear of a PCX..? I don't like the stock tyre, plus it now needs changing. Yes a few years ago I started with the PCX 125 and when the tyres needed replacing I had Michelin's fitted . I didn't like IRC that came with it , always felt I was going to drop the scoot in the rain. Upgraded to a PCX 150 a couple of years later and that wore Dunlop . Last year I upgraded to a Forza this too wears Dunlop . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) I used a 125 cc kawasaki kmx to climb up to baguio, (philippines). My lady and two backpacks. Never, ever again. At high elevations, in traffic, it overheated often. That was on top. Going up was painfully slow, and going down our brakes overheated. Swelled up and failed. It rained on the downhill run and we were stuck behind a slow moving truck. Don't do it unless you have some power...and great brakes. My Yamaha Serow (225) was a bit better at climbing. With the 125, if you slow down on an incline, you never regain your momentum. The 225 maintained. Edited July 5, 2016 by slipperylobster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 If you mean mountain dirt type roads, then I would not think so, but if you mean ordinary surfaced roads in good condition with steep hills, and bendy roads, then it is excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 If you mean mountain dirt type roads, then I would not think so, but if you mean ordinary surfaced roads in good condition with steep hills, and bendy roads, then it is excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 If you mean mountain dirt type roads, then I would not think so, but if you mean ordinary surfaced roads in good condition with steep hills, and bendy roads, then it is excellent. Sorry Allan, I answered right away after reading the headline. IMO, riding a 125cc with a passenger if both of you weigh about 120 Ks, yourself and a 40 K girl then I think OK, but otherwise I would forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzz Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Lots of advice on the PCX forums. The cheapest solution looks like changing to the lighter rollers in the variator. . The expensive option is changing cylinder, piston, cam, valves, exhaust, intake & ECU. ...then probably the cooling system too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toblerone2 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I took a 150cc rented PCX up Doi Ang Khang a while back, frankly it could barely cope (the road is very steep in places though) all the locals seem to use 125 honda semi autos, they can go up anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogal Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) Make sure you change the tires to Michelin's! Terrible sliding if you hit any kind of moisture on the road! Not sure if this is a bike design issue or the cheap tires they use but Michelin's seems to correct it reasonably well, just please take extra care if you encounter rain, even a tiny amount. Never had a problem with brakes overheating, just make sure you're using a good brand brake pad, not the 120 baht kind! Makes sense but check them anyway. I also modified my seat because Im tall to a straight seat (no curves) and the extra padding they needed to use makes it a real comfy ride now I just realize your using a 125, 150 would be better for sure! Even 150 is not quite enough for mountains but it is a nice bike to ride long distances.BTW I still think you are insane to ride a bike in Thailand but I know you're gonna do it anyway, hence the advice Take care! Edited July 5, 2016 by pogal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 PCX125 two-up will do better than 50cc 2 up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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