webfact Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Gay novice monk, 15, murders ex at Chiang Mai templeImage: Daily NewsCHIANG MAI: -- A gay novice monk stabbed his ex boyfriend 13 times at a Chiang Mai temple in the early hours of Thursday morning.San Kamphaeng police were called to the temple of Wat San Kang Pla after reports of a murder outside the monks' quarters, reported Daily News.They found Udomsak Ratana, 19, a first year student at a Chiang Mai university outside one of the blocks dead from multiple stab wounds.He had been stabbed in the chest, shoulder and neck a total of 13 times.The temple was shut up for the night as it was 1am so police suspected an inside job and started interviewing the novices. One stood out who was behaving suspiciously near the robes where there were also bloodstains.The other monks called him Novice Kitty because he had a Hello Kitty bedspread and liked to use things with the Hello Kitty emblem."Kitty" ,15, was wearing pyjamas and soon admitted he was responsible.Both him and the victim came from Chiang Rai and had come to the temple after their ordinations. They had fallen in love. They stayed in monk's quarters next to each other.But in March the victim had got into university and left the monkhood. However, he came back on Thursday and asked to sleep with Kitty. Kitty said he didn't love him any more and refused to sleep with him.An argument broke out and when it started to turn violent the 15 year old produced a knife and stabbed his former lover in the neck.The victim tried to escape and ran outside but Kitty chased him and stabbed him multiple times until he was dead. He then threw the murder weapon in a pond.When police arrived he decided to admit what he had done.He was taken to be defrocked then detained and readied for prosecution.Source: Daily News-- 2016-07-08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Now it is goodbye Kitty, stupid young idiot. Typical behavior of young Thai males. If they do not get their own way they lash out, have a tantrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Now it is goodbye Kitty, stupid young idiot. Typical behavior of young Thai males. If they do not get their own way they lash out, have a tantrum. They want to be men but have the mentality of a child. Thing is very few actually grow up. Maybe Thailand should be advertised by the TAT as the home of Peter Pan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms22 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) I'm sorry but far too many Thai men are like wild animals. Edited July 8, 2016 by cms22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nudgerman Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Being so young and even though he was in the right place, he never grasped or fully understood the true meaning of Ego. Now he will live in disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebyrd Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 A curious way to find enlightenment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 When one person kills another I would place no credence whatsoever on their testimony, since they know that there is going to be no counterclaim, and they are surely going to paint themselves into the most favourable situation possible. Highly likely that the story has been completely reversed ! Not that it matters much though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Hell hath no fury as, errr... gay monk scorned?...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I'm sorry but far too many Thai men are like wild animals. I disagree with you. Animals only kill for food and in defence, they dont generally kill for no reason (there are a few exceptions I know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) Now it is goodbye Kitty, stupid young idiot. Typical behavior of young Thai males. If they do not get their own way they lash out, have a tantrum. They want to be men but have the mentality of a child. Thing is very few actually grow up. Maybe Thailand should be advertised by the TAT as the home of Peter Pan Yes, and (second only to China), "Hub of the young Emperor syndrome." (Other contenders being anywhere with lots of Jewish & Italian mums.) Edited July 8, 2016 by The Deerhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey4u Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 We are living in a sick world these day's. Don't like someone grab a gun or knife and use it When I was young if you dislike some one a punch up soon sorted the problem and both parties moved on in life The Hello Kitty bed cover for a 15 year old is just a small clue how immature this boy is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukjim Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Being so young and even though he was in the right place, he never grasped or fully understood the true meaning of Ego. Now he will live in disgrace. I guess that he didn't get his reach around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 The practising of inner peace at it's best. Very sad story and clearly this young man (well boy really) had learnt nothing from the Buddhist teachings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Now it is goodbye Kitty, stupid young idiot. Typical behavior of young Thai males. If they do not get their own way they lash out, have a tantrum. They want to be men but have the mentality of a child. Thing is very few actually grow up. Maybe Thailand should be advertised by the TAT as the home of Peter Pan NO, Peter Pan a good............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanku Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Now it is goodbye Kitty, stupid young idiot. Typical behavior of young Thai males. If they do not get their own way they lash out, have a tantrum. They want to be men but have the mentality of a child. Thing is very few actually grow up. Maybe Thailand should be advertised by the TAT as the home of Peter Pan At 15 he is, technically, a child. Pity there seems to be no pastoral care system in which the adult monks can counsel teenagers with problems. Surely someone at the temple would have been aware that all was not right with this kid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 We are living in a sick world these day's. Don't like someone grab a gun or knife and use it When I was young if you dislike some one a punch up soon sorted the problem and both parties moved on in life The Hello Kitty bed cover for a 15 year old is just a small clue how immature this boy is Erm, don't think so my friend. The Western world has significantly less murders today then it did 30 or 40 years ago. But I do agree that (although I don't condone violence at all) it's better if he had just got a punch in the chops rather then this outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 had he attained senior monkhood he would have known money laundering and wildlife trafficking is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trujillo Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I think this is also an indictment on the state of Buddhism here now. Monks with cell phones, iPads, shopping for fashion items...180 degrees away from what they are supposed to be doing and the way they should be acting. It's pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted July 8, 2016 Author Share Posted July 8, 2016 15-year-old Novice Monk Fatally Stabs Ex-Monk After Being Asked for Sexby CityNewsCityNews – A novice monk has been arrested after fatally stabbing an ex-monk in San Kang Pra Temple after the ex-monk came back to the temple to sleep over and try and have sex with the novice.On July 7, police arrested the novice monk who admitted to stabbing the ex-monk 13 times in the chest, shoulder and neck after an arguement with the ex-mok following sexual advances.The novice monk is 15 years old. Full story: http://www.chiangmaicitylife.com/news/15-year-old-novice-monk-fatally-stabs-ex-monk-asked-sex/ -- Chiang City News 2016-07-08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis7 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 No means no, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukjim Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 He just wanted a reach around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 No means no, period. That's true, but murder is not the right response either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) There's some budding "stars" amongst Thailand' monks...........certainly in the past few months, there's been some action happening!! Latest is now gay novices.....and a minor at that! Edited July 8, 2016 by ChrisY1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Under Thai law, as they were both teenagers, even though the murderer only 15, was there any legal issue if there had been consensual sex? I never heard of any such case in Thailand involving two teenagers past puberty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amykat Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Maybe the younger boy is not really gay. Maybe he was coerced into a sexual relationship starting at a much younger age and he had finally gotten rid of the older boy and the problem when he got kicked out/went off to school. He didn't have a lot of options or coping methods and so this happened. In other words, maybe he was a victim of child sexual abuse and when his abuser came back, he took some action?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggt Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 He was taken to be defrocked Will this interfere with his ability to collect gifts, food, and money from the public? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 In any case the report is this was an unwanted advance. But there would have to be more to it than that to defend a murder charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggusoil Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 No means no, period. That's true, but murder is not the right response either. Whatever, whatever, is this Buddhism at its best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanny321 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Maybe he was afraid of getting stabbed in the back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nudgerman Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 No means no, period.That's true, but murder is not the right response either. Whatever, whatever, is this Buddhism at its best? The word Buddha (for that was not his real name) means "fully awake" which as a man (a prince) is what he remarkably achieved. Any monk not following the path that he laid out is asleep and living in Ego, for it was only by annihilating his Ego did he become and attain enlightenment. So in answer to your question: No this incident has nothing to do with Buddhism in any way shape or form and anyone following his teachings that then deviates from it is off the path. The song is a great song but not all singers are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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