webfact Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Public warned as doctor cries foul after falling for online PayPal con Image: Daily NewsBANGKOK: -- A well known author who is a police hospital doctor has complained to his colleagues after being conned out of 50,000 baht in an online scam.Members of the public have been warned to watch out for the gang who have set up elaborate deceptions to make it appear that they represent the company PayPal used in transferring money, reported Daily News.Dr Pai - otherwise known as Piyapong Sakhornyen - is a leading forensics professional at the Police Hospital and author of the book "Mor Jep" (A doctor in pain).He made a complaint to the Crime Suppression Division's computer crimes section regarding an advertisement that he put online to sell a designer bag for 122,000 baht.A person emailed him claiming to be a prospective buyer.Confirmation came through an email that the money had been paid but too much had been remitted. The doctor fell into the trap and returned 19,000 baht or 500US dollars thinking he had really received the money.A further request for 800US dollars was also paid in connection with insuring the item that was for sale.When another request came the penny dropped and the doctor saw that he had been tricked into parting with money and that none had actually been paid in the first place.He warned the public to be careful about believing claims made in emails and to always contact the PayPal company at their centre directly in the event of queries.Police are investigating the scam and accept that the prospective buyer and the people claiming to represent PayPal are one and the same gang members.Source: Daily News -- 2016-07-28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taotoo Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 "a leading forensics professional" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardback Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 A cursory check of his PayPal account would have stopped this from happening. I wonder if other news stories will have a comment from a government official saying that their online payment system is safer, more secure etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Confirmation came through an email that the money had been paid but too much had been remitted. The doctor fell into the trap and returned 19,000 baht or 500US dollars thinking he had really received the money.A further request for 800US dollars was also paid in connection with insuring the item that was for sale. When another request came the penny dropped and the doctor saw that he had been tricked into parting with money and that none had actually been paid in the first place. Fool me once, fool me twice, but I'm too smart to be fooled three times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 As has been mentioned on here for years......common sense here is not so common.......a doctor no less, who doesn't think to check his affairs......... Wouldn't like to see him in the OR!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 A leading forensic professional? Well i hope he puts more effort into his work than he did checking his paypal account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 sorry but none of this makes any sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Those crooks are probably doing it to thousands of people every day, and every now and than they catch a fish, silly fish in this case, I get many phishing emails telling and warning me that my PayPal account should be re visited and more details needed and if I don't comply, my account will be closed......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Was the buyer from Nigeria, Thailand seems to be a great place to set up all kinds of scams,just offer high returns and the cash flows in.common sense and greed do not mix. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 These scams have been doing the rounds for years, nothing new. Ebay, Kaidee etc. The scam usually involves some plausible reason for paying you more than the advertised price. If it seems to good to be true, It is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 These scams have been doing the rounds for years, nothing new. Ebay, Kaidee etc. The scam usually involves some plausible reason for paying you more than the advertised price. If it seems to good to be true, It is. I can understand if the scammers used a bogus Paypal site to get the persons account information but that does not seem to be what is implied here or maybe it is just the way the report is written. It seems that he transferred the money from his paypal account to refund an bogus payment and overpayment, he would have had to log in to paypal to do this which means he should have clearly seen all recent transactions and the fact that there weren't any....weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-ebay-scams-to-be-aware-of/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 These scams have been doing the rounds for years, nothing new. Ebay, Kaidee etc. The scam usually involves some plausible reason for paying you more than the advertised price. If it seems to good to be true, It is. I can understand if the scammers used a bogus Paypal site to get the persons account information but that does not seem to be what is implied here or maybe it is just the way the report is written. It seems that he transferred the money from his paypal account to refund an bogus payment and overpayment, he would have had to log in to paypal to do this which means he should have clearly seen all recent transactions and the fact that there weren't any....weird It goes something along the lines of, Paypal is trying to send you money. (to send $200 for your $100 item), But paypal cant send it until you get insurance, pay an admin fee, etc etc. Usually an official looking fake email from Paypal, bank etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooHaa Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 sorry but none of this makes any sense Yes, reading can be such a chore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Sumo Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 As has been mentioned on here for years......common sense here is not so common.......a doctor no less, who doesn't think to check his affairs......... Wouldn't like to see him in the OR!! Common sense isn't more or less common here than it is in any other country in the world Westerners fall for phishing, boiler room and timeshare scams left, right and center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 PayPal.con but really, if he has done it through his real account, and on a real PayPal.coM site, then all he does is raisea Case, citing all the emals so far, submit a copy of his Police Report, and he'll get it back. If it was on a real site, then PayPal will wear the costs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbler Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Had he understood how Paypal works he would never have responded in the way that he did. He should have checked his Paypal account to see whether he had in fact received the payment. Taking 15 seconds to login would have confirmed that no money had been received. The problem (again) is the user and not the system (in this case, Paypal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Confirmation came through an email that the money had been paid but too much had been remitted. The doctor fell into the trap and returned 19,000 baht or 500US dollars thinking he had really received the money.A further request for 800US dollars was also paid in connection with insuring the item that was for sale. When another request came the penny dropped and the doctor saw that he had been tricked into parting with money and that none had actually been paid in the first place. Fool me once, fool me twice, but I'm too smart to be fooled three times. There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, 'fool me once... shame on... ... shame on you... ... ... fool me, you can't get fooled again.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdgbb Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Had he understood how Paypal works he would never have responded in the way that he did. He should have checked his Paypal account to see whether he had in fact received the payment. Taking 15 seconds to login would have confirmed that no money had been received. The problem (again) is the user and not the system (in this case, Paypal). "The problem (again) is the user and not the system (in this case, Paypal)." It's likely that you also would fall for this type of con if you think PayPal was involved in this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 PayPal.con but really, if he has done it through his real account, and on a real PayPal.coM site, then all he does is raisea Case, citing all the emals so far, submit a copy of his Police Report, and he'll get it back. If it was on a real site, then PayPal will wear the costs Think you missed the major part of this story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I had two phishing emails in my inbox this morning. Purporting to be from PayPal they stated there had been unusual activity on my account and I should log in to sort it out. I've probably had about ten similar emails previously. AS I've never used PayPal, even though I joined about 15 or so years ago, I was not likely to fall for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mansell Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 These scam guys are pretty slick at duping people, and usually cashing in on their greed which tends to blind people. I was working for a lawyer and his wife, and they had received a certified check for $10,000 with a promise of more than $50,000 to come. They only had to send $4,000 back to show good faith. I had a difficult time convincing them that the check they received was bogus, as they wanted to believe it was real as they mumbled about paying off their mortgage with the big check. Of course there wasn't any money in the bank because it took ten days or more for the check to bounce. Meanwhile they were inundated with phone calls pressuring them to send the $4,000 to them, and even threatening them because you have our $10,000. Eventually they brains kicked into gear and they realized it was a scam. Another was a lawyer buying a very high end Porsche sight unseen for around $50,000 cheaper than normal. So he wired around a $100,000 to a NY bank......minutes after wiring the money his brain kicked into gear and he called the NY bank to hold the money. They responded that the money was gone within two minutes to an Eastern European bank.......bye bye money and no Porsche. The common Craigslist one in America was a low price car or bike or camper.....when you contacted them they were usually in the US military posted to Europe. But their brother would handle everything through their Paypal account, (bogus website that looks real) and the vehicle would be delivered by brother or delivery company. When I asked where I could see the vehicle, it was usually in some remote state like Nebraska. So I would tell them I lived in the next state and could pop over to see it.....and that would be the end of all emails from them. Sometimes the names they used would be a tipoff. One was an American sergeant....when I did a search he had been killed in Iraq. Another name sounded familiar to me....when I searched he was a English poet from WWI. Not very original, but probably either Russians or Nigerians with not a great knowledge of American or English names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 A post containing offensive language has been removed: 8) You will not post disruptive or inflammatory messages, vulgarities, obscenities or profanities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ba ba Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I would like to know where he got the 100,000 plus bag in the first place ,maybe the border Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Let us hope he is more thorough in his professional life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 PayPal.con but really, if he has done it through his real account, and on a real PayPal.coM site, then all he does is raisea Case, citing all the emals so far, submit a copy of his Police Report, and he'll get it back. If it was on a real site, then PayPal will wear the costs Think you missed the major part of this story... ...responding to an email, an email, in this case, is not necessarily a real PayPal message I get mirrored emails of anything ebay or paypal related. That doesn't mean I dumbly respond to that 'email' - I go back to the PayPal and look at the real thing as many have said in this thread, HE the buyer is the one who didn't read everything was he simply sending money through to a PayPal buyer's email payment address any supposed payment TO his address, stands out quite differently on his oayPal history, differently to a Purchase entry in the History I guess in the past he always used Western Union His main problem in getting satisfaction back from PayPal, is that they see he is in Thailand, which is not a trusted location in PayPal's eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saminoz Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Had he understood how Paypal works he would never have responded in the way that he did. He should have checked his Paypal account to see whether he had in fact received the payment. Taking 15 seconds to login would have confirmed that no money had been received. The problem (again) is the user and not the system (in this case, Paypal). "The problem (again) is the user and not the system (in this case, Paypal)." It's likely that you also would fall for this type of con if you think PayPal was involved in this No, it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 "a leading forensics professional" Selling a "bag" worth over $4,000. Someone should be doing a bank check on this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I thought doctors were supposed to be intelligent? Remind me to avoid the Police Hospital, should anything happen to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindMagician Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 ...and all transactions in LoS will be via PP in the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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