New evidence prompts police to seek re-arrest of arson suspect

[webfact]

New evidence prompts police to seek re-arrest of arson suspect

 

 

BANGKOK: -- Police will seek the re-arrest of a recently-released arson suspect following the emergence of a new evidence.

 

Pol Gen Srivara Rangseepromnakul, the deputy national police, will travel to Nakhon Si Thammarat province on Tuesday to personally seek the provincial military court permission for the re-arrest of Mr Sakkarin Karuehat on charge with arsoning.

 

Pol Maj-Gen Chaiyapol Chatchaidet, the chief enquiry officer in charge of the arson and bomb attacks in seven southern provinces clarified that Mr Sakkarin was initially arrested with an arrest warrant issued by the provincial court in Nakhon Si Thammarat.

 

Howevever, it was later discovered that the materials used in the arson were explosives, the enquiry officer had to drop the arson charge against Sakkarin and, for that matter, the suspect had to be released.

 

But with the discovery of the new evidence – that explosives were used in the arson – police have to seek warrant from the military court instead of a civilian court for the arrest of Sakkarin.

 

Chaiyapol said that the old set of evidences on arson charge plus the new evidence would be presented to the military court to back up the police’s request for the arrest of Sakkarin.

 

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/new-evidence-prompts-police-seek-re-arrest-arson-suspect/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-08-23

[dcnx]

This is the guy they let go, paid for his plane ticket to Chiang Mai, where he is currently spending time as a monk?

 

Good luck with that.

 

You couldn't make something like this up if you tried.

[edwinchester]

Farcical springs to mind.

[smedly]

24 minutes ago, dcnx said:

This is the guy they let go, paid for his plane ticket to Chiang Mai, where he is currently spending time as a monk?

 

Good luck with that.

 

You couldn't make something like this up if you tried.

oh dear

[Thian]

So it took them more than a week to find out that bombs were used to arson.....

[SABloke]

Howevever, it was later discovered that the materials used in the arson were explosives, the enquiry officer had to drop the arson charge against Sakkarin and, for that matter, the suspect had to be released.

 

But with the discovery of the new evidence – that explosives were used in the arson – police have to seek warrant from the military court instead of a civilian court for the arrest of Sakkarin.

 

This is so <deleted> confusing: are they saying that police can't arrest you directly if you use explosives while committing a crime?

That' s good to know...

 

[dotpoom]

They dropped  the initial charges when it was discovered that "explosives were used in the arson"......now they want to re-arrest him because they have discovered  that "explosives  were used in the arson". Have I got that right?

[SABloke]

10 minutes ago, dotpoom said:

They dropped  the initial charges when it was discovered that "explosives were used in the arson"......now they want to re-arrest him because they have discovered  that "explosives  were used in the arson". Have I got that right?

 

Pretty much. They're saying that they charged him for arson,  but because he used explosives they had to let him go (wrong charge and all...obviously too difficult to correct while he' s in detention 

 

And now they had to seek a warrant from the military court. Makes sense..

.not UNLESS Mr. Sakkarin turned out to be a military man himself perhaps.

 

The whole thing is as clear as peat.

[PoorSucker]

From the Nation.

 

Quote

In a related development, Pheu Thai Party caretaker deputy secretary-general Chavalit Wichayasut urged the government not to instigate a new round of political conflict by allowing television programmes to jump to conclusions about the attacks in the seven provinces without evidence to support their allegations and while the investigation was ongoing.

He urged the government to take action against the offending stations.

He congratulated the family of Sakkarin Karuehat, a suspect detained on suspicion of involvement in an arson attack at a hyper-market in Nakhon Si Thammarat province, after the charges against him were dismissed and he was release from custody.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Words fail....

 

Except, are the BIB going to ask this guy to pay them back for the airplane ticket they paid for him???

 

[worgeordie]

" arsoning.",thats a very serious charge,

regards worgeordie

[DennisF]

15 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

" arsoning.",thats a very serious charge,

regards worgeordie

 

 

I understand it is a regular occurrence in boyztown.

 

[Stargeezr]

Keystone.  What a word that is. I wonder   why the police were so quick to let this guy go

in the first place? Seems like a bunch of egg on the faces of the police now.

Geezer

[williamgeorgeallen]

if he is guilty will the police have to charge themselves with aiding and abetting the escape of a criminal? do the cops really have the power to arrest a monk?

[NongKhaiKid]

2 hours ago, Thian said:

So it took them more than a week to find out that bombs were used to arson.....

Yes and compare this to the Erawan bombing where in 17 hours all the victims were removed,   a supposed Scene of Crime examination was conducted and the area concreted over.

Maybe the arson wasn't seen as such a threat to tourism as would warrant unseemly haste.

[Caveat Emptor]

Can we expect a statement that releasing him etc was all part of some grand police strategy    ?

[slapout]

One of the things the bib appear to be good at is adding a new translation of laws that may or may not have been broken. This seems to depend on the station involved, age of policeman, rank of policeman, if on duty, if drunk, then add in the wealth of the suspected / involved people/person and those in the know, might give us a clue.

[jesimps]

1 hour ago, worgeordie said:

" arsoning.",thats a very serious charge,

regards worgeordie

More like what the cops are doing - "arsoning" about.

 

 

[than]

5 hours ago, dcnx said:

This is the guy they let go, paid for his plane ticket to Chiang Mai, where he is currently spending time as a monk?

 

Good luck with that.

 

You couldn't make something like this up if you tried.

Be Monk in laos or cambodia now 

[webfact]

Re-arrest of Tesco Lotus arsonist sought from Military Court in South

 

 

BANGKOK: -- The police investigators today sought warrant from the military court in Nakhon Si Thammarat for the arrest of a suspected arsonist for three serious charges.

 

The request to re-arrest Sakarin Karuhat came after the police found the fire at Tesco Lotus in Nakhon Si Thammarat was proved to be started from a bomb device detonated by mobile phone.

 

Sakarin was earlier released after the police dropped arson charge earlier filed against him.

 

But today the police have pressed three serious charges instead on this man, a resident of Chiang Mai province.

 

They are possession of explosive, detonation of the explosive and arson.

 

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/re-arrest-tesco-lotus-arsonist-sought-military-court-south/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-08-23

[greenchair]

6 hours ago, dotpoom said:

They dropped  the initial charges when it was discovered that "explosives were used in the arson"......now they want to re-arrest him because they have discovered  that "explosives  were used in the arson". Have I got that right?

Yep. They arrested him for arson. 

The man did not commit the offence of arson so was released. 

Now that he is not under arrest for the arson that he did not commit. 

They can make a new arrest because he planted a bomb. 

But when it is a bomb and not arson, it then comes under the jurisdiction of the military. 

So the police cannot arrest and send  him to the court  for a bomb, but they can detain him, and deliver him to the military. 

The military will then arrest him so that he can go to the military court. 

Simple. 

[sahibji]

why the change of heart? was there something left out in the initial investigations.

[kiwikeith]

16 minutes ago, sahibji said:

why the change of heart? was there something left out in the initial investigations.

Yes, the crack forensic team had not determined if this was a fire caused by an arsonist or a non terrorist spoilt brat bomber.

The attitude adjustment team will have to hold a special briefing to convert this sorrowfull soul to the straight and narrow, and forget that they now actually have one of the non terrorist bombers in their sights.

Given that only one man was involved, of several disguises including face mask to avoid breathing pollution I would say that the perp is a master of disguise and many more siteings will be made before his arrest.

[soalbundy]

32 minutes ago, sahibji said:

why the change of heart? was there something left out in the initial investigations.

yes, the investigation

[soalbundy]

5 hours ago, Caveat Emptor said:

Can we expect a statement that releasing him etc was all part of some grand police strategy    ?

Baldrick is in England

[dcnx]

3 hours ago, greenchair said:

Yep. They arrested him for arson. 

The man did not commit the offence of arson so was released. 

Now that he is not under arrest for the arson that he did not commit. 

They can make a new arrest because he planted a bomb. 

But when it is a bomb and not arson, it then comes under the jurisdiction of the military. 

So the police cannot arrest and send  him to the court  for a bomb, but they can detain him, and deliver him to the military. 

The military will then arrest him so that he can go to the military court. 

Simple. 

 

Who's on First?

[Si Thea01]

Under section 217 of the criminal code, an offender, if proven guilty is subject to imprisonment ranging from 6 months to 7 years or fined from B1000 to B14,000.  This states that whoever set fires to things belonging to another person.

 

Then there is section 222 which relates to anyone who causes an explosion so as to cause injury to things as defined in section 217 and 218; the latter setting out the following and shall be punished as provided in such Section

 

1. A building, vessel or floating house in which a human being dwells;
2. A building, vessel or floating house used for storage or manufacture of goods;
3. A house of entertainment or meeting place;
4. A building which is domain public of State, public place or place for performing religious ceremonies;
5. A railway station, airport, or public parking or mooring place for cars or vessel;
6. A steam-boat or motor-boat of five tons upwards, airplane or train used for public transportation, shall be punished with death, imprisonment for life or imprisonment of five to twenty years.

 

Now maybe, the alleged offender was charged incorrectly in the first instance, and under Thai law could not be held.  However, once the new evidence came to hand the police were required to seek a new warrant in order to apprehend him.

 

A number of things that cause concern are firstly, why wasn't a complete examination of the crime scene carried out in the first place in order to determine the cause?  If no examination out then it has been a flawed investigation from day one however, an examination may have been undertaken by someone without the necessary experience. Does the police officer have any training in the investigation of arson matters?  This is a specialists' field and cannot be carried out by a layman.

 

Secondly, why was his costs to fly to Chiang Mai paid for by police?  Another stuff up by the looks of it or does it have any relationship to his village and who used to reside there but now lives in the golden sands.  Guess like most matters, we will never know.

 

[Si Thea01]

4 hours ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

 

The court have refused to grant another warrant for him.

 

 

Another fine mess they've got themselves into.

[The Deerhunter]

On 8/23/2016 at 8:15 PM, sahibji said:

why the change of heart? was there something left out in the initial investigations.

One would think so.  Or change of mind.  My Thai wife is a world beater at that, except that she denies ever changing her mind.  She just "has a better idea."  I think it might be a national trait.