Working 35h per week at university for 30k?

[Nokkeaw]

I heard that universities allow you to leave the campus after you finish your teaching. However, in this university I went for an interview they said I have to make 35 hours per week, although a max of 15 of teaching. That is almost like being in a goverment school all day... Also they pay is not that great, only 30k.

I was excited about this job because I thought universities were more chilled and I could have part time job as well. Anyone experienced something similar with thai universities?

[Rhys]

It appears it again is fashionable by Thai adm to satang pinch and to see what they can get away with these days..

[otherstuff1957]

University teachers are expected to have office hours when they can talk to students, do their grading, prep, etc...   These office hours are usually regularly scheduled so people will know when they are available.  However, 20 office hours to 15 teaching hours sounds excessive.  I believe that equal numbers of teaching and office hours are more typical.

[Fookhaht]

5-7 hours per week is more common.


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[Shaunduhpostman]

Often they feel they need to have foreign faces for show and to create what they think is a better impression. That is what I would guess it all boils down to, that and just the usual authoritarian control freak style of many managers, admin higher ups etc. that you will find in most teaching jobs. They probably feel that you get up to no good if given too much time away from them and that you become a lost and confused foregner who would either go out womanizing, drinking or worse yet, start teaching your own lessons or work a second job for someone else. In most cases they would actually prefer it if you would live with them as well and maybe do housework and babysitting for their children, but I think they know thats taking it too far, but they will probably ask you if you would like to live at the school and perhaps rent a converted classroom, just say no, it ruins it for all of and they will start in with "Well. our last teacher Billy lived in the birdcage on the top of our classroom building and he just loved it! Why don't you want to stay in there?

[lemonjelly]

Maybe a "we can't go home early, why should you?" scenario, which I can empathise with.

[andrusius]

Well as someone who teaches at a uni here i can tell you that it really depends upon what uni you teach at and at what program. Some of the international programs have you sign in/out like mcdonalds. The wage is accurate i get paid a bit more because i am a specialist. The opportunities to make more $ involve more teaching...

[BaiLao]

Reality check: that's slightly over six dollars per hour.

Depends on the location. When not teaching you can bet your life they'll want you around to help them design test papers, correct PhD theses, attend interminable meetings...

Upside: you (presumably) get a visa & WP, then attend to your other ''sources of income''...

 

 

[Doc46]

You would be a first class idiot to work for that kind of money,,,,For Frits sake stay home and find a decent job,,,,if you can't you won't be any good for society ,you better go on Welfare ,,,that will give you more than what you make in Thailand,,, 5555

[williamgeorgeallen]

44 minutes ago, Doc46 said:

You would be a first class idiot to work for that kind of money,,,,For Frits sake stay home and find a decent job,,,,if you can't you won't be any good for society ,you better go on Welfare ,,,that will give you more than what you make in Thailand,,, 5555

i have to agree. i have met and talked to many english teachers since i moved here. i dont tend to associate with them however as they tend to live pretty miserable lives. low pay and getting treated badly by the school that resents paying foreign teachers more than its own thai teachers. different in the international schools of course. maybe do it for a year for the experience but dont plan to do it as a long term gig, turns most people sour.

[bark]

These schools take anyone. My daughter goes to one theThai -  International schools.

700,000 baht/year. Mostly American and Philippine teachers.

I swear that most of the monkeys, used to pick coconuts are smarter then these guys.

A lot of these using drugs. What a joke.

[Deepinthailand]

Can't coment on Uni. I teach in state school in village I am happy with the work. I get full time pay for basically part time hours. I go in for my first class at 1100 and I'm usualy home by 1700 only because I always stay after school for the sport and to do a bit of prep for the following week. I work one Saturday morning a month 0900 to 1300 for which I get extra pay. I also every two months go on camp (volunteer).  I have no problems with the Thai teachers at all in fact I have to say it's a happier environment than I ever had back in my home country teaching. If your looking to just get big money  and do very little then I suggest you shouldn't be teaching.

[tonray]

2 hours ago, bark said:

These schools take anyone. My daughter goes to one theThai -  International schools.

700,000 baht/year. Mostly American and Philippine teachers.

I swear that most of the monkeys, used to pick coconuts are smarter then these guys.

A lot of these using drugs. What a joke.

But apparently they are smart enough to get you to part with 700K baht per year....5555

[Torrens54]

Have the distinct feeling you are being "Got At."

No way would I work those hours for that paltry amount.

 

 

 

 

[bark]

11 hours ago, tonray said:

But apparently they are smart enough to get you to part with 700K baht per year....5555

Drop in the bucket, dude.

[tonray]

26 minutes ago, bark said:

Drop in the bucket, dude.

How much money you have is irrelevant. Throwing it away for teaching that you claim is ineffective with ignorant teachers is the point. 

[bark]

7 minutes ago, tonray said:

How much money you have is irrelevant. Throwing it away for teaching that you claim is ineffective with ignorant teachers is the point. 

Point is, I thought that the school should have been better. After 2 months I realized the school and drugged up teachers were a joke. So it was a drop in the bucket; and I learn that Swiss trained teachers are the best.

Moved my Kid to Singapore, who use Swiss teachers. Paid double the money but was worth it.

My money, my rules; right.

 

[teacherpaul]

6 hours ago, bark said:

Drop in the bucket, dude.

I doubt anyone who uses the word "dude" could afford 700,000 for their child's schooling.

[HampiK]

13 minutes ago, teacherpaul said:

I doubt anyone who uses the word "dude" could afford 700,000 for their child's schooling.

 

I am not a native nor use i this word in daily talking, but what this word have to do if you have money or not?

[bark]

1 hour ago, teacherpaul said:

I doubt anyone who uses the word "dude" could afford 700,000 for their child's schooling.

Sorry, I should have said " Mr. Dude " .  Is everybody Happy Now ?

 

[chowny77]

They are taking you for a ride with the hours/salary. Either you can walk or just ignore the extra hours. I would tell them to stick it up their arse but that is just my opinion.

 

[tonray]

10 hours ago, bark said:

Point is, I thought that the school should have been better. After 2 months I realized the school and drugged up teachers were a joke. So it was a drop in the bucket; and I learn that Swiss trained teachers are the best.

Moved my Kid to Singapore, who use Swiss teachers. Paid double the money but was worth it.

My money, my rules; right.

 

Swiss trained ? There are holes all through this story ....h aha

[taiwanatoa]

On 9/12/2016 at 5:25 PM, Nokkeaw said:

I thought universities were more chilled

Sure, you can set the air conditioning as strong as you like , but I wouldn't want to get the chills.

[Apinya Purnell]

are you a native speaker? do you have a TEFL or something in my school we are looking for  teachers less than 20 Hrs/week

35,000/months, 12 months contract. 

[tonray]

4 minutes ago, Apinya Purnell said:

are you a native speaker? do you have a TEFL or something in my school we are looking for  teachers less than 20 Hrs/week

35,000/months, 12 months contract. 

 

Location ?

[Apinya Purnell]

11 minutes ago, tonray said:

 

Location ?

Uttaradit.

[eldragon]

Some require you to be on campus 9 to 5ish, some don't. Next time you apply for a job, tell em you have other commitments and can only be on campus x amount of hours per week. Also, regarding the salary, you need to ask about the availability of extra work via enhancement courses. Every university has these enhancement courses from time to time and they usually need foreigners to teach em. They're paid hourly at 500 up and can usually be scheduled around your teaching hours. These are how you really clean up as a uni teacher.

Edited September 19, 2016 by eldragon

[thequietman]

7 hours ago, tonray said:

 

Location ?

How can he teach only on a TEFL? surely a degree is needed for a work permit?

[Fookhaht]

How can he teach only on a TEFL? surely a degree is needed for a work permit?

Not for teaching in a university.

A few years ago a uni. English Dept. where I worked hired a teacher with only a high school diploma. Main qualifications: native speaker, good-looking, young, and dazzling personality.

Go figure.


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[thequietman]

18 hours ago, Fookhaht said:

Not for teaching in a university.

A few years ago a uni. English Dept. where I worked hired a teacher with only a high school diploma. Main qualifications: native speaker, good-looking, young, and dazzling personality.

Go figure.


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yes, but I know the lady who offered the position and she is in charge of a government secondary school. Hence my question..................