Out-of-turn Windows 10 mega-update

[OJAS]

At this very moment in time an update called "Feature Update To Windows 10, Version 1607" is downloading at an extremely slow pace even for a snail on to my laptop....

 

Anyone know what this update relates to, please? And, given that Microsoft usually produce bumper-bundle updates for Windows 10 following the second Tuesday each month, why have they decided to inflict this particular update on me on the 4th Tuesday this month?

[KhunBENQ]

The "Anniversary Update".

By volume it's like a complete new version/image.

I have done it on the PC some two or three weeks ago.

Fortunately the download as such was very fast (almost full speed of my connection, 35 Mbit/s).

But the following installation process as such took much longer.

If you judge speed from the percent display: yes very slow at some points.

But that's after download completed.

Not much you can do.

 

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/06/29/windows-10-anniversary-update-available-august-2/

Edited September 27, 2016 by KhunBENQ

[OJAS]

1 hour ago, KhunBENQ said:

The "Anniversary Update".

By volume it's like a complete new version/image.

I have done it on the PC some two or three weeks ago.

Fortunately the download as such was very fast (almost full speed of my connection, 35 Mbit/s).

But the following installation process as such took much longer.

If you judge speed from the percent display: yes very slow at some points.

But that's after download completed.

Not much you can do.

 

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/06/29/windows-10-anniversary-update-available-august-2/

 

Many thanks for this comprehensive explanation. In effect it looks like we're talking about Windows 10 Mk III. As I recall from its initial launch in July 2015 Windows 10 was supposed to be the final word in MS operating systems. But now I'm seriously wondering how long it will be before Windows 10 Mk IV is inflicted on us!

[Chicog]

I think what you're talking about is September Cumulative update.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3093266

 

 

[roban]

7 hours ago, Chicog said:

I think what you're talking about is September Cumulative update.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3093266

 

Nope, at least the OP

Quote

an update called "Feature Update To Windows 10, Version 1607"

and KhunBENQ are talking about the  "Anniversery update", which is ~4GB in size.

It's not just an "update", but a complete replacement of the former Version 1511(?).

This update, converted into an "ISO", can also used to do a clean install.

 

 

[Digitalbanana]

^+1

Yes, my PC did a complete Win10 o/s update yesterday without notice as well besides the usual power off and apply updates notice on the start button. I went from ver 1511 to 1607 without much information being offered or choices given up front my MS as to whether I was ready to do this or not. After the download was done behind scenes the reboot took about 2-3 hours to update everything. It ran very smoothly, if you call 2-3 hours smooth, but I don't think MS taking 3 hours of my life without asking up front can be considered polite.

Edited September 28, 2016 by Digitalbanana

[OJAS]

6 hours ago, Digitalbanana said:

^+1

Yes, my PC did a complete Win10 o/s update yesterday without notice as well besides the usual power off and apply updates notice on the start button. I went from ver 1511 to 1607 without much information being offered or choices given up front my MS as to whether I was ready to do this or not. After the download was done behind scenes the reboot took about 2-3 hours to update everything. It ran very smoothly, if you call 2-3 hours smooth, but I don't think MS taking 3 hours of my life without asking up front can be considered polite.

 

I can just about take MS taking 2-3 hours out of my (and my laptop's) life on the day after the 2nd Tuesday of each month for the monthly cumulative update routine - but to do so at other times as in the case of the 1607 update is, I think, totally unreasonable.

 

The apparently weird timing of the 1607 update also begs the question as to the point of the September cumulative update referred to in post #4, which now strikes me as probably having been largely a waste of time in practice. Why on earth could MS have not rolled out the 1607 update in lieu of that particular cumulative update? Or waited and done this in lieu of the October cumulative update?

[chrisinth]

13 minutes ago, OJAS said:

 

I can just about take MS taking 2-3 hours out of my (and my laptop's) life on the day after the 2nd Tuesday of each month for the monthly cumulative update routine - but to do so at other times as in the case of the 1607 update is, I think, totally unreasonable.

 

The apparently weird timing of the 1607 update also begs the question as to the point of the September cumulative update referred to in post #4, which now strikes me as probably having been largely a waste of time in practice. Why on earth could MS have not rolled out the 1607 update in lieu of that particular cumulative update? Or waited and done this in lieu of the October cumulative update?

 

This happened (1607) to 2 computers in the office on Monday morning on boot. The two workstations were down for 1 1/2 hours each, no warning given.

 

It is bad enough for us to be inconvenienced at home, but i can't understand the logic MS is using for these updates to disturb business with no warning. i am reluctant to tell users to turn off updates and can't find a reliable way for the system to ignore individual updates with W10. 

[Chicog]

1 hour ago, chrisinth said:

 

This happened (1607) to 2 computers in the office on Monday morning on boot. The two workstations were down for 1 1/2 hours each, no warning given.

 

It is bad enough for us to be inconvenienced at home, but i can't understand the logic MS is using for these updates to disturb business with no warning. i am reluctant to tell users to turn off updates and can't find a reliable way for the system to ignore individual updates with W10. 

 

Hey, you clicked the License Agreement didn't you?

 

 

[chrisinth]

1 hour ago, Chicog said:

 

Hey, you clicked the License Agreement didn't you?

 

 

 

Yep, always a winner. Just waiting for the day when say, 20 workstations align and try to do a redstone update on all of them at one time. it will be interesting to see how our bandwidth handles that. Interesting to see how much downtime there will be as well.

[manfredtillmann]

the emoticon with the little one rolling with laughter is missing in my options...

but that's the one i would have posted right now!

i pulled the plug on this time and money wasting dinosaur some 8 months ago. and i can only recommend to all of you to do just the same.

 

[Chicog]

A simpler solution is to use one of the many freeware solutions that turns off all the Windows 10 telemetry.

One of the side effects (or perhaps you could call it an added bonus) is that Windows Update doesn't work with them switched off.

 

 

[chrisinth]

37 minutes ago, Chicog said:

A simpler solution is to use one of the many freeware solutions that turns off all the Windows 10 telemetry.

One of the side effects (or perhaps you could call it an added bonus) is that Windows Update doesn't work with them switched off.

 

 

 

And therein lies the problem. Personal and work environments are two different animals; my personal PC & notebook are both running W10 Pro, updates off and all unnecessary services disabled. Both work like dreams, have never had a problem with either of them. Anything nasty does happen, short of a power spike that kills the board & disk, just run the backup image again.

 

If anyone wants to tweak their systems, i would recommend following the advice on the link below. I have been using this guy's advice from the release of XP with no adverse effects. This is updated to 1511 for W10 but it shouldn't make any difference with the 1607 release.

 

http://www.blackviper.com/service-configurations/black-vipers-windows-10-service-configurations/ 

 

Mods, i don't think the link is breaking the rules as it is reference only, however if it is breaking them, please delete.
 

[KhunBENQ]

23 hours ago, OJAS said:

"Feature Update To Windows 10, Version 1607"

Definitely this complete new version as already stated.

 

[Chicog]

I wish they'd stick to one set of version numbers.

 

 

[Digitalbanana]

16 hours ago, Chicog said:

Hey, you clicked the License Agreement didn't you?

 

I agree with you - the license agreement sucks! I think MS need to do more homework on customer relations and stop pissing people off by hogging up their computers for 3 hours doing an unannounced 3 hour update. That said the update is running quite well despite the CPU hog of the file indexing (Microsoft windows search protocol host) at start ups which hopefully will disappear over time as an unwelcome unannounced intrusion into some of our daily routines as well.

[pieeyed]

Since the 20th my computer has tried to update to 1607 a dozen times and has failed every time. I am still running 1511 which is fine by me. It seemed to install the 1607 to maybe 97% and then would just lock up. For the last 3 days I do not see any auto updates.

[Chicog]

1 hour ago, Digitalbanana said:

 

I agree with you - the license agreement sucks! I think MS need to do more homework on customer relations and stop pissing people off by hogging up their computers for 3 hours doing an unannounced 3 hour update. That said the update is running quite well despite the CPU hog of the file indexing (Microsoft windows search protocol host) at start ups which hopefully will disappear over time as an unwelcome unannounced intrusion into some of our daily routines as well.

 

You can turn Indexing off for a while to speed things up, it won't do any harm.

Then, once everything else is done, turn it back on before you go to bed.

 

[huahinjoe]

Surprised by the update also this morning it went to update without no explanation as usual which is normally fine for small updates then took a nice half an hour to complete to this 1607 version. I started to feel there is some messing around because it took many restarts. It's a bit annoying when you need to do something quickly but can't because they completely reinstall the system. I agree at least a gentle notification before it does a major upgrade like this would be nice so can schedule it for later... I know its out for a while now but this time it looks like they pushing very hard to get everyone updated.

The list of new stuff if anyone interested: 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/4vrr27/windows_10_anniversary_update_megathread/

[Peterw42]

3 hours ago, pieeyed said:

Since the 20th my computer has tried to update to 1607 a dozen times and has failed every time. I am still running 1511 which is fine by me. It seemed to install the 1607 to maybe 97% and then would just lock up. For the last 3 days I do not see any auto updates.

 

I had he same thing happening, turned out to AVG antivirus not letting it finish, turned off avg and it finished in a couple of mins

[billd766]

I left my desktop on all last night and tried to update to 1607.

 

I looked in the settings update this morning to find

 

feature update to Windows 10, version 1607

 

Failed to install on 30 Sept

Failed to install on 30 Sept

Failed to install on 29 Sept

Failed to install on 29 Sept

Failed to install on 28 Sept

Failed to install on 27 Sept

 

Am I doing something wrong?

[Chicog]

Did you note the comment about Antivirus and try the update with it off?

 

 

[Pib]

5 hours ago, billd766 said:

I left my desktop on all last night and tried to update to 1607.

 

I looked in the settings update this morning to find

 

feature update to Windows 10, version 1607

 

Failed to install on 30 Sept

Failed to install on 30 Sept

Failed to install on 29 Sept

Failed to install on 29 Sept

Failed to install on 28 Sept

Failed to install on 27 Sept

 

Am I doing something wrong?

 

Looks like you'll need to do a manual install of 1607.  This MS page shows you how.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12387/windows-10-update-history

 

[billd766]

3 hours ago, Chicog said:

Did you note the comment about Antivirus and try the update with it off?

 

 

 

I am only using Windows Defender at the moment.

[Chicog]

I doubt it's that.

Have a look at the links this throws up:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=windows+10+build+1607+fails+to+install&oq=windows+10+build+1607+fails+to+install&aqs=chrome..69i57.6960j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[ignis]

Mine updated OK took over an hour, but notice now PC is slower than before + at the bottom right it says 'Activate Windows'  ??

 up graded free from Win 7 long ago ?? never had this notice before..

[Ace of Pop]

Yo ho I'm the only one in the place who is still using 7.and the update crazy ones have the probs.Thai Visa update is even worse than a windows one


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[bendejo]

I have found only one true way to not get automatic updates: go to 'services' and disable Windows Update -- setting it to manual won't stop it.  When you want to update (like after the 2nd Tuesday of the month) you'll need to go back into services and switch it on.

 

Gone are the days of being able to select which upgrades you want to install or reject.

 

 

[Pib]

And it will be interesting for Win7 users as this month is when MS is suppose to switch to the cumulative update process for Win 7 in an attempt to get rid of customers being able to pick and choose which updates to install.

 

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3115766/microsoft-windows/blame-microsoft-not-users-for-fragmented-patching-in-windows-7-and-81.html