Morch Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 2 hours ago, Strange said: Or, its pretty clear he's pissed for being slandered and defamed and rightly so should go after anyone that does this. A wonder he's not suing himself, then. Some of the bits on the media were his own words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, Morch said: What people do for a living does not entitle others to take liberties. Would it be more trustworthy coming from a lawyer, a career politician or salesperson? Honestly? Yes. While what the person was doing is legal and their right. Its their body; do as they wish. Dont even try to take a moral high road whilst taking dick for money. Actions are louder than words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Strange said: Honestly? Yes. While what the person was doing is legal and their right. Its their body; do as they wish. Dont even try to take a moral high road whilst taking dick for money. Actions are louder than words. Honestly yes to which one? What people do for a living entitles other to take liberties? Lawyers, career politician and salesman are trustworthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Morch said: What people do for a living does not entitle others to take liberties. Starts to back the moral, religious right into a corner. If a hot chick's not wearing a turtle neck and baggy trousers, then she's a loose woman of questionable morality, just asking to be groped..... or worse. This line of thinking and rationalization was still common place in the 80s and 90s. Seems to be where the Republican party is, stuck in a time warp vacuum. Don't even get them started on gays and lesbians. We could set aside the groping/kissing allegations. Trump's own words about his daughter, other young women, and using his position as an excuse to walk into pageant dressing rooms, is reprehensible all on its own. He can't refute his own words, his own admissions, backed by women say, yup, that's what he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 1 hour ago, kevkev1888 said: He is not off message. The media just report the parts of the message that they want to, at the same time not reporting all the bad shit about Hillary. Bias against Trump as always. The media often simply reports what he says. That's usually enough to cause outrage. The media does report negative things regarding HRC - it gets less traction as it's more complicated. The Trump campaign wasn't complaining about media coverage when he was doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Trump: I get blamed for everything I do. Unfair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 3 hours ago, LannaGuy said: if he's innocent of course he should sue! but it will all be too late as the HUGE establishment machine has ensured a crushing defeat and a really pissed off 35/40% who support him Hasn't he already proven that he's not really capable more than mens rea before losing his load? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 He'll sue anyone for anything. Sued Bill Maher for joking about Trump being born to an orange orangutan father! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 He's going to be one busy bunny over the next few months between sueing the new Clinton presidency and all these victims of his Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 A post containing inappropriate language has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesMad Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 1 hour ago, jerojero said: He'll sue anyone for anything. Sued Bill Maher for joking about Trump being born to an orange orangutan father! He probably will sue the orange orangutan for being his father Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Off his message, off his rocker, I've never seen a more toxic destructive personality in U.S. politics. Like a political cancer upon the land. Of course, I didn't experience Joseph McCarthy, a horrible villain that trump has a direct connection to via Roy Cohn, his early days mentor of evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 "Off his message"? Might I suggest "off his rocker"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 8 hours ago, boomerangutang said: He's not off his message. Part of his message is what a bottom-feeding cad he is. Two notes about Trump and lawsuits: more often than not, Trump's lawsuit threats aren't carried through, and women who have been abused by him can counter-sue. That would hasten his drop from fortune. Also; if something enters a court of law, a judge can order gag orders lifted and pursuance of evidence that's now stiffled, .....for example; many hours of cutting room floor Apprentice tapes. ....and witnesses. The latest woman who came forward (accusing Trump of abuse and predation) says there are witnesses who she doesn't want to name right now. Those sorts of witnesses could be compelled to come forward - if these messes came to court. Trump is in a lose / lose scenario. If he had any smarts, he would not exacerbate his problems by threatening to sue. It doesn't convince anyone of his innocence, except maybe his 2nd Amender rednecks. Unless of course, he is actually innocent and the women are lying. You appear to have found him guilty without bothering with the trial. Women never ever lie? People don't do things for spite or money? If guilty he should be punished in accordance with the law. Any committing libel and defamation should also be punished; as should anyone found guilty of influencing them to do so. Regardless of politics, this seems somewhat contrived. Either he's a serial molester who needs to be punished or this is a massive and illegal smear campaign and those responsible need punishing, The difference seems to be the time lapse. Why have so many waited for so long and then suddenly decide to come out now? Remember the Clinton accusers weren't so slow to come out but were ruthlessly and viciously attacked by lawyer Clinton who forgot about her women's rights champion image. Maybe some of those cases will come back too. Imagine the first Gentleman serving time while his wife is POTUS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Baerboxer said: You appear to have found him guilty without bothering with the trial. Well he is the one who confessed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 25 minutes ago, Chicog said: Well he is the one who confessed.... serial confessor - quite a few of them in the US. Just like serial accusers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Trump couldn't possible be that stupid! could he?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 The latest one is a porn star but they hasn't stopped CNN featuring it as their lead story. They are WORSE than Fox, scandalously bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiSePuede419 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) As the 11th victim said, she's just another grain of sand.... On Donald Trump's Beach. Edited October 23, 2016 by SiSePuede419 Clarify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 27 minutes ago, Prbkk said: The latest one is a porn star but they hasn't stopped CNN featuring it as their lead story. They are WORSE than Fox, scandalously bad. you mean she brought it upon her self for being a porn star, and the media should not report it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiSePuede419 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 31 minutes ago, Prbkk said: The latest one is a porn star but they hasn't stopped CNN featuring it as their lead story. They are WORSE than Fox, scandalously bad. Doesn't matter her occupation, sinner or saint. Still confused about the concept of "consent", aren't you, 555 con·sent kənˈsent/ noun 1. permission for something to happen or agreement to do something. "no change may be made without the consent of all the partners" synonyms: agreement, assent, acceptance, approval,approbation; More verb 1. give permission for something to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 11 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said: Doesn't matter her occupation, sinner or saint. Still confused about the concept of "consent", aren't you, 555 con·sent kənˈsent/ noun 1. permission for something to happen or agreement to do something. "no change may be made without the consent of all the partners" synonyms: agreement, assent, acceptance, approval,approbation; More verb 1. give permission for something to happen. In this case it's not so much a question of consent as one of credibility. It seems the allegation is that she went to his apartment, was offered $10,000 for services ( and a ride home in his personal jet). She declined and left. Somehow it doesn't have a ring of truth and in any case would it have been newsworthy even if true? Clearly not , but CNN seems to think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 What? He didn't take her furniture shopping? Face it trumpists your hero is a laughingstock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 He just keeps digging doesn't he? Does he have advisors? If so are they on Hillary's payroll? If not then they should be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 9 hours ago, LannaGuy said: if he's innocent of course he should sue! but it will all be too late as the HUGE establishment machine has ensured a crushing defeat and a really pissed off 35/40% who support him Typical Trumpism. Can't stomach the notion that a majority of voters have voted against him - so, are squirming around looking for excuses. McCain got beaten 8 yrs ago and Romney was beaten 4 yrs ago. Republicans found ways to accept it. Will this time be different? Will Trumpsters grab their guns and amp their self-imposed anger & sicko-rightousness to dangerous levels? We'll know soon. 9 hours ago, Strange said: Well yeah he should sue. The hell is wrong what that? Also: "Adult Film Actress" PORNSTAR Yep.... Classy.... Character and integrity level over 10,000. Must be true. Maybe you've never watched porn. Here's a little inside info: porn stars are not necessarily perverts or hopeless sex addicts. They're mostly decent people, not a whole lot different than the people who fry your donuts or pump gas in your car. Trump, like most of his intelligence-challenged fans, thinks because a young woman performs sex in front of a camera, that she's a slut and will therefore be smitten by a rich overweight man who is 45 years older. Porn stars are performers. An actor might play a devil in a movie. Does that mean he's the devil in real life? 9 hours ago, Strange said: Or, its pretty clear he's pissed for being slandered and defamed and rightly so should go after anyone that does this. You can think he's being slandered and defamed, but most observers can tell he's at least as perverted and criminal as he's accused of being. Trump himself boasted about the things he's being accused of doing. In many American cities, men get busted for propositioning women for sex. If it goes to court, and it's proven that's what he in fact did, he should be given the same penalty as a man who is not as rich and famous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, boomerangutang said: Will Trumpsters grab their guns and amp their self-imposed anger & sicko-rightousness to dangerous levels? We'll know soon. Dumb extremist post 2 minutes ago, boomerangutang said: Maybe you've never watched porn. Watch it all the time. 5 minutes ago, boomerangutang said: Trump, like most of his intelligence-challenged fans, thinks because a young woman performs sex in front of a camera, that she's a slut and will therefore be smitten by a rich overweight man who is 45 years older. Slut? No. Opposite of a slut. A whore. Whore does it for money. I don't care, I watch porn, but they are hardly classy examples of integrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Baerboxer asks: "The difference seems to be the time lapse. Why have so many waited for so long and then suddenly decide to come out now?" Boomer responds: Anytime would be a bad time from Trump's perspective. Did you watch the press statement with her lawyer by her side? I did. The victim is completely believable. Plus, SHE DID mention the attack just after it happened, to her friends. She came out now because A. Trump recently said "Nobody is more respectful of women", and B. It's important for American voters to know about the candidates' respective characters. Think back, if you can, to the pandemonium by Republicans, when they were pursuing Bill Clinton for a few minutes of consensual sex. Republicans were salivating all over their shirts. They were like ravenous coyotes who have a chunk of lamb hanging over their heads. Now, the same Republicans are taking the opposite position. For Bill, there was one indiscretion. For Trump there are a dozen swirling around. Republicans are looking like hypocritical ding dongs who approve perverse and criminal behavior. They're hemmorheging credence, and deserve every drop they're losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 12 minutes ago, Strange said: Dumb extremist post Watch it all the time. Slut? No. Opposite of a slut. A whore. Whore does it for money. I don't care, I watch porn, but they are hardly classy examples of integrity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Drake#Charity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Drake#Sex_educator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 1 minute ago, boomerangutang said: Baerboxer asks: "The difference seems to be the time lapse. Why have so many waited for so long and then suddenly decide to come out now?" Boomer responds: Anytime would be a bad time from Trump's perspective. Did you watch the press statement with her lawyer by her side? I did. The victim is completely believable. Plus, SHE DID mention the attack just after it happened, to her friends. She came out now because A. Trump recently said "Nobody is more respectful of women", and B. It's important for American voters to know about the candidates' respective characters. Think back, if you can, to the pandemonium by Republicans, when they were pursuing Bill Clinton for a few minutes of consensual sex. Republicans were salivating all over their shirts. They were like ravenous coyotes who have a chunk of lamb hanging over their heads. Now, the same Republicans are taking the opposite position. For Bill, there was one indiscretion. For Trump there are a dozen swirling around. Republicans are looking like hypocritical ding dongs who approve perverse and criminal behavior. They're hemmorheging credence, and deserve every drop they're losing. Really? One was a porn star and accepted an invitation to an apartment but declined an offer of paid sex; the other was an intern having sexual relations with The President, 30 years her senior, in a closet off the Oval Office. So one is an outrage, the other a mere "indiscretion"? ( I'm not particularly fussed by either). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 if all these women were molested why did they wait for trump to run before coming forward? dodgey s#it. adult victims should have one year to come forward when there is a chance of the truth coming out or not come forward at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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