webfact Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 ‘2017 election, maybe no new govt’ By The Nation Wissanu BANGKOK: -- THE NEXT general election will definitely take place next year but a new government may not be formed by the end of the year, Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-ngam said yesterday. He said Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha had repeatedly maintained over the past year that the next election would be held in 2017, in line with the post-coup road map for a return to democracy. However, Wissanu said “unforeseeable factors” could make it unlikely for a new administration to be formed within 2017, adding that it would take about two months for official election results to be announced after the vote. Under the new electoral system, a single ballot will be used for both constituency and party-list MPs, which would be unprecedented in Thailand. Full story: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/politics/30300702 -- © Copyright The Nation 2016-11-24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 2 months to change count the vote. We know that already. Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I'm sure the ' unforeseeable factors ' are already in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 The 'unforeseeable' is VERY foreseeable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) You cannot make this stuff up. 55555 Unforeseen factors, thanks for the laugh ! I have to hand it to the Junta, the lies are quite a bit more laughable than those of any previous administration in say the last decade :) edit: "adding that it would take about two months for official election results to be announced after the vote. Under the new electoral system, a single ballot will be used for both constituency and party-list MPs, which would be unprecedented in Thailand. " 5555555555 I mean, maybe just maybe it is already clear that the system isn't designed properly as two months counting of votes would also be unprecedented for Thailand. Is Prayuth the only one counting all the votes or something :) "Due to the new voting and vote-count systems, the political party with the most votes will not be guaranteed to form the government. The one that fails to get the most votes may succeed" This was always the case, but surely the one with the most votes (or let's just say the most Seats in Parliament) would normally be allowed to start negotiations to form a government right ? Edited November 23, 2016 by sjaak327 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieinthailand Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 "Due to the new voting and vote-count systems, the political party with the most votes will not be garanteed to form the government. The one that fails to get the most votes may succeed," The deputy premier said. Ok so am I missing somthing here? A party that dosn't have enough votes can succeed, What in the wide wide world of sports is going on then? Ohh Ooop's my bad, TIT... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 "Unforeseeable factors".....is that a euphemism for "we don't like the result"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) 16 minutes ago, aussieinthailand said: "Due to the new voting and vote-count systems, the political party with the most votes will not be garanteed to form the government. The one that fails to get the most votes may succeed," The deputy premier said. Ok so am I missing somthing here? A party that dosn't have enough votes can succeed, What in the wide wide world of sports is going on then? Ohh Ooop's my bad, TIT... Let's not even draw comparison with the US Electoral College system where a candidate can become President without winning the popular vote this is simply the junta saying they'll decide who the next govt is no matter what. All in the national interest naturally. Edited November 23, 2016 by NongKhaiKid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 You couldn't make thjs 5hit up, even if you tried very, very hard!Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 But...They promise to keep counting till result is accurate acceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 What makes the government new , with half nominated by the old boys club and the Prime Minister a puppet of the Hi- So, one can only imagine how much power the people's representatives will have , with a Junta running the show it will be the same as the 1980's with improved spying technology, Thailand has already become a police state , a new government indeed....................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 An off topic post about the US election results has been removed. Please leave US politics out of this debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcsw53 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Once again Thailand is aiming to be #1 in the world. This time it is setting a world record for the length of time to count votes. Laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwhisper Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 To make things easier on the voters, they could design a ballot with just one party junta name on it. Next to it there will be two boxes, either of which a voter must tick in order to make the ballot valid. The first box would read "yes", the other one, well, "yes" too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradoc1972 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 2 hours ago, aussieinthailand said: "Due to the new voting and vote-count systems, the political party with the most votes will not be garanteed to form the government. The one that fails to get the most votes may succeed," The deputy premier said. Ok so am I missing somthing here? A party that dosn't have enough votes can succeed, What in the wide wide world of sports is going on then? Ohh Ooop's my bad, TIT... I remember reading some months or eben a year ago they had considered introducing the German electoral system of "personalized proportional voting" un the new constitution. Did they? Maybe that is what he is referring to with all the additional direct mandates that would incur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharecropper Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 42 minutes ago, dcsw53 said: Once again Thailand is aiming to be #1 in the world. This time it is setting a world record for the length of time to count votes. Laughable. But remember how astonishingly fast they counted them in the crooked Constitution vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo2014 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 To be honest Im not looking forward to it. Streets lined with the hastily erected billboards of the leering faces of shady thai politicians (each only thinking of how to line his or her pockets). Things have been quiet under this government for all its faults. The beaches are starting to get cleaned up. There is a certain degree of order. I wouldn't really want a return to the heyday of 2012 or the gun toting years of 2001 to 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharecropper Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, Jimbo2014 said: To be honest Im not looking forward to it. Streets lined with the hastily erected billboards of the leering faces of shady thai politicians (each only thinking of how to line his or her pockets). Things have been quiet under this government for all its faults. The beaches are starting to get cleaned up. There is a certain degree of order. I wouldn't really want a return to the heyday of 2012 or the gun toting years of 2001 to 2006. I wouldn't really want a return to... the gun toting years of 2001 to 2006. Er, you do realise who's invaded Thailand and how it's being run right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 32 minutes ago, sharecropper said: But remember how astonishingly fast they counted them in the crooked Constitution vote? I think the ' counting ' started before the polls were even open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Well I have to say that was a surprise. Not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 It's probably down to those new fangled vote counting machines that were made from left over bomb detection equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanBBK Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Could somebody please enlighten me as to how voting will be done? how will the parlament seats be filled? is the PM still elected by parlament? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveat Emptor Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 The more they try to be clever the more transparent they become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 8 minutes ago, StefanBBK said: Could somebody please enlighten me as to how voting will be done? how will the parlament seats be filled? is the PM still elected by parlament? They will make it up, as they go along... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 “Due to the new voting and vote-count systems, the political party with the most votes will not be guaranteed to form the government. The one that fails to get the most votes may succeed,” It's almost as if some sort of entity is setting itself up as an absolutist ruler, that merely chooses a chamber of "advisers" according to it's own whim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Misterwhisper said: To make things easier on the voters, they could design a ballot with just one party junta name on it. Next to it there will be two boxes, either of which a voter must tick in order to make the ballot valid. The first box would read "yes", the other one, well, "yes" too. That already basically happened over the 'Constitution' - the Thais were allowed either to vote for a continuation of military rule, or a continuation of military rule! Edited November 24, 2016 by Eligius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 The concept is surely to make the system so complicated that the majority of the populace hasn't a clue who or what they are voting for and will have forgotten anyway by the time the result is announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcomer71 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Nothing surprises me anymore in this country, but 2 months to count votes I guess is a new World Record... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 only word that comes to mind is facade. 1 : the front of a building; also : any face of a building given special architectural treatment <a museum's east facade>. 2 : a false, superficial, or artificial ... i will be surprised there will be elections next year, but even if there are it wont change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 1 hour ago, StefanBBK said: Could somebody please enlighten me as to how voting will be done? how will the parlament seats be filled? is the PM still elected by parlament? Think of logical answers, and reverse them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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