HM the King grants sweeping Royal pardon

[Moonmoon]

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[optad]

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Edited December 12, 2016 by optad

[autoc]

LONG LIVE THE KING !

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4 hours ago, the donger said:

This is very good news and will help a lot of people who really need it. It is horrible the amount of first timers, old people, and other vulnerable groups in prison with basically no medical services, unsanitary conditions, and definitely no rehabilitation services, for decades of their lives. 

 

I know a Thai from samui, inside for three years for stealing a motorbike. He hurt his foot when he crashed it - never got treated right. Now he can't walk well. 

 

The King's decision will improve the lives of a lot of people.

 

 

3 years for motorbike first offense ? Seems way too much, are you sure ?

 

 

[greenchair]

14 hours ago, andersonat said:

 

 

Article 112 of Thailand's Criminal Code states that anyone who defames, insults or threatens the King, the Queen, the Heir-Apparent or the Regent will be punished with up to 15 years in prison.   

 

In the Friendly Reminder, the Admin has expanded this to refer to "any one member of the Thai royal family".

 

 

No to far in the distant past a man was imprisoned by 112 because he made a joke about the royal dog. 

The lawyer said exactly what you have said, but it didn't wash with the judge. Nowadays, I think, the law includes every member of the royal family, cousins, aunts, uncles and pets. 

[Stargeezr]

A pardon or less of a sentence, will be appreciated by a lot of the people involved.

  Unless any of you have been in or visited a prison in Thailand, you should

feel very lucky.  It is not a place where any Farang  wants to spend any time

in. If you do not believe me, then do a deal in front of a Tourist police, and

have him or her escort you to the local lockup.  Thailand is not the only

country to do this practise, and I am one who appreciates that it does

happen at all.

Geezer

[kannot]

6 hours ago, the donger said:

This is very good news and will help a lot of people who really need it. It is horrible the amount of first timers, old people, and other vulnerable groups in prison with basically no medical services, unsanitary conditions, and definitely no rehabilitation services, for decades of their lives. 

 

I know a Thai from samui, inside for three years for stealing a motorbike. He hurt his foot when he crashed it - never got treated right. Now he can't walk well. 

 

The King's decision will improve the lives of a lot of people.

Heres  an idea for your "Thai".................DONT STEAL OTHER PEOPLES  PROPERTY............. tell him this way he wont have a mangled  foot and spend 3  years in jail, its  pretty  simple  really

[NongKhaiKid]

I suppose we can rest assured that every pardon is in accordance with the laid down criteria and there's absolutely no other considerations or outside influences at work ?

Why is this being used in praise of the new king as royal pardons are a regular feature no matter who is on the throne ?

Edited December 12, 2016 by NongKhaiKid

[DM07]

 
The statute of limitations put on Thaksin was long, he has to wait until 2028, but he did once buy a certain someone a really nice car, we shall see how things pan out.
 
 

You guys....Thaksin is not the only Thai "in exile"!


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[al007]

2 hours ago, DM07 said:

You guys....Thaksin is not the only Thai "in exile"!


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Anyone have a list it would be rather interesting

[gk10002000]

I was surprised to see them refer to him as the King.  I thought the royal succession ceremony was postponed or delayed?  Did it occur?

[DLang]

On 12/12/2016 at 8:14 AM, webfact said:

Prisoners who are totally blind; without both legs or hands and certified as being disabled by two doctors; who are lepers or who are suffering from cancer, AIDS, mental problem or serious kidney problem; first-time female prisoners who have served at least one-thirds of their prison terms will be set free under the Royal decree.

 

Will this include the Iranian terrorist that blew off both of his own legs while trying to grenade a Thai copper?

[DLang]

21 minutes ago, gk10002000 said:

I was surprised to see them refer to him as the King.  I thought the royal succession ceremony was postponed or delayed?  Did it occur?

 

Yes.

[smutcakes]

Is Sondhi on the list? or is he not actually in prison.

[Changwatchap]

6 hours ago, autoc said:

 

 

3 years for motorbike first offense ? Seems way too much, are you sure ?

 

 

Yeah sure. Theft at night: punishable by 1-7 years in prison according to the criminal code.

 

He was originally born in India so maybe that's why the judge was hard on him.  Now he will have finished a year so I imagnie he will be in the pardon. 

Edited December 13, 2016 by Changwatchap

[ratcatcher]

29 minutes ago, DLang said:

 

Yes.

http://www.chinadailyasia.com/asia/2016-11/30/content_15534515.html

[Acharn]

13 hours ago, Shawn0000 said:

 

Sorry, what do you mean by "living like a Thai", swanning around sky bars, feasting on lobster and fine wines? 

 

 

Well, no, I was thinking more in terms of living in a wooden shack with a tin roof, no electricity, getting your water from a nearby pond shared with the neighbor's buffaloes, and gathering bamboo shoots and mushrooms to supplement your meals. We were living in the boonies in Nakhorn Ratchasima province about 65 km from Khorat at the time.

[Shawn0000]

1 hour ago, Acharn said:

 

Well, no, I was thinking more in terms of living in a wooden shack with a tin roof, no electricity, getting your water from a nearby pond shared with the neighbor's buffaloes, and gathering bamboo shoots and mushrooms to supplement your meals. We were living in the boonies in Nakhorn Ratchasima province about 65 km from Khorat at the time.

 

But why did you refer to your clearly very poor family as "living like a Thai", that is just as disrespectful as my description would be.

[Chip Allen]

I'm curious to know if those charged with LM are among those being released. No specifics were given on this.

[William C F Pierce]

21 hours ago, kannot said:

A  Sandie  Shaw  moment

Which Sandie Shaw song are you refering to"? 2 of them could have you prosecuted under the law of "Les majeste".

[halloween]

They seem much more justifiable than a departing US president pardoning his cronies.

[mtls2005]

Dr. Dismember (Wisut Boonkasemsanti) received quite a few annual Royal pardons in the form of a sentence reductions, ultimately serving 10 1/2 years for murdering his wife, cutting up her body and flushing it down the toilet at a Chulalongkorn University dormitory and at Sofitel Centara Hotel in Lat Phrao on February 20, 2001. He nearly got away with this premeditated, brutal murder as the police had not been able to make any progress. The victim's father persevered. 

 

In the past, both the King and Queen issued pardons on/around their respective birthdays, with similar guidelines, so this seems like a continuation of this activity.

 

Hopefully there are support organizations with programs in place to reduce recidivism.

[The manic]

Over 70 % are in for so called drug offenses - usually vulnerable women and poor people. The legal interdiction of the police and penal system does more harm to families, communities, and individuals than the drugs them selves-in all nations. The USA- Europe- The Arab world all use drug laws to fuel oppression, finance mafia and empower inefficient police. Truly the war on drugs is a war on the people-in all nations.

[Chip Allen]

1 hour ago, The manic said:

Over 70 % are in for so called drug offenses - usually vulnerable women and poor people. The legal interdiction of the police and penal system does more harm to families, communities, and individuals than the drugs them selves-in all nations. The USA- Europe- The Arab world all use drug laws to fuel oppression, finance mafia and empower inefficient police. Truly the war on drugs is a war on the people-in all nations.

The most rational post that I have seen on this subject. Thailand is following the USA around in its hysterical war against those who seek relief from their crummy lives. Drugs serve a purpose.

[todlad]

never understood the concept of mass royal pardons (in general, not just thailand), it undermines the justice system surely. i realize the prisons are overloaded and its a good way to get the support of criminals and make them realize whose the boss, but seems very third world to me

Very third world? I wonder who's going to be on Obama's list, then? You know, Obama, leader of the free third world.

If his list is already out, I don't know that!


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[mania]

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Prisoners who  who are suffering  mental problem will be set free under the Royal decree.

 

Scuze me your honor but wouldn't that pretty much cover all of them?

 

Ok then

[BSJ]

Irrespective of what country you live in, crimes committed against the citizen, or the state, should see sentences that are harsh and long.

 

By giving reduced sentences under any name the system is not for-filling it's obligation to punish wrong doers therefore the citizenry and/or the state are being demeaned.

[Acharn]

On 12/13/2016 at 0:32 PM, Shawn0000 said:

 

But why did you refer to your clearly very poor family as "living like a Thai", that is just as disrespectful as my description would be.

 

"Clearly very poor?" I didn't think so. That was the way all our neighbors lived. I knew I could have lived more comfortably in a different part of the country, but my wife wanted to live near her brother. We did have neighbors in a nearby village of about twenty families that I saw as being very poor. We didn't live in town. At the time it was a part of Pak Thong Chai district in Nakhon Ratchasima province, but has since been made into an amphoe of its own, Wang Nam Khiaw. Things got much more prosperous after Thaksin was prime minister, but it sounds like you live among either rich Thais or rich, dissolute farang. Are you aware that most Thais live on less than ฿20,000 a month? Something over 60% still make their living directly from the land.

Edited December 15, 2016 by Acharn

[Shawn0000]

5 minutes ago, Acharn said:

 

"Clearly very poor?" I didn't think so. That was the way all our neighbors lived. I knew I could have lived more comfortably in a different part of the country, but my wife wanted to live near her brother. We did have neighbors in a nearby village of about twenty families that I saw as being very poor. We didn't live in town. At the time it was a part of Pak Thong Chai district in Nakhon Ratchasima province, but has since been made into an amphoe of its own, Wang Nam Khiaw. Things got much more prosperous after Thaksin was prime minister, but it sounds like you live among either rich Thais or rich, dissolute farang. Are you aware that most Thais live on less than ฿20,000 a month? Something over 60% still make their living directly from the land.

 

Getting your water from a buffalo wallow classifies as very poor in EVERYBODY'S book, get real!!!

[Theoutsider]

On 12/12/2016 at 0:23 PM, Briggsy said:

Your post seems to display some gross misunderstandings about these annual Royal Pardons.

 

You do not seem to understand that it is a lengthy bureaucratic process with several stages lasting months or years involving different strands of the civil service and government with committees considering both the process and individual appeals for clemency.

 

Your post seems to reflect an erroneous belief that the Palace go through a list of prisoners with a pencil the night before putting ticks and crosses by names of prisoners. Your post also seems to suggest this is an unusual occurrence, a strategy, a power play, when it is, of course, an annual event.

 

Your post then goes on to create a power battle between the Palace and the current military administration! Do you have any evidence for these claims?

 

I am sorry to ask but did you just get off the boat?

I heard Chuwit has been released or is going to be