rooster59 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 ‘Army won’t interfere with next poll result’ By THE SUNDAY NATION General Chalermchai Sittisart THE ARMY CHIEF has vowed not to interfere with the results of the next general election even if the previous ruling political party wins in the national vote. “Although the election in 2017 will result in the same old political party forming the government, all sides will have to accept the election results and the rules. The military will not overturn the election,” General Chalermchai Sittisart, who has served as Royal Thai Army commander-in-chief since October 1, said. Chalermchai seemed to be referring to Pheu Thai Party although he did not mention it by name. Full story: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30303253 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-01-01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z42 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Sounds pretty disingenuous to me, and furthermore a pretty damning indictment of the army in general as it matter of factly says that their interference is almost a given. This is a new year's resolution / hope that will be sure to be shattered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymonddiaz Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 the next general election is not democratic. Military are all over the place. They will dictate their will to civilians for the new 5 years at least. Check the new adopted constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 because they will have no power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I'm not sure this guy's got the right year, under the new election rules it wouldn't matter if the PTP got all the votes that the public are allowed to vote on, the balance held by the military and their cronies would outweigh any advantage, also the election of the Prime Minister is by the house not the people, the whole election process is a shame and not democratic, however, anybody got any other idea's how to avoid the B/S that went on before the Junta, because no matter how you look at it unless you want that unstable repeat in the name of democracy , the options are few....................................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffaarraanngg Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, chainarong said: I'm not sure this guy's got the right year, under the new election rules it wouldn't matter if the PTP got all the votes that the public are allowed to vote on, the balance held by the military and their cronies would outweigh any advantage, also the election of the Prime Minister is by the house not the people, the whole election process is a shame and not democratic, however, anybody got any other idea's how to avoid the B/S that went on before the Junta, because no matter how you look at it unless you want that unstable repeat in the name of democracy , the options are few....................................................... Well this may sound off the wall, but they could have free elections where all parties come up with policies to get the most votes. And then in 4-5 years time they can repeat this ... by which time the Yellow shirt affiliated parties may come to the outstanding conclusion that screwing over the masses of poor Thais for their own self gain is not the best policy to get elected and realise they have to come up with policies that they will see as beneficial and these people will vote for them. I know its a right out there, but you never know it might just catch on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 That's potty we may get Thaksins Tyrany in a new bottle again Let the Army carry on I say till normal Thais can form a new one that's Thai and not Chinese Immigrant ownedSent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Graham Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 The headline is incorrect. It should read "The army won't need to interfere with next poll result." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 yeah...right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 3 hours ago, rooster59 said: Army won’t interfere with next poll result’ Yeah, because there won't be any anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Its not like we have done it 19 times before. This time its different. And still some will believe and support them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 i promise to stop chasing women. that ain't going to happen either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldroj Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 "...thanks to the new rules and regulations set by the post-coup government, the army chief was convinced there would be no more coups in the future..." Guys, it's January 1, NOT April 1 !!! Sounds like the military will have things covered for a long, long time to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 "Thai politics as a whole is not bad. If politics were that bad, our country would not have progressed to this point today." <deleted> Thailand is under the control of an unelected Military Junta and this guy comes out with garbage like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Because the have fixed things so that it will be a government in name only, unable to enact any policy without the direct approval of the "masters". Which means that they have will finally put an end to this Democracy nonsense. And now the ship of state can sail serenely into the happy, peaceful, "harmonious" future that will be the inevitable result of their wise planning. The biggest lie they have told is the one that they have told themselves. But that is how it is in tragedies. Personal, communal or state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLouisBlues Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 My favorite timeline over the years has been the almost universal support by TV members for the Yellow Shirt position to a gradual realization by some that they were conned. I particularly liked all the posts around the time there were a number of senior police arrested for corruption about how the military were at last cleaning up corruption in Thailand having got rid of the evil, corrupt, Shinawatras... and then it emerged that they were all members of a certain family, and corruption was the pretext As the British politician Walpole is reported to have said "Life is a tragedy to those who feel, a comedy to those who think". A good motto for living in Thailand - be a thinker, not a feeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 3 hours ago, chainarong said: I'm not sure this guy's got the right year, under the new election rules it wouldn't matter if the PTP got all the votes that the public are allowed to vote on, the balance held by the military and their cronies would outweigh any advantage, also the election of the Prime Minister is by the house not the people, the whole election process is a shame and not democratic, however, anybody got any other idea's how to avoid the B/S that went on before the Junta, because no matter how you look at it unless you want that unstable repeat in the name of democracy , the options are few....................................................... Actually when there were elections before the people still didn't elect the PM, the winning party did. It is also what is done in the UK where the winning party chooses the PM. AFAIK in the USA the party caucus choose the President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 After the abominable flip flop lying they did on the Single Gateway, at this point, whatever the military government says....expect the exact opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorro1 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 As always the rubbish translation in TV news articles means we go off on a tangent! Try plugging in any thai text into Google translate and the reverse will be true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debate101 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) Propaganda, lies, smokescreens, and threats. Pheu Thai cannot conceivably form the next government. For that to happen, non-Democrat, non-military parties would have to carry 75% of the vote. There won't be an election in 2017. If and when there is one, it will be tightly controlled to provide the "correct" result, as was done in the "referendum." He's dangling a fake carrot and wielding the stick of punishment if Yingluck's supporters take to the streets in opposition to her political persecution. They are doing everything they can to provoke unrest so they can quash it while they are at their pinnacle of power. The biggest loser in this standoff is the country, which has stalled out in almost every possible way and even begun to regress in many areas. Happy New Year, everyone! Edited January 1, 2017 by debate101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 6 hours ago, chainarong said: I'm not sure this guy's got the right year, under the new election rules it wouldn't matter if the PTP got all the votes that the public are allowed to vote on, the balance held by the military and their cronies would outweigh any advantage, also the election of the Prime Minister is by the house not the people, the whole election process is a shame and not democratic, however, anybody got any other idea's how to avoid the B/S that went on before the Junta, because no matter how you look at it unless you want that unstable repeat in the name of democracy , the options are few....................................................... Its a glass half full half empty statement. The constitution will carry the day. The junta will sit back on election day and let the voters have at it. They have a royal flush up their sleeve with the packed senate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigermoth Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 3 hours ago, billd766 said: Actually when there were elections before the people still didn't elect the PM, the winning party did. It is also what is done in the UK where the winning party chooses the PM. AFAIK in the USA the party caucus choose the President. It is also the same in Australia and New Zealand. The winning political party in the election chooses the Prime Minister who is the leader of their party. Just as a comment, The military have no place in the political system in these countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeupplease Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Chalermchai Said “Thai politics as a whole is not bad. If politics were that bad, our country would not have progressed to this point today”. Yes I and millions of other tourists agree that is why we will never visit the country, we once loved so much again. Corruption, lies and BIB now makes Thailand a no go holiday destination. 2017 WILL BE A WAKE UP CALL for many. 65 million nice people and 2 million out and out criminals mainly in BKK Big Shame as Thailand is one of the most beautiful countries in the world, why on earth do the idiots run it this way and drive people and businesses away? Power and wealth is the answer stupid people Do they not realize the world does not believe a word of their statements of the last 2+ years. Mr Chalermchai all eyes are on you now and for the next 4 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 They didn't interfere in the last elections either whilst Suthep and his thugs were stopping people going to the polls. They simply let others interfere in their behalf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucec64 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 It is also the same in Australia and New Zealand. The winning political party in the election chooses the Prime Minister who is the leader of their party. Just as a comment, The military have no place in the political system in these countries.But in Thailand the unelected senate will end up choosing the PM, not the winning party. As another poster noted, the winning party would require 75+% of the seats to put in a PM not approved by the NCPO.So in reality the military will not have to interfere. The deck is already stacked.Sent from my SM-J710F using Thaivisa Connect mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 8 hours ago, ffaarraanngg said: Well this may sound off the wall, but they could have free elections where all parties come up with policies to get the most votes. And then in 4-5 years time they can repeat this ... by which time the Yellow shirt affiliated parties may come to the outstanding conclusion that screwing over the masses of poor Thais for their own self gain is not the best policy to get elected and realise they have to come up with policies that they will see as beneficial and these people will vote for them. I know its a right out there, but you never know it might just catch on. You miss the point , that's already been tried between 2 coups , what I say is how do you get around the PTP nonsense and Suthep crap , what you don't have is quality politicians that can do the right thing , you don't have a good system of government , its all made up to suit the crowd that's now in power, and when they do have democracy it termed Thai democracy , ( Our Way) put it this way, it ain't no German, Westminster, US styled government and it ain't no brainer what would happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMuhummad Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 6 hours ago, SaintLouisBlues said: My favorite timeline over the years has been the almost universal support by TV members for the Yellow Shirt position to a gradual realization by some that they were conned. I particularly liked all the posts around the time there were a number of senior police arrested for corruption about how the military were at last cleaning up corruption in Thailand having got rid of the evil, corrupt, Shinawatras... and then it emerged that they were all members of a certain family, and corruption was the pretext As the British politician Walpole is reported to have said "Life is a tragedy to those who feel, a comedy to those who think". A good motto for living in Thailand - be a thinker, not a feeler Shinawatra wasn't so bad after all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 3 hours ago, tigermoth said: It is also the same in Australia and New Zealand. The winning political party in the election chooses the Prime Minister who is the leader of their party. Just as a comment, The military have no place in the political system in these countries. Yes true but that leader of the party chosen by his peers still has to stand for election in his area. John Howard was elected the leader of the Liberal party to be P.M but the electorate (citizens) voted against him. His political career vanished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 2 hours ago, wakeupplease said: Chalermchai Said “Thai politics as a whole is not bad. If politics were that bad, our country would not have progressed to this point today”. Yes I and millions of other tourists agree that is why we will never visit the country, we once loved so much again. Corruption, lies and BIB now makes Thailand a no go holiday destination. 2017 WILL BE A WAKE UP CALL for many. 65 million nice people and 2 million out and out criminals mainly in BKK Big Shame as Thailand is one of the most beautiful countries in the world, why on earth do the idiots run it this way and drive people and businesses away? Power and wealth is the answer stupid people Do they not realize the world does not believe a word of their statements of the last 2+ years. Mr Chalermchai all eyes are on you now and for the next 4 years However Bangkok, Pattaya and Phuket are not the only places in Thailand, just the same as London, Edinburgh, Cardiff and Belfast are not the only places in the UK. There are many hundreds of smaller cities, towns and villages in Thailand with so much to see but if you are only interested in the beach or night party activities you will never find them. Outside of the big tourist areas is a far nicer Thailand full of good Thais who are not out to rip anybody off and who do have genuine smiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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