SaintLouisBlues Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, debate101 said: Cheating, lying, stealing, abusing, killing--all forgivable if you are loyal to the right people. It's what the system is based on. There's simply no acknowledgment of the concept of public good nor recognition that individuals who are not already in a social relationship with you have any rights whatsoever. This is why people don't pull over for ambulances or intervene in public instances of abuse. The leaders embody and define the public good, and you follow their orders. Luckily for you, your bad behavior gets excused if you're obsequious enough to the phu yai of your organization. That and the belief in karma - you reap in this life what you have sown in past lives. That's why the peasants cannot be entrusted with voting because they're peasants, therefore they must not have been sufficiently virtuous in their past lives. That's the concept that lies behind the Yellow Shirt/junta narrative of leaving government to "virtuous" people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Positions are bought in many walks of life here particularly the police and the military and govt related jobs. Nothing new in this " disclosure". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 The RTP's reputation must be one of the lowest in the world. This story merely confirms the basic prerequisites to become a cop in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatproblem Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Isn't that what they are known for ,lying and cheating people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyphodb Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 hour ago, debate101 said: Cheating, lying, stealing, abusing, killing--all forgivable if you are loyal to the right people. It's what the system is based on. There's simply no acknowledgment of the concept of public good nor recognition that individuals who are not already in a social relationship with you have any rights whatsoever. This is why people don't pull over for ambulances or intervene in public instances of abuse. The leaders embody and define the public good, and you follow their orders. Luckily for you, your bad behavior gets excused if you're obsequious enough to the phu yai of your organization. That and the belief in karma - you reap in this life what you have sown in past lives. That's why the peasants cannot be entrusted with voting because they're peasants, therefore they must not have been sufficiently virtuous in their past lives. That's the concept that lies behind the Yellow Shirt/junta narrative of leaving government to "virtuous" people These two quotes hit the nail on the head, & until these cultural attitudes change nothing will ever change here... Don't hold your breath waiting..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindMagician Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Thailand ... where corruption is a relative term, and zero tolerance is unheard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaRacer Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Same exact thing happened about 4 years ago. They even had some electronic devices strapped to their legs that would vibrate and give them the answers to the tests. They paid 100k each for that. My friend who took the test without cheating got quite a good score, but after they cancelled it, he decided not to become a policeman. Thanks god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorG Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 As these were for senior positions, they would have been well versed in cheating and bribery to advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 2 hours ago, selftaopath said: " positons of integrity" lol ahhhhhhhhh thanks for the chuckle.... Thailand and integrity are like oil and water.... anywhere and everywhere. If you read a little deeper, you would know why these positions no longer have integrity... that's the sarcasm and pointing out the cause and effect over the many decades... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Shocking ! You mean there is an actual exam in place ? There is no crony-ism ? It is hard to believe somebody even bothered with an exam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, fruitman said: Yup, so it's easyier to just pay 500 baht for the driverslicense....Are there even Thai who failed for their driverslicense? My grandma failed all the time, after 6 attempts she gave up so she has never driven a car untill she died. John Lennon failed about six times and hated driving , however in West Oz it will take U 5 years to get a full unrestricted drivers licence, these day's. Edited January 7, 2017 by chainarong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLouisBlues Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 minute ago, yellowboat said: Shocking ! You mean there is an actual exam in place ? There is no crony-ism ? It is hard to believe somebody even bothered with an exam. I heard of a spoof First World police academy exam once that had the question "The police and organised crime - a demarcation dispute?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldave1951 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 12 hours ago, fruitman said: Yup, so it's easyier to just pay 500 baht for the driverslicense....Are there even Thai who failed for their driverslicense? My grandma failed all the time, after 6 attempts she gave up so she has never driven a car untill she died. you mean she's driving NOW ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Not surprising, when they brought in, that all politicians had to have a degree , should have seen all the cheating then............................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Is there anymore things that are not involved in cheating in this country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 10 hours ago, richfarang said: Sick to my stomach. If news like this makes you sick to your stomach, you really are in the wrong place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 They are not worthy of being named the Royal Thai Police! The inclusion of the word Royal is an insult to the monarchy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunano Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said: Cheating is endemic across all sections of Thai society. The worse thing is getting caught not the act of cheating. Sad really but this isn't new news to anyone who has been here long enough, knows it is rife and is widespread. not only to the police but the military, universities schools and other sections of business such as those working at Thai airways for promotion etc. Spot on! This triggers the question; what future does such a society/country have?!? I don't expect it to be a very bright one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABloke Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I'm glad to know that cheating "a little" is not as bad as cheating "completely". <deleted> morons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 13 hours ago, oilinki said: This is great news if they are finally starting to purify the police force and starting from the top. They are not so don't expect any changes.. If you read this article above you will see that the police are only reacting to a repoty they found in sanook.com. "No details were given on the percentages of these in the sanook.com report but 418 individuals are believed to be facing punishment either internally or according to the criminal law. " It is about the same you see all the time. The police react to something shared in the news or online. I surely do hope they will take measures to stop cheating in all testing done in all facets or professions. But, it costs a lot and many would fail and lose face. They should apply this test to every single cop in and out of uniform to see just who knows and does their job correctly. Get rid of the ones who can't pass even if they have been cops for years. Or at the least, send them back to school until they are able to pass the police exam. Who knows how long cheating may have been going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 13 hours ago, oilinki said: This is great news if they are finally starting to purify the police force and starting from the top. I don't think they are suggesting reform.... " Sanit revealed after the meeting that the general consensus was that all the exams should be declared null and void. " they are just suggesting not to bother with the exams because they are too much trouble.... TiT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamNoone88 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I was always under the false assumption that cheating was a prerequisite to join the force and it showed initiative? I now stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I wonder if any of the candidates considered strategy I used when in University: KNOW the subject matter being tested. No cheating required and might even help if ever need to put concepts into action (well, criminal justice in Thailand another matter....). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psimbo Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 If someone is prepared to stump up 500k to pass the entrance exam it just shows how much cash there is to be made as a cop here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 11 hours ago, surangw said: whats the going rate these days to pay to get on the police force ? There you go; why an exam at all ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 14 hours ago, snoop1130 said: The committee split the group of individuals who took and set the exams into three groups - those who cheated completely, those who cheated a little and those who answered honestly. AKA those who refused to pay, those who paid <2000 and lastly those who paid >2000b :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIWIBATCH Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 6 hours ago, waldroj said: "...Some 418 individuals were indicated as cheats..." !!! How many sat the exam ??? 419 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 11 minutes ago, IAMHERE said: There you go; why an exam at all ? They have to create a charade and dress a reason for the 'fees'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHARX Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 It makes me wonder how they found out the one's that answered honestly? Or did they think that only the ones who fail didn't cheat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crickets Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 its probably always been the norm but now something is being done about it by this government. well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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