craigt3365 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 17 minutes ago, Boon Mee said: "Likely" being the operative word in that 'news' item. NBC not being biased at all or anything... Lots of articles out there about this. Same BS he tweeted about Ford, and it turned out to be wrong. He'll take credit for anything. NBC may be biased, all media outlets are, but it's not fake news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Mee Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 26 minutes ago, craigt3365 said: Lots of articles out there about this. Same BS he tweeted about Ford, and it turned out to be wrong. He'll take credit for anything. NBC may be biased, all media outlets are, but it's not fake news. I didn't say it was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Boon Mee said: Some folks just can't recognize facts when they appear before their eyes! ติดตาม And people lambasted Obama for the GM bailout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 On 1/18/2017 at 10:03 AM, optad said: These guys weren't invited. A show that portrayed a president with dignity, elegance, real intelligence, vision, leadership, savvy, a good heart, and a team of people who really cared about their country, and the future. Imagine that? Will we ever see anything like that in our lifetime? I rather doubt it. I cannot remember the last administration with those characteristics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike324 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) 18 hours ago, Boon Mee said: Well, he's already off to a great start not even being in office yet - bringing scores of jobs back to America Trump and his supporters has been giving him credit for jobs that were already planned to be brought back to the USA well before the election. Nonetheless, the only jobs that he saved was the carrier deal. Even with that deal, he exaggerated the number of jobs saved. The rest of the jobs from the automotive industry were planned years ahead. He is already of to a great start at being dishonest to say the least. But I do give him credit for at least trying to bring back jobs, at the same time for some industries it's simply not possible. Edited January 19, 2017 by mike324 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 21 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: A show that portrayed a president with dignity, elegance, real intelligence, vision, leadership, savvy, a good heart, and a team of people who really cared about their country, and the future. Imagine that? Will we ever see anything like that in our lifetime? I rather doubt it. I cannot remember the last administration with those characteristics. He's saying goodbye at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Trump said yesterday "I wish those 60 democrats would give me the tickets back"........he has people crying out for them. Regardless, afterwards arise PRESIDENT DONALD J TRUMP 45th president of the United States of America.......start making it great again and please do a better job than ....errr.....that other guy, I've forgotten his name already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 14 minutes ago, stevenl said: 37 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: A show that portrayed a president with dignity, elegance, real intelligence, vision, leadership, savvy, a good heart, and a team of people who really cared about their country, and the future. Imagine that? Will we ever see anything like that in our lifetime? I rather doubt it. I cannot remember the last administration with those characteristics. He's saying goodbye at the moment. Like this I agree with the dignity, and elegance part. Not sure about the rest. Definitely do not agree with the leadership part, nor the savvy, vision, and the team. He surrounded himself with mediocrity, and I believe that was more or less deliberate. 14 minutes ago, stevenl said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Personally, I think Hillary might have won if Obama didn't campaign for her, a lot of people had enough of Obama and couldn't bear 4 more years even quite a lot of dems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 38 minutes ago, mike324 said: Trump and his supporters has been giving him credit for jobs that were already planned to be brought back to the USA well before the election. Nonetheless, the only jobs that he saved was the carrier deal. Even with that deal, he exaggerated the number of jobs saved. The rest of the jobs from the automotive industry were planned years ahead. He is already of to a great start at being dishonest to say the least. But I do give him credit for at least trying to bring back jobs, at the same time for some industries it's simply not possible. It is in his DNA to exaggerate, lie, deceive, and delude. He is a Ringling Brothers, Barnum and Bailey circus schuckster, of the highest order. Look at what he just pulled off? That requires tremendous skill. His ability to sell himself is second to none. He is a master Charlatan. Now, let us see if that can somehow be translated into progress for the nation, and not something that is detrimental to the entire planet. Personally, I am a small business owner, so I am hopeful his policies will translate into a stronger economy. I just did not "buy" the economic data coming out of the Obama administration. I saw a tremendous lack of confidence on the part of the average consumer, and I did not believe the unemployment numbers, nor the inflation numbers. They were entirely contrary to everything I saw on the ground, in the US, especially the CPI numbers. Prices are going up daily, and yet they manage to keep trotting out those 2-3% numbers. If only. My guess is that pretty soon, a high percentage of his supporters will start to become very disappointed, and very disenchanted. As you can tell, I do not like the man. There is very little about him I like. But, I hope I am wrong. Hillary was the alternative, and as many know, that was not much of an alternative! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 2 hours ago, craigt3365 said: And some still drink the kool-aid being handed out by Trump. Incredible. http://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/gm-s-1b-investment-not-driven-trump-likely-dates-back-n707661 In the political game you take all the bows you can get till your back gets sore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iReason Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Just now, Boon Mee said: Some folks just can't recognize facts when they appear before their eyes! That's true. Take the lying con-man for starters. And plenty of Trumpeteers. Truly hilarious that you post a 1:00 AM "Twitter Tweet" from the con-man as some sort of validation. Pop over to the "Woefully unfit" thread and have a look at what GM has to say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, craigt3365 said: And some still drink the kool-aid being handed out by Trump. Incredible. http://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/gm-s-1b-investment-not-driven-trump-likely-dates-back-n707661 ABC seems to be reporting the same notion as NBC, that GM had planned this long before Trump came along, and quoting company spokesman as saying so. http://abcnews.go.com/Business/general-motors-jobs-touted-trump-works-years/story?id=44831865 But there seems to be another element to this, as CNN Money, in a report filed yesterday, says that apart from the returning U.S. jobs that GM has just announced, they're at the same time going to be laying off 2,000 other U.S. workers on Inauguration Day. http://www.kxly.com/news/national-news/2000-gm-workers-to-lose-jobs-on-inauguration-day/276410766 Quote LORDSTOWN, Oh (CNNMoney) - Robert Sheridan is a 40-year-old GM worker who voted for Donald Trump. He can barely contain his excitement about Inauguration Day, even though it will be a rough day for him on a personal level. He's one of 2,000 GM factory workers losing their jobs on Friday, the same day that Trump will be sworn in as the 45th president. Sheridan -- and thousands like him -- are desperately hoping Trump will save their jobs. "Please help us in Lordstown," says Sheridan, a soft-spoken Midwesterner with three kids. "This is a great middle class job. You can't find one better around here." These are GM's first layoffs in six years. About 1,200 workers in Lordstown, Ohio (where Sheridan works) are getting the ax and another 800 in Lansing, Michigan -- both key states that led to Trump's victory. Continues.... Net result??? Meanwhile, CNNMoney has a separate report that pretty much recaps a lot of the recent interaction between Trump and the various automakers. If you read thru the details of each situation, there's not much there in reality for Trump to claim real involvement in. Quote But it's not clear how much credit Trump deserves when it comes to the recent flurry of announcements about jobs. Most of the investments announced by companies since the election were already in the works. Several automakers spelled out the plans in their contracts with the United Auto Workers, signed more than a year before Trump's win at the polls. http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/18/news/companies/trump-autos-jobs/index.html Edited January 19, 2017 by TallGuyJohninBKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 On 18 January, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Boon Mee said: We can only hope the protesters behave themselves and show respect to the incoming POTUS sadly, no chance of that happening….there will be major unrest….im predicting some sort of large scale riot. the home guard needs to be brought out….as well as plain clothes federal agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said: sadly, no chance of that happening….there will be major unrest….im predicting some sort of large scale riot. the home guard needs to be brought out….as well as plain clothes federal agents. ...and some guys in Gestapo- uniforms... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 21 hours ago, craigt3365 said: We can only hope the new POTUS behaves himself and shows respect to others. That's not a realistic hope. Quote This is the most ominous Inauguration Day in modern history You might say that since Election Day, Trump has chosen cynicism over trust, and chaos over community. Far from calming the country down, Trump has reminded everyone who opposed him on Nov. 8 of why they saw him as utterly unfit for the presidency in the first place. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-is-the-most-ominous-inauguration-day-in-modern-history/2017/01/18/5105f7ee-ddc0-11e6-918c-99ede3c8cafa_story.html?utm_term=.190b4bae1b74 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, Jingthing said: That's not a realistic hope. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-is-the-most-ominous-inauguration-day-in-modern-history/2017/01/18/5105f7ee-ddc0-11e6-918c-99ede3c8cafa_story.html?utm_term=.190b4bae1b74 An interesting article that ends with an interesting saying that I can't recall having heard before: Quote Meanwhile, Trump will have his moment, that’s for sure, but when things go wrong he will be chased from office — just like Johnson once was. The ancient Greeks knew why: A man’s character is his fate. In that case, Trump’s presidency is doomed. The sorrowful part is, as with the article's historical discussion of LBJ and the Vietnam War, it often in history seems to take years or even decades and tens/hundreds of thousands of people to die before fate catches up with such people. Many other innocents end up paying the price for the misadventures of such leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) PEE-OTUS (soon POTUS) supposedly "writing" his inauguration speech. Note the blank paper. The writing paper. The lack of computer (he doesn't use computers). Does anyone really believe this man has ever written a speech in his life or ever will? Yes, he writes tweets. That's the extent of his attention span. Con man all the way. Here he comes. Doesn't the picture kind of look like he thinks he's a Roman Emperor? The "Decline and Fall" kind ... Considering the absurdity of this clownish buffoon soon holding the most powerful office on the planet. He's a man that hasn't even applied for even one job in his entire life. Not to mention never holding any public service office. God help us. Edited January 19, 2017 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 4 hours ago, iReason said: That's true. Take the lying con-man for starters. And plenty of Trumpeteers. Truly hilarious that you post a 1:00 AM "Twitter Tweet" from the con-man as some sort of validation. Pop over to the "Woefully unfit" thread and have a look at what GM has to say... Depending on how he combs his hair he could pull the wool over his own eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 2 hours ago, JHolmesJr said: sadly, no chance of that happening….there will be major unrest….im predicting some sort of large scale riot. the home guard needs to be brought out….as well as plain clothes federal agents. I see Obamas policies being turned over very fast if that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 33 minutes ago, Jingthing said: PEE-OTUS (soon POTUS) supposedly "writing" his inauguration speech. Note the blank paper. The writing paper. The lack of computer (he doesn't use computers). Does anyone really believe this man has ever written a speech in his life or ever will? Yes, he writes tweets. That's the extent of his attention span. Con man all the way. Here he comes. Doesn't the picture kind of look like he thinks he's a Roman Emperor? The "Decline and Fall" kind ... Considering the absurdity of this clownish buffoon soon holding the most powerful office on the planet. He's a man that hasn't even applied for even one job in his entire life. Not to mention never holding any public service office. God help us. Do you remember how the little witch looked, when Trey Gowdy was making her look very stupid over Benghazi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) On 1/18/2017 at 1:23 AM, craigt3365 said: We can only hope the new POTUS behaves himself and shows respect to others. He's already saved the world from a 5x-better funded Hillary Clinton. He deserves a Nobel for that feat alone. And he can hardly be any less respectful or more arrogant than Obama has been for the last 8 years! And wingnut brownshirts don't have many lessons to teach anybody when it comes to "showing respect for others", that's for sure!! Edited January 20, 2017 by hawker9000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, hawker9000 said: He's already saved the world from a 5x-better funded Hillary Clinton. He deserves a Nobel for that feat alone. And he can hardly be any less respectful or more arrogant than Obama has been for the last 8 years! And wingnut brownshirts don't have many lessons to teach anybody when it comes to "showing respect for others", that's for sure!! I've yet to see Obama be disrespectful. Far from it. Nor arrogant. Trump wins awards for these. It's yet to be seen if Trump will be better. We can have this conversation in 4 years! LOL What's a wingnut brownshirt? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optad Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, craigt3365 said: I've yet to see Obama be disrespectful. Far from it. Nor arrogant. Trump wins awards for these. It's yet to be seen if Trump will be better. We can have this conversation in 4 years! LOL What's a wingnut brownshirt? LOL Right as always.!!! But this was a take down with style... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Anyone who doesn't think he has class is just trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) 31 minutes ago, craigt3365 said: Anyone who doesn't think he has class is just trolling. Obama is iconic of Amlerican elegance and intelligence Maybe the last POTUS of that class, with a remarkable eloquence Edited January 20, 2017 by Opl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Obama is iconic of Amlerican elegance and intelligence Maybe the last POTUS of that class, with a remarkable eloquence trump may be the last POTUS period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) 20 hours ago, uptheos said: Do you remember how the little witch looked, when Trey Gowdy was making her look very stupid over Benghazi? I like the picture of the Donald writing his acceptance speech. Must be tough to find additional phrases to go along with great again, tremendous, outstanding, I will, I leave you with the following On January 21st of 2017, the day after I take the oath of office, Americans will finally wake up in a country where the laws of the United States are enforced. We are going to be considerate and compassionate to everyone. But my greatest compassion will be for our own struggling citizens. Donald TrumpRead more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/d/donald_trump.html A new episode of the Apprentice begins. Edited January 20, 2017 by elgordo38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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