Jomsap case pickup taken away for forensic tests, new owner says

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Jomsap case pickup taken away for forensic tests, new owner says

By SIWA LOHO
THE NATION

 

Jomsap

 

INVESTIGATORS have taken away the pickup truck that former teacher Jomsap Saenmuangkhot was accused of driving in a fatal 2015 hit-and-run accident for further |forensic examination before her retrial, the |car’s current owner said yesterday.

 

Sakhon Nakhon-based Jomsap claimed to have sold her decade-old Toyota truck – licence number “Bor Khor 56 Sakhon Nakhon” – to Prapat Saenmuangkhot for Bt130,000 on the afternoon of March 11, 2005.

 

That night, cyclist Lua Phorbumrung suffered fatal injuries in a crash with the pickup in nearby Nakhon Phanom province.

 

Full story: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30305138

 

 

 

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[greenchair]

Wouldn't it be interesting if the green paint on her licence plate matched the green paint on the bicycle? ??

Such a pity her team cannot get the other green pick up to test the paint, since it was destroyed along with the original ownership papers. 

Still her team should have had her plate and the bike tested months ago . too late now. 

[Chang_paarp]

Forensic testing some years after the event? I am sure it will yield valid results.  

[newcomer71]

A state of the art forensic test that will produce the more convenient result... for the RTP obviously.

[robblok]

There are so many coincidences in this case it stinks.. sold the same day of the death of the cyclist. Lend out the same day too.. You can say the case of the RTP is weak.. but its not like her case is ironclad either. As i said before.. I would not want to bet on this one. No lawyer involved at first (if someone says I killed someone with a car I get a lawyer if I did not do it).

 

 

[sweatalot]

3 hours ago, Chang_paarp said:

Forensic testing some years after the event? I am sure it will yield valid results.  

yeah - it might be an opportunity to find the truth - or to plant wrong evidence - or just to say they found what they wanted to find ...

 

It'd s wildcart to put her down

 

... but then if an unbiased forensic expert would look into this ...

 

[ChrisY1]

Of course....paint residue...maybe some hair....this should turn out nicely for the RTP.

[smedly]

I hope they are using an independent forensic lab such as the Central Institute of Forensic Science under the justice department - the only one in Thailand that IMO can be trusted

[Reigntax]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

There are so many coincidences in this case it stinks.. sold the same day of the death of the cyclist. Lend out the same day too.. You can say the case of the RTP is weak.. but its not like her case is ironclad either. As i said before.. I would not want to bet on this one. No lawyer involved at first (if someone says I killed someone with a car I get a lawyer if I did not do it).

 

 

 

If you didnt do it, you wouldnt need a lawyer as you wouldnt even be questioned until, initial evidence proved otherwise, or, a forensic investigation provided enough evidence to suggest you did do it.

 

Remember innocent until proven guilty. The onus is on the RTP to prove the case, not the party charged to prove they. are innocent. 

 

This would appear another example of a typical RTP charlie foxtrot.

[robblok]

Just now, Reigntax said:

 

If you didnt do it, you wouldnt need a lawyer as you wouldnt even be questioned until, initial evidence proved otherwise, or, a forensic investigation provided enough evidence to suggest you did do it.

 

Remember innocent until proven guilty. The onus is on the RTP to prove the case, not the party charged to prove they. are innocent. 

 

This would appear another example of a typical RTP charlie foxtrot.

If I did not do it and I was charged of something.. the first thing I would get is a lawyer.. being innocent does not mean a thing. In many countries allover the world (Thailand included) innocent people are in jail. Using a lawyer is a good thing to make sure your rights are not stepped on. 

 

There are too many conflicting facts in her story for me to believe her 100% same for the RTP don't believe them either.. im split and would not wager it either way. 

[Reigntax]

1 minute ago, robblok said:

If I did not do it and I was charged of something.. the first thing I would get is a lawyer.. being innocent does not mean a thing. In many countries allover the world (Thailand included) innocent people are in jail. Using a lawyer is a good thing to make sure your rights are not stepped on. 

 

There are too many conflicting facts in her story for me to believe her 100% same for the RTP don't believe them either.. im split and would not wager it either way. 

 

Innocent people only end up in jail due to police incompetence, fabrication of evidence, tampering, bias or a lazy attempt to close off a case.

 

If you didnt commit a crime, then there is no evidence against you to suggest otherwise. 

[robblok]

1 minute ago, Reigntax said:

 

Innocent people only end up in jail due to police incompetence, fabrication of evidence, tampering, bias or a lazy attempt to close off a case.

 

If you didnt commit a crime, then there is no evidence against you to suggest otherwise. 

I would not call the Dutch or US or UK police incompetent and I know for sure that in all 3 countries innocents were in jail being Dutch I know about a few famous cases and I have seen movies documentaries about the UK and US to know it happens there too. So I just don't agree with you. It happens and best thing is to get a lawyer when your in trouble. 

[Srikcir]

1 hour ago, smedly said:

I hope they are using an independent forensic lab such as the Central Institute of Forensic Science under the justice department - the only one in Thailand that IMO can be trusted

The chain of custody was broken when the vehicle was not placed under police control immediately after the alleged accident. All forensic analysis can conclude is the current state of the vehicle. But if enforcement and prosecurial agencies seek to save face and/or punishment from wrongful arrest and prosecution, it wouldn't be difficult to now manufacture evidence confirmed by forensics.

The Court shouldn't accept any forensic report that wasn't performed concurrent with the date of the alleged accident. But if it does, the implication is the defendent will be framed.

[Reigntax]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

I would not call the Dutch or US or UK police incompetent and I know for sure that in all 3 countries innocents were in jail being Dutch I know about a few famous cases and I have seen movies documentaries about the UK and US to know it happens there too. So I just don't agree with you. It happens and best thing is to get a lawyer when your in trouble. 

 

Im not sure how " never" could be interpreted any other way, whether in Thailand or any country the same applies.

 

Innocent people are only found guilty by deliberate corrupt or comtemptous acts.

[Reigntax]

5 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

The chain of custody was broken when the vehicle was not placed under police control immediately after the alleged accident. All forensic analysis can conclude is the current state of the vehicle. But if enforcement and prosecurial agencies seek to save face and/or punishment from wrongful arrest and prosecution, it wouldn't be difficult to now manufacture evidence confirmed by forensics.

The Court shouldn't accept any forensic report that wasn't performed concurrent with the date of the alleged accident. But if it does, the implication is the defendent will be framed.

 

An absolute circus again by the RTP about 8 years after the event.

[realenglish1]

Years after the incident they are doing forensics OMG Not even admissible in US courts I wonder why

[elgordo38]

5 hours ago, robblok said:

No lawyer involved at first (if someone says I killed someone with a car I get a lawyer if I did not do it).

Curious lets say someone was killed would an ambulance chaser(s) come to you business cards and all??