What a load of bollards - what about the handicapped?

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What a load of bollards - what about the handicapped?

 

Picture: Sanook

 

BANGKOK: -- Pictures of a new idea to stop Bangkok's motorcyclists from using the sidewalk have appeared online.

 

But they have created a lot of comment, reported Sanook.

 

The bollards arranged in a group of ten will stop bikes alright - but will they also make life difficult for wheelchair users and regular

pedestrians?

 

Many netizens asked the questions after the pictures appeared on the Twitter account of @thecuriousdan.

 

Despite the presence of a wheelchair symbol is seems a bit of an obstacle course to get round the multi-colored bollards.

 

Sanook.com reported that the obstruction was called an S-Guard and was an innovation on the footpath in the Din Daeng area of Ratchadaphisek Road.

 

Source: Sanook

 

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[rodknock]

along with the elevators at bts stations!!

[colinneil]

What a stupid headline, whoever made that1 has not got any idea about being in a wheelchair.

Study the photo, those bollards are very cleverly placed so wheelchair users (like myself ) can use them but not motorbikes.

Get your wheelchair in the bollards then turn sharp left/or right, no problem at all.

Good idea/design.

[ezzra]

Who ever installed those contraptions probably did what he was told to do and not

ask too many questions, it's his bosses and planners are the one that devoid

of any idea of what they're doing, typical to this county, where the motto is

" we do first,  and think later....

[richard_smith237]

41 minutes ago, colinneil said:

What a stupid headline, whoever made that1 has not got any idea about being in a wheelchair.

Study the photo, those bollards are very cleverly placed so wheelchair users (like myself ) can use them but not motorbikes.

Get your wheelchair in the bollards then turn sharp left/or right, no problem at all.

Good idea/design.

 

The idea is there, the design is there, however the underlying necessity exists because the law is simply not being enforced... culturally wide spread laziness and acceptance. 

 

The slack and almost non existent enforcement of the law makes a dogs dinner of any regulation... Ultimately the 'Give a xxxx factor' of those in positions of power is so poor that until a nation wide cultural shift in the moral compass occurs not much will ever improve with regards to accessibility for those less abled (along with many other issues which could see this country becoming much improved).

 

Its not just wheel chairs, try a pushchair with a child...  When there aren't food stalls, telephone boxes, trees, shop signs etc blocking the pavement (sidewalk) making them inaccessible for a push-chair, then its motorcycles flying past making them dangerous...  Ultimately my son goes everywhere in the car with us instead because I refuse to push his push chair down the road. 

 

I see pushchair and wheelchair users in Thailand left with little option but to use the road placing them in further danger which IMO is insane and careless to the extreme by the authorities and those in positions of enforcement.

 

So, while this may be a 'good idea, good design'...   a better idea is that the existing laws are enforced... a better idea is for people in positions of enforcement to stop being so down right careless and bone idle... 

 

 

[jacko45k]

Buy a dozen disc locks for motorcycles. Any motorcycles parked there get their bikes locked by security. It requires them to go to the office to pay for someone to come down and unlock their bike. A warning notice is required. 

 

[Srikcir]

3 hours ago, colinneil said:

Get your wheelchair in the bollards then turn sharp left/or right, no problem at all.

No problem for a motorbike to negotiate either.

[sagittarius6999]

I dont reckon the posts are near enough to stop motor bikes, they are not evenly spaced, think they neded another one to close the gaps, buy hey, TIT

[zorro1]

Sanook reporting is total garbage. Follow the arrow and it's crystal clear the handicapped can get through. I think it's only designed to slow bikes down though.

[hansnl]

4 hours ago, colinneil said:

What a stupid headline, whoever made that1 has not got any idea about being in a wheelchair.

Study the photo, those bollards are very cleverly placed so wheelchair users (like myself ) can use them but not motorbikes.

Get your wheelchair in the bollards then turn sharp left/or right, no problem at all.

Good idea/design.

Indeed, and it works very well.

[PremiumLane]

5 hours ago, ezzra said:

Who ever installed those contraptions probably did what he was told to do and not

ask too many questions, it's his bosses and planners are the one that devoid

of any idea of what they're doing, typical to this county, where the motto is

" we do first,  and think later....

Suggest you read the comments from wheelchair users before you go off Thai bashing again

[Jane Dough]

5 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

The idea is there, the design is there, however the underlying necessity exists because the law is simply not being enforced... culturally wide spread laziness and acceptance. 

 

The slack and almost non existent enforcement of the law makes a dogs dinner of any regulation... Ultimately the 'Give a xxxx factor' of those in positions of power is so poor that until a nation wide cultural shift in the moral compass occurs not much will ever improve with regards to accessibility for those less abled (along with many other issues which could see this country becoming much improved).

 

Its not just wheel chairs, try a pushchair with a child...  When there aren't food stalls, telephone boxes, trees, shop signs etc blocking the pavement (sidewalk) making them inaccessible for a push-chair, then its motorcycles flying past making them dangerous...  Ultimately my son goes everywhere in the car with us instead because I refuse to push his push chair down the road. 

 

I see pushchair and wheelchair users in Thailand left with little option but to use the road placing them in further danger which IMO is insane and careless to the extreme by the authorities and those in positions of enforcement.

 

So, while this may be a 'good idea, good design'...   a better idea is that the existing laws are enforced... a better idea is for people in positions of enforcement to stop being so down right careless and bone idle... 

 

 

But the roads are invariably jammed with cars, where else are honest, hardworking motorcyclists meant to go?

[MyFriend You]

Whats the car doing on the sidewalk??

[berybert]

13 minutes ago, TunnelRat69 said:

Whats the car doing on the sidewalk??

It looks like its waiting to pull out in to the road.

If you took the time to notice the curve of the driveway and pavement you probably wouldn't have asked such a silly question.

[MyFriend You]

23 minutes ago, berybert said:

It looks like its waiting to pull out in to the road.

If you took the time to notice the curve of the driveway and pavement you probably wouldn't have asked such a silly question.

Looked again, no curb, no street, people walking behind it, still loks like its parked.  but left side is blurred,,,,,,,,,,could be, but I answer you cause I am bored.

[superal]

14 hours ago, hansnl said:

Indeed, and it works very well.

Hi , I replied to a posting yesterday " Thanks for giving us back are sidewalks " . If you are wheelchair users how do you manage to navigate the streets of Thailand ? it must be a nightmare .

Furthermore the mind cannot imagine how a blind person could cope even with the aid of a guide dog , probably impossible . 

[kevc]

Newspaper yesterday said they had to put them there because the city inspectors were to busy to enforce the law.....last night I walked up Sukhumvit and three were sitting playing on their phones, one hour later when I passed again they hadn't moved an inch.

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