sandgroper2 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 4 hours ago, HanSRT10 said: Premeditated ? Obviously he planned to shoot someone before he left his house in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Khon Kaen Dave said: Lannig Not taking the piss,but how can a bullet falling from the sky be harmless? I think it was one of the south American countries stopped the firing of guns into the air during festival times to stop exactly that.It is said that if you dropped a coin from the top of the Eiffel tower,and if you accept that the rate of fall, when reaching terminal velocity, which is some 147 feet per second,per second (and please correct me if i am wrong)would kill some one if it fell on their head. We know that velocity of gathering speed will add mass.Therefore the example given is that a coin weighing,say 1 gramme would weigh a lot more as it falls,eventually weighing enough to kill someone,or give them serious injury. Sorry Dave, don,t know where you went to school, but increasing the speed will not alter the mass of the object one teeny weeny bitty. It will however increase the momentum of the moving object, and if that falling object has the required ballistic characteristics it could accelerate to a speed that could cause damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 3 hours ago, Lannig said: Since when stealing a parking place justifies self-defence with a firearm ??? Since your a 50 year old man looking at being attacked by 2 young guys ready to do who knows what to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 (edited) I don't understand the movie. What I see is: he parked the car, then the van aggressively approached, cut in front of him, may be even blocked his car obviously had followed him he got out people from the van get out run to him (which is an aggressive approach) than they run away. When were the shots fired? I can't see The people in the van were the aggressors he acted in self defense against a gang assault premeditated murder ? rubbish Edited February 6, 2017 by sweatalot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxo1947 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, Canceraid said: He should have shot all of them and not just one, now the surviving hooligans will harass other innocent people. These are scum that should be eradicated. Yes those Thai Teenagers---their defiantly over the top aren't they...... Edited February 6, 2017 by metisdead Please do not modify someone else's post in your quoted reply, either with font or color changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khon Kaen Dave Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 phantomfiddler Yes mate you are right,i meant weight.It stands to reason that if you fall from the first rung of a ladder,the damage would be far less than if you fell from 20 feet. I stand corrected. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabian Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 I'm trying too work out why nearly everyone has guns? Who is controlling issuing of permits? If you're not police on duty or Military on duty, where is the need to have a gun? Is it the glamorizing of guns as a cool social ad don as seen on TV that's fueling this obsession? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiwrath Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 4 hours ago, Get Real said: No premeditated murder here! The man was attacked by the 17 year old and his friend. They were also trying to stop him from leaving his parkingspace. Folowing him and his family. Surely a clear case of self defense. Suthep was charged with lethal use of a firearm and premeditated murder. He has been granted bail. Kind of helps if you read the links to these articles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khon Kaen Dave Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 phantomfiddler I was mulling over the post you sent me about the speed mass thing and i came across a article about it.It went something like this. There are two types of mass.Sometimes people say mass,when they mean relativistic mass,that mass gains mass with velocity.Other times they say mass when they mean invariant mass,this type of mass tends to infinity when the velocity approaches light speed. I would appreciate your thoughts and possible answer to this statement.Because the first mass would bear out my statement that mass is gained with velocity. Now i am confused,please clear this up,if you can. Also check out the velocity/mass item on google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
300sd Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 6 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: Premeditated murder, then granted bail ! What exactly does one have to do to be kept incarcerated ? Computer crime ? Easy answer: Do not pay the cops! You will be incarcerated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 25 minutes ago, Thaiwrath said: Suthep was charged with lethal use of a firearm and premeditated murder. He has been granted bail. Kind of helps if you read the links to these articles. Charging is one thing. Trying to prove it is another. This ain´t gonna be any premeditated murder, and that´s simply why they give him bail. And also because of that he stayed at the place until police arrived. If you understand anything about how the law works, then you would understand things like this without asking. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 3 hours ago, seancbk said: Mythbusters tested it out. They made a gun that can fire a penny at 64.4 miles per hour — the same speed at which a penny dropped from the top of the Empire State Building would hit the ground at. They launched it into a ballistics dummy and found that it only caused a little damage. Then, they shot each other with the gun, and while it stung, it didn't really do any harm — certainly not enough to kill someone. Apparently the myth is simply not true. A penny just can't gather enough velocity from the top of the Empire State Building to do any real harm. Acceleration due to gravity is 9.8 meters per sec per sec. the coin falling from any height would be subject to friction of the air which due to its shape would drastically slow it down compare a kg of lead against a kg of feathers, both accelerate at the same level due to gravity but one gets slowed down a lot by air friction. Lesson over kids now go shoot each other with feather bullets and lead bullets to try it out..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobobo Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 6 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: Premeditated murder, then granted bail ! What exactly does one have to do to be kept incarcerated ? Computer crime ? Wrong! Play bridge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lingba Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 6 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: Premeditated murder, then granted bail ! What exactly does one have to do to be kept incarcerated ? Computer crime ? well to start with, you need to be a farang...after that its any crime in which the justice system feels they can fleece you the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Triangle Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 1 hour ago, oxo1947 said: We will all have to take your word on that GT.......us that haven't seen, or made a study of Thai dicks that is................ It's a well known fact that with most Thai males half an inch less and they would have been born a female Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said: It's a well known fact that with most Thai males half an inch less and they would have been born a female Ah so you moved here so you would not stand out.. people who are obsessed by the size of their.. usually have no size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfalfa19 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 5 hours ago, Lannig said: Of course, but it has lost its velocity then so it's harmless. if you shoot a lead pellet a mile up into the air, it gains velocity as it falls back to earth. many people are killed every year by bullets falling onto the top of their heads. this happens a lot during 4th of july celebrations, when revelers discharge their guns straight up, to make noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 7 hours ago, Kasset Tak said: You never shoot only one shot if you aim at a person, always 2 shots. 1in the ground and 1 in the perpetrator and they doesn't have to be at that order as no one can ever prove which bullet you shoot first... that's what I was taught in the army. BTW. Never ever fire a gun in to the air unless you are hunting birds or airplanes as you don't know where the bullet will land! the army learnt you to shoot in the ground, what a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 15 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: Premeditated murder, then granted bail ! What exactly does one have to do to be kept incarcerated ? Computer crime ? Huh? How did you reach the conclusion it was "premeditated murder"? Sure he killed someone but maybe he felt physically threatened and was defending himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiwrath Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, lvr181 said: Huh? How did you reach the conclusion it was "premeditated murder"? Sure he killed someone but maybe he felt physically threatened and was defending himself? See #38, or just try reading links to articles. Edited February 6, 2017 by Thaiwrath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Thaiwrath said: See #38, or just try reading links to articles. Totally irrelevant, using Suthep as an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazySlipper Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 16 hours ago, seancbk said: Mythbusters tested it out. They made a gun that can fire a penny at 64.4 miles per hour — the same speed at which a penny dropped from the top of the Empire State Building would hit the ground at. They launched it into a ballistics dummy and found that it only caused a little damage. Then, they shot each other with the gun, and while it stung, it didn't really do any harm — certainly not enough to kill someone. Apparently the myth is simply not true. A penny just can't gather enough velocity from the top of the Empire State Building to do any real harm. Actually, on the TV show a 1000 ways to die there was a spot on a guy who died from a bullet falling from the sky after some guys shot off their guns during a New Year celebration a couple of miles away Maybe that is just Hollywood... who knows... but wouldn't want to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD13 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 I can't disagree with what this guy did to these "Punks" ......after all he was protecting himself and his family But in hindsight, maybe a "pepper spray " would have deterred them and he wouldn't be in such a predicament I keep one in the car (legal or not) I will worry about that afterwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 An off topic post has been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Size shape weight air resistance are all factors. A piece of cardboard weighing the same as a penny wouldn't fall as fast as the penny. Plus a pistol round fired at a slight upward angle will do a lot more damage than one fired vertically upwards when they land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 20 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: Premeditated murder, then granted bail ! What exactly does one have to do to be kept incarcerated ? Computer crime ? Self defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgoon Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 On 06/02/2017 at 7:51 PM, guzzi850m2 said: The shooter was scared after he was surrounded by the teens in the van after they followed him. So much road rage here, the Thais are supposed to be calm Buddhist but that seems to go out of the window when they are driving. Plastic Buddhist most of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 Thai public rally to support engineer who shot at menacing teens, killing boy 17 Picture: Manager CHONBURI: -- An apparent road rage incident in Chonburi is at the top of the Thai news as video footage of the incident has emerged. An engineer called Suthep Photsomboon was out with his family in the Chonburi area. A van can be seen to apparently block his path at the three way Krok Yai intersection in Muang district. At the same time a car filled with teenagers hems him in from behind, it was claimed, reported Manager Online. Many teenagers got out of the vehicles to confront Suthep in a road rage situation. Feeling threatened he pulled out a .380 gun he had in a bag and fired what he claimed was a warning shot. But Nawaphon Pheungphai, 17, a M4 student at a Bangkok school was hit in the chest. He died later from his injuries. Suthep stayed at the scene to give himself up to police though it appears that he was set upon by angry friends of the victim. The incident has divided Thai public opinion with many saying the reaction was over the top. Manager, however, reported that most members of the public were siding with the engineer who was protecting himself and the occupants of his vehicle. A video has been posted on Facebook from dash can footage inside Suthep's vehicle but while there is audio indicating trouble it does not show the actual shooting or its aftermath. A girl is heard to say: "Did you shoot?" to which the shooter replied "Yes, he went for me". This is followed by much crying. The matter is in the hands of police. The incident occurred on Saturday evening. Source: Manager Online -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2017-02-09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 That mob of kids looks pretty menacing. I suppose he could have just aimed for the legs. Or a warning shot would have more than likely scared these cowardly punks away. There is no doubt that today's youth is far more violent than the previous generation, which still had a fairly good amount of respect for people and society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nontabury Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 What I cannot understand, is that his car did not seem to be blocked in. Why din't he just put foot to pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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