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[webfact]

Homeland Security chief regrets rapid rollout of Trump travel ban

By Julia Edwards Ainsley

REUTERS

 

Retired General John Kelly testifies before a Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee confirmation hearing on Kelly’s nomination to be Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., January 10, 2017. REUTERS/Joshua Roberts

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Homeland Security chief John Kelly told a congressional panel on Tuesday he should have delayed U.S. President Donald Trump's travel ban on people from seven Muslim-majority countries and on all refugees so he could brief Congress on the executive order.

 

The temporary ban ignited international protests as the United States revoked 60,000 visas and detained some travellers who landed in the United States unaware the order had been signed while they were in flight.

 

"The desire was to get it out quick so that potentially people that might be coming here to harm us would not take advantage of some period of time that they could jump on an airplane and get here," Kelly told the House of Representatives Committee on Homeland Security.

 

Kelly took the blame for not briefing Congress on the order before it was announced late on Jan. 27.

 

"This is all on me by the way. I should have delayed it just a bit so that I could talk to members of Congress," he said.

 

Kelly said the confusion at U.S. airports was caused by court orders challenging the ban that went out the day after it went into effect, adding that his team at the Department of Homeland Security acted swiftly to tweak their operations as necessary.

 

The order was signed also with little or no briefing of U.S. government agents responsible for implementing it, contributing to the confusion. There was also no agreement within the administration for several days over whether green card holders - foreign nationals from the seven targeted countries with permanent U.S. residency - should be admitted.

 

The White House reversed itself later and said those with green cards would be granted waivers to enter the country.

 

The ban was suspended by a federal judge last Friday, opening a window for refugees and citizens from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen to enter the United States, pending an appeal by the U.S government.

 

Trump's executive order temporarily barred travellers from the seven Muslim-majority countries and all refugees, except refugees from Syria whom he would ban indefinitely.

 

The ban, which Trump says is needed to protect the United States against Islamist militants, sparked condemnation from critics who said it was discriminatory against Muslims and questioned its value as a security measure.

 

All the people who carried out fatal attacks inspired by Islamist militancy in the United States since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks were U.S. citizens or legal residents, the New America think tank says. None came to the United States or were from a family that emigrated from one of the countries listed in the travel ban, it said. (http://bit.ly/2keSmUO)

 

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco was due to hear arguments about whether to restore the ban at 3 p.m. PST (2300 GMT).

 

KELLY TEMPERS TRUMP IMMIGRATION PROMISES

 

Kelly defended the order, at the hearing, asserting that the seven countries on the list were known to have inadequate systems for sharing information with the United States on their potentially dangerous citizens.

 

He said reports circulated last week that 12 countries could be added to the travel ban were false, adding that no additional countries were being considered.

 

Kelly also said that funding to cities that refuse to cooperate with immigration agents would only be cut on a case-by-case basis.

Trump had threatened to cut large amounts of federal funding to about 300 so-called "sanctuary cities" in order to pressure them to cooperate in the apprehension and deportation of illegal immigrants.

 

Kelly said he did not expect to meet Trump's hiring goals of 5,000 additional U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents and 10,000 Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents within two years. Trump did not specify a timeline when he called for the hiring in his executive action.

 

(Reporting by Julia Edwards Ainsley, additional reporting by Andy Sullivan; Editing by Andrew Hay and Howard Goller)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-02-08

[stevenl]

" Kelly said the confusion at U.S. airports was caused by court orders challenging the ban that went out the day after it went into effect, adding that his team at the Department of Homeland Security acted swiftly to tweak their operations as necessary. "

No, the confusion was caused by a badly thought out executive order.

[harada]

Your fired 

[samsensam]

2 minutes ago, harada said:

Your fired 

 

actually, you're fired.

[craigt3365]

Looks like Trump's lawyers are getting grilled on this. Great!

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/07/politics/travel-ban-oral-arguments/index.html

 

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Travel ban hearing: fiery judges put lawyers on their heels

Judge Michelle T. Friedland out of the gate asked if the government could point to any evidence "connecting these countries with terrorism."

 

And Judge Richard R. Clifton seemed sympathetic to the fact that the states have the standing, or ability, to bring the suit against the administration.

 

Clifton called the government's argument "abstract," noting there are existing procedures to vet individuals for visas.

 

 

[kamahele]

The lawyer representing the Trump government seemed unprepared for questioning at today's hearing

[Credo]

34 minutes ago, kamahele said:

The lawyer representing the Trump government seemed unprepared for questioning at today's hearing

I don't know what anyone expected.   Trump isn't prepared to be questioned about his decisions, is there any reason to believe his lawyers would be any different?

 

It's also difficult to answer for his behavior.   

[Srikcir]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

I should have delayed it just a bit so that I could talk to members of Congress

I doubt Trump gave him that option or even time to fully review the order and consult even within his Department and DOJ.

[Langsuan Man]

19 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

I doubt Trump Bannon gave him that option or even time to fully review the order and consult even within his Department and DOJ.

 

[jollyhangmon]

Here gents, have a LOL at how some countries apply for the title of 'Second Country After USofA' - it's an ongoing contest so there will be more submitted continuously ...:

 

http://everysecondcounts.eu/ 

[smotherb]

Gee, going off half-cocked without proper preparation or informing those expected to either approve it or enforce it; then, having to spin wheels trying to defend it in court when he already has so many personal and business court cases--sure do hope he doesn't start playing golf.

[elgordo38]

3 hours ago, Credo said:

Trump isn't prepared to be questioned about his decisions,

Its a leftover from his business days. 

[farcanell]

Trumps comments on Australian PM Malcolm Turnbull..... and Turnbulls response (in that a picture says a thousand words)

 

no no wonder their one hour scheduled phone call only lasted 28 minutes.... I think someone needs to sit on trumps lap to prevent knee jerking.

[dunroaming]

Blame game is getting going in the Trump camp.  Trump reported to now be angry at Sean Spicer for not performing well enough in defending his statements ( should read lies and false claims).  Of course it isn't Trump's fault for hiring him but Priebus's fault for recommending him.  The circus stumbles on but it's just one faux-pas after another.  Unfortunately this particular circus only appears to consist of clowns and maybe the odd dodgy juggler.

[farcanell]

6 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

Blame game is getting going in the Trump camp.  Trump reported to now be angry at Sean Spicer for not performing well enough in defending his statements ( should read lies and false claims).  Of course it isn't Trump's fault for hiring him but Priebus's fault for recommending him.  The circus stumbles on but it's just one faux-pas after another.  Unfortunately this particular circus only appears to consist of clowns and maybe the odd dodgy juggler.

Here's another bit of dodgy juggling.... they are getting really good at it!

 

trump.... "if it hadn't been for a certain book written by a failed Austrian artist, i might never have learnt to speak in a way that appealed to people from all classes..."

 

Ummm... hitler was a failed Austrian artist, who knew how to talk to the "people"

 

but the White House came up with " mr trump was in fact talking about Rolf Harris" who admittededly turned out to be a bad guy... but is hardly a failed artist (disgraced yes, but not failed).... and he wrote children's books, which hardly teach one to speak in a way that appeals to all peoples, unless he was perhaps referencing harris's 1997 " beastly behavior", or perhaps that he personally believes that he needs to talk to others as if they were children.

 

 (attachment is a part of the article at post 13)

 

oops.

 

 

[ilostmypassword]

17 minutes ago, farcanell said:

Here's another bit of dodgy juggling.... they are getting really good at it!

 

trump.... "if it hadn't been for a certain book written by a failed Austrian artist, i might never have learnt to speak in a way that appealed to people from all classes..."

 

Ummm... hitler was a failed Austrian artist, who knew how to talk to the "people"

 

but the White House came up with " mr trump was in fact talking about Rolf Harris" who admittededly turned out to be a bad guy... but is hardly a failed artist (disgraced yes, but not failed).... and he wrote children's books, which hardly teach one to speak in a way that appeals to all peoples, unless he was perhaps referencing harris's 1997 " beastly behavior", or perhaps that he personally believes that he needs to talk to others as if they were children.

 

 (attachment is a part of the article at post 13)

 

oops.

 

 

If something is too good to be true, it probably is. The Chaser is a satirical Australian publication.  www.chaser.com.au

Edited February 8, 2017 by ilostmypassword

[Acharn]

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"The desire was to get it out quick so that potentially people that might be coming here to harm us would not take advantage of some period of time that they could jump on an airplane and get here," Kelly told the House of Representatives Committee on Homeland Security.

This is ridiculous. He was also apparently afraid to let his TSA agents know beforehand, gave them no training, had no instructions, no way to resolve questions, left them without guidance. Theoretically, President* Trump has the authority to change the regulations. In practice doing so without notice causes hardship to tens, possible hundreds of thousands, of people who have gone through the expensive visa process for two or three years, depending where they're coming from. Nobody from that part of the world can just jump on a plane and come here in a week. Of course the Republicans are all for it, so none of Trump's inexperienced people will be inconvenienced. Still, this suggests that Kelly has a very low opinion of their intelligence.