Is Starbucks for Thais or Westerners?

[phantomfiddler]

Their preferred customer is anyone who wants to pay a ridiculous amount of money for the worst cup of coffee available today

[theoldgit]

Off topic posts and responses have been removed, this thread is about Starbucks not where in the world people post from.

[madusa]

I salute StarBucks for perpetually cheating so many people throughout the whole world.

It is difficult to teach people to drink good coffee, that's the reason for StarBucks success.

 

[SiSePuede419]

The Starbucks I went to had no wifi and charged MORE than Starbucks in America.  Obviously for geniuses, domestic and international ?

[PT Paul]

Me old boss is running his office from Starbucks. He has three MBAs, went to Harvard, organised an IPO and in his last job he sold our business to a Global competitor. He's a legend, but no one has snapped him up since August. 

[brewsterbudgen]

The Starbucks I went to had no wifi and charged MORE than Starbucks in America.  Obviously for geniuses, domestic and international [emoji16]

Which branch has no wifi? Why would you expect it to be cheaper than America? Most imported ideas are more expensive here. Go "Thai" if you want cheap stuff.

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[rijb]

50 minutes ago, madusa said:

I salute StarBucks for perpetually cheating so many people throughout the whole world.

It is difficult to teach people to drink good coffee, that's the reason for StarBucks success.

 

What's the most difficult part to teach?  The part where you stick your nose way up in the air?

[Aachen]

15 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Which branch has no wifi?
 

Dubai Airport. Every shop has WiFi, Starbucks does not.

[DILLIGAD]

I salute StarBucks for perpetually cheating so many people throughout the whole world.
It is difficult to teach people to drink good coffee, that's the reason for StarBucks success.
 

Are you talking about their (Starberks) obscene worldwide tax avoidance situation?


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[Destiny1990]

Even the Starbuck  staff feels sorry for you when they have to charg you 190 bht for a cup of tea tasting like piss.

[F4UCorsair]

On 2/12/2017 at 6:29 AM, Ramen087 said:

These chronic posits I reisd bashing SBicX jusis crack m e up. Wherever you go h the place is near full to overflowing. They must be doing something right. Reminds me of so many 'sour grapes posts' about other consistently successful businesses, like the Apple, the New England Patriots, or McDonald's.  Some people just aren't happy unless they're bashing people or groups with massive success, thinking they're elevating themselves by hating on what so many people enjoy, as though they're above it all. SBUX hasn't fooled the world, they dominate in a food service category they helped create. The large scale retail food marketplace is highly competitive and very efficient. If they weren't outperforming the competition, SBUX would be contracting instead of expanding. If you want to drink coffee acquired at a local roaster, or a different chain, that's cool. But please stop with all this SBUX is crap stuff...it is so tired and boring.

Agree totally.  Starbucks may not be the preferred coffee by a lot of self appointed coffee afficionados/snobs, but for a LOT of people It's their preferred way of taking their caffeine fix.

I just don't understand those who come here and do nothing but bash, from Starbucks to Trump and everything between.  It's so counterproductive, and surely there are better ways to spend time......surely??

There are already those giving Thai coffee a bash, but for me, an Iced Thai coffee from the guy with the coffee cart on the Soi 3 Sukhumvit corner Is near heaven.

It's Individual taste!!

To answer the OP's question, not sure, but Starbucks Is a huge business, always looking to grow, so being In Thailand Is probably principally aimed at Thais, but also picking up the foreigner market. The price puts It out of range for a lot of Thais, but there are often a lot of Thai customers, maybe the yuppIes?

 

[LannaGuy]

don't like it?  don't go!  easy

[wprime]

It's for Thai people to feel like they're consuming like a westerner.

[hugh2121]

It's for those who support charging firefighters for water on 11/9 in New York.

 

I'm not American but have not used Starbucks since this happened.

[Rob13]

6 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:

Even the Starbuck  staff feels sorry for you when they have to charg you 190 bht for a cup of tea tasting like piss.

 

either that or they think you're an idiot.

[Ulysses G.]

On 2/12/2017 at 6:29 AM, Ramen087 said:

These chronic posts I read bashing SBUX just crack me up. Wherever you go the place is near full to overflowing. They must be doing something right. Reminds me of so many 'sour grapes posts' about other consistently successful businesses, like the Apple, the New England Patriots, or McDonald's.  Some people just aren't happy unless they're bashing people or groups with massive success, thinking they're elevating themselves by hating on what so many people enjoy, as though they're above it all. SBUX hasn't fooled the world, they dominate in a food service category they helped create. The large scale retail food marketplace is highly competitive and very efficient. If they weren't outperforming the competition, SBUX would be contracting instead of expanding. If you want to drink coffee acquired at a local roaster, or a different chain, that's cool. But please stop with all this SBUX is crap stuff...it is so tired and boring.

I have nothing against Starbucks and I agree with most of what you have to say. However, I do consider them a waste of money. I can something just as good for much cheaper and I feel self-loathing when I break down and am too lazy to find one. I am no coffee gourmet, but it seems like those types are not crazy about SB coffee anyway.

[LannaGuy]

41 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

I have nothing against Starbucks and I agree with most of what you have to say. However, I do consider them a waste of money. I can something just as good for much cheaper and I feel self-loathing when I break down and am too lazy to find one. I am no coffee gourmet, but it seems like those types are not crazy about SB coffee anyway.

very true and I must confess if I have a date sometimes I choose Starbucks as it does have that little extra 'bling' appeal for the lassies who may not go there very often as it is overpriced as everyone has commented but i can't see much benefit in slagging them off - just don't go. 

[Ramen087]

17 hours ago, ThaiWai said:

Successful marketing and fads don't mean a product is good it just means people consistently fall for advertising bombardment and an intense need to be part of a group.  History has shown that corporations will continue to profit from the feeble minded regardless of product quality.  

Uh, rrrrrrright.  People like you know better, and aren't feeble minded.  An incredibly arrogant mindset.  Guys like Ray Kroc and Howard Schultz went from zero to being worth billions with a winning formula that fooled the hundreds of millions of people who verified their home grown winning formula... are you serious?  You justify your jealousy by convincing yourself they fooled people who must be less smart than you, classifying all of those people as feeble minded.  How dare you? 

[Ramen087]

1 hour ago, Ulysses G. said:

I have nothing against Starbucks and I agree with most of what you have to say. However, I do consider them a waste of money. I can something just as good for much cheaper and I feel self-loathing when I break down and am too lazy to find one. I am no coffee gourmet, but it seems like those types are not crazy about SB coffee anyway.

Making something of very similar or even the exact level of quality at home isn't very difficult. You are one hundred percent correct. SBUX sells the experience. Without the experience, it's just coffee. As far as the self-loathing... it may not hurt to cut yourself some slack. We're all human.  ?

 

[Ace of Pop]

One of the nicest Coffee is Arabica up in the Hil Tribe area .Brewed in Grandads Old Sock and only 10 Bht.☃️


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[sandemara]

I personally don't enjoy Starbucks' take on what coffee should be.  But I think the organisation targets the wannabe hi-so Thai segment of the population: those with more money than taste  or good sense. So who cares how they get gouged?

[Ramen087]

On ‎2‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 10:59 AM, Fairynuff said:

A couple of years ago I read that Starbucks were changing their logo from Starbucks Coffee to just Starbucks. I think it was for good reason. If you love coffee you're not gonna go to Starbucks 

Ludicrous.... PMSL!!!

[Ramen087]

16 minutes ago, sandemara said:

I personally don't enjoy Starbucks' take on what coffee should be.  But I think the organisation targets the wannabe hi-so Thai segment of the population: those with more money than taste  or good sense. So who cares how they get gouged?

With all the available retail coffee alternatives, those thousands of daily retail sales from individuals are telling you they're getting good value for their baht. There is no need to denigrate all those people and the company that sells to them simply because you don't like the SBUX way of brewing and serving coffee.  

[sandemara]

1 minute ago, Ramen087 said:

There is no need to denigrate all those people and the company that sells to them simply because you don't like the SBUX way of brewing and serving coffee.  

Ramen - who's denigrating? The customers are doing it to themselves quite happily, and in my post I suggested they be allowed to continue to do so without interference from others.  Does it worry you that, based on the logic you apply in developing your argument, Donald Trump should be automatically revered as a "high quality" President just because a whole lot of dunderheads voted for him?  It's great thinking if mediocrity is your ideal.

[Ramen087]

6 minutes ago, sandemara said:

Ramen - who's denigrating? The customers are doing it to themselves quite happily, and in my post I suggested they be allowed to continue to do so without interference from others.  Does it worry you that, based on the logic you apply in developing your argument, Donald Trump should be automatically revered as a "high quality" President just because a whole lot of dunderheads voted for him?  It's great thinking if mediocrity is your ideal.

It was you who stated all of those hi-so Thais had more money than sense. The Thais (with less sense than money, according to you) and millions like them, are rational and lend efficiency to a very competitive marketplace, in which many fail. SBUX is the global leader in their segment, which they created, because they're the very best at what they do. They charge a premium price for a premium experience and millions of people willingly fork over their cash to buy that experience. Day after day, week after week, year after year. There is nothing mediocre about it.  There is no need to knock all of those people by stating they have less sense than $$$$. That comment is clearly an insult to all of those hi-so Thais.

 

Your reference to politics is bizarre.

[Ramen087]

In addition, the rationality of the customer base was proven years ago. When Howard Schultz first left the firm and SBUX drifted away from the premium coffee experience, sales dropped dramatically and the price of the stock also plummeted. After he returned and the firm went back to concentrating on the SBUX experience with quality coffee products at the forefront, sales rose, the stock recovered and there's been no looking back since. The market spoke, the company responded. It's no accident.

[Destiny1990]

Starbucks will say everybody foolish enough paying our horrible prices for mudwater and sugar poisoning factory processed snacks are more then welcome. Thai chines russians farangs etc.

[01322521959]

I asked about WiFi and they wanted to charge me , so I went to the Thai cafe where WiFi was free.

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[ThaiWai]

6 hours ago, Ramen087 said:

Uh, rrrrrrright.  People like you know better, and aren't feeble minded.  An incredibly arrogant mindset.  Guys like Ray Kroc and Howard Schultz went from zero to being worth billions with a winning formula that fooled the hundreds of millions of people who verified their home grown winning formula... are you serious?  You justify your jealousy by convincing yourself they fooled people who must be less smart than you, classifying all of those people as feeble minded.  How dare you? 

Evidence exists to support my claim. Go look it up. I never said anything about McDonald's so not sure what your point is there. Stay focused feeble one.

[nuakmuaynina]

My ex husabnd used to take so many photos and post on facebook whenever we'd go to a starbucks.  I think its one of those brads thais aspire to but a lot cant afford....