Maestro Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I saw Leo beer in a supermarket in Switzerland the other day but as I have never drunk it in Thailand I won't start now. I had a good look at the list of ingredients, though, required to be on the label by Swiss law: water barley malt rice maltose syrup (tapioca) hops antioxidant (E300) potassium metabisulfite E300 is ascorbic acid, also known as vitamin C. The price in Switzerland? CHF 1.00 (THB 35) per bottle of 330 mL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 That's very cheap considering it's been transported half way around the world, presumably had import duties / sales taxes applied and includes profit for the retailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 34 baht per bottle at Tesco Lotus in Thailand. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 hour ago, ukrules said: That's very cheap considering it's been transported half way around the world, presumably had import duties / sales taxes applied and includes profit for the retailer. Yet the Thais manage to jack up the price of an Australian bottle of red nearly 3 times the price in Australia.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maoro2013 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 If it is exported it would be under bond and no local excise paid. It could be that Switzerland's excise/duty is less than Thailands. Usually the biggest cost to the consumer is are the various taxes on alcohol, same with fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffH Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 The only fermentable carbohydrate in lager should be malted barley. Rice, tapioca.... Yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Surprised it has ingredients taste like just fizzy water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 That rice is suspect in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Not a drinker...I had a glass once, all beer looks and tastes the same! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I keep a casein the condo/fridge as it is the beer of choice for many of the guests I have over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cats4ever Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 35 minutes ago, IAMHERE said: That rice is suspect in my opinion. Not really - Beer Lao also has it. Not sure about the others. Obviously rice is cheaper and more available than western grains. Beer Lao is fine, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisemonkey Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 It's crap... but it's better than both Singha and Chang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 22 minutes ago, Cats4ever said: Not really - Beer Lao also has it. Not sure about the others. Obviously rice is cheaper and more available than western grains. Beer Lao is fine, in my opinion. Rice I understand for brewing beer; too much bad to poor rice being sold cheaply the last several years is what I suspect. Premium rice ok, rotten rice not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordblackader Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 It left formaldehyde of the list, it's a well known local beer ingredient according to some expats :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 On the box "Gold Medal Award for World Class Quality" I'm guessing that is in the category of "Best Thai Beer With Leopard on Label". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno2 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Leo beer is made by sangha brewing company, you can see that on the label you posted. I prefer it to sangha, its not a bad drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macthehat Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Been drinking it for years but I noticed a change in the labeling & taste 3 months ago . It doesn't take well to being chilled too much and gives me the shit's....now I've switched to Chang...cheaper ,stronger and smoother than all I've tried ....but still not a great beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 1 hour ago, IAMHERE said: Rice I understand for brewing beer; too much bad to poor rice being sold cheaply the last several years is what I suspect. Premium rice ok, rotten rice not so much. Koreans, Japanese and Chinese seem to enjoy their rice wines and liquor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick220675 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I think the US has a larger called Budweiser that has rice listed in its ingredients. Personally I do not like any Thai beers, but as a alcoholic I force myself to drink chang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marquis22 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 3 hours ago, cruisemonkey said: It's crap... but it's better than both Singha and Chang. And Cheers and Archa even better than Leo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duanebigsby Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 6 hours ago, lordblackader said: It left formaldehyde of the list, it's a well known local beer ingredient according to some expats :) "according to some expats" The operative words in this statement as it's b.s., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duanebigsby Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 9 hours ago, CliffH said: The only fermentable carbohydrate in lager should be malted barley. Rice, tapioca.... Yikes! Tapioca and maltose syrup are two completely different things, and tapioca is not in beer. The maltose is completely turned into co2 and alcohol in fermentation so isn't in the final product. Rice , as an adjunct, is found in many of the world's beers and is not necessarily bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marquis22 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 19 minutes ago, duanebigsby said: Tapioca and maltose syrup are two completely different things, and tapioca is not in beer. The maltose is completely turned into co2 and alcohol in fermentation so isn't in the final product. Rice , as an adjunct, is found in many of the world's beers and is not necessarily bad. Well what made the last slap of Chang cans taste so vile? Will stick to Archa or Cheers from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duanebigsby Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 1 hour ago, marquis22 said: Well what made the last slap of Chang cans taste so vile? Will stick to Archa or Cheers from now on. Not sure why you've addressed my comment with this response. What you've replied with has nothing to do whatsoever with my post Obviously which beer is "better" is personal opinion and not fact. Stick with what you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxcorrigan Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 10 hours ago, Cats4ever said: Not really - Beer Lao also has it. Not sure about the others. Obviously rice is cheaper and more available than western grains. Beer Lao is fine, in my opinion. Not sure but does'nt Budweiser get some of ingredients from rice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George FmplesdaCosteedback Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 It is Singha's little brother. 9 hours ago, lordblackader said: It left formaldehyde of the list, it's a well known local beer ingredient according to some expats :) It was used instead of finings to stop the fermentation. It's not been used in Thai beer for 30 odd years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lickey Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Tudweiser isnt a beer,not if brewed in US anyway,try some in Checkoslavakia, lot more like beer,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duanebigsby Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 10 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said: It is Singha's little brother. It was used instead of finings to stop the fermentation. It's not been used in Thai beer for 30 odd years. Finings are not used to stop fermentation. They are clarifying agents. Spent proteins cling to them and they drop out of solution, producing a clear beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrenn Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Switzerland has some fine beer brewed right on its doorstep. Why there is any demand for ghastly Leo beer anywhere outside Thailand baffles me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Maxwell Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 well fellow compatriots finally an interesting subject that is relevant !our past time now I agree with the gentleman macthehat the recipe does seem to have changed and about the same time 3 to 4 months ago the bottle shape was the first sign something was up and the label as well ! I have drank this beer for the last 6 years on a daily basis and originaly I found it to be the best in my opinion as it was a smooth refreshing lager and not to strong so hangovers were limited which was great as I hate them ! I noticed firstly the taste of the beer had changed metal flavour and some occasions almost as if it didn't have gas in it ! I also have experienced several bad stomach situations which never happened before 4 months ago quite concerning as I have a iron liver for booze ! LoL ! so I am told ! why is it these beer companies have to bugger around with the wining formula when you have it right leave it alone or produce another variety under a different label so we can choose what we like ! San Miguel is a classic example I used to live in Spain and this beer when it was brewed and owned by Spanish and Philippine companies was a lovely beer back in the day now its horrible and I for one can not drink it its pure chemicals yuk ! try a test for beers guys put your favourite beer unopened in the sunshine until warm then open it and see if you can drink it without vomiting if you can drink it then its beer ! smell it first you may not want to go that far! LoL ! I also had the privilege of living in Bavaria which was ecstasy for a true beer drinker I can assure you all very recommended as beer is brewed with out chemicals there and it is illegal to do so these guys should take some lessons from them in my opinion ! otherwise always carry Imodium packet with you if you don't already !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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