Honda PCX 150 Dashboard Lights Replacement

[GaryB1263]

I can't see the entire dashboard at night. Only half my speedometer is visable. Is it diffucult to change these bulbs? How do I get into the dash is the main problem.

[papa al]

EZ for experienced scooter tech.

Change all the bulbs while in there.

They're cheap.

[PC800]

Gary, I am glad you posted this as I have the same problem.   The speedometer bar itself is visible, but not the numbers.   I brought it to Mityon Honda in Pattaya, and was told it needed a NEW SPEEDOMETER assembly.  The "bulbs" are small LED lights on a printed circuit board.  Yes, papa al, an experienced scooter tech might be able to fix, but I think it would require soldering bulbs on a board.   Anyway, I was told I needed a new speedometer.   The cost from Honda:    5,000 baht!!!!    I hope someone has a more reasonable solution.

[cornishcarlos]

I just stripped my Wave dash down, as had a similar issue on my fuel gauge.

Was a bit of a jigsaw puzzle but I got there in the end. Turns out I would also need a full unit, just to replace a 30mm x 10mm screen, cost 2750 baht !!!

 

I'm just going to make sure I keep topping up the fuel before it runs out.. I can live with that...

 

On a plus note, when I reassembled the bike, I ended up with a couple spare screws :) 

[CMKiwi]

2 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:

I just stripped my Wave dash down, as had a similar issue on my fuel gauge.

Was a bit of a jigsaw puzzle but I got there in the end. Turns out I would also need a full unit, just to replace a 30mm x 10mm screen, cost 2750 baht !!!

 

I'm just going to make sure I keep topping up the fuel before it runs out.. I can live with that...

 

On a plus note, when I reassembled the bike, I ended up with a couple spare screws :) 

Had the same problem with the missus's wave dash.....fuel gauge faulty.

 

Isn't it funny how you always end up with spare screws!  Maybe a memo to head office could save them thousands. Obviously as the bike still runs ok, those screws weren't needed...?

[GaryB1263]

A completely new dash? That is sad. I expected more out of Honda

[Richard-BKK]

Fixing the lights in the dashboard is not that difficult. When I was younger I did it myself, but now-a-day, if a dashboard of a modern motorcycle/scooter go’s dark I disassemble the complete meter assembly and bring the electric board to my local television repair shop… 2 day later pick it up and fixed cost 300 THB… hardly worth the money to do it yourself…

[GaryB1263]

5 minutes ago, Richard-BKK said:

Fixing the lights in the dashboard is not that difficult. When I was younger I did it myself, but now-a-day, if a dashboard of a modern motorcycle/scooter go’s dark I disassemble the complete meter assembly and bring the electric board to my local television repair shop… 2 day later pick it up and fixed cost 300 THB… hardly worth the money to do it yourself…

 

That's interesting. Can you use the bike while the board is being repaired?

[Richard-BKK]

8 minutes ago, GaryB1263 said:

That's interesting. Can you use the bike while the board is being repaired?

To be honest, I never tried it – on some modern motorcycles/scooters the dashboard is also houses some essential electronics for the operation of the motorcycle. In the case of a Honda PCX150 you probably can use the scoot, but I would not recommend it….

[GaryB1263]

Nothing is simple anymore.

[papa al]

3 hours ago, PC800 said:

Gary, I am glad you posted this as I have the same problem.   The speedometer bar itself is visible, but not the numbers.   I brought it to Mityon Honda in Pattaya, and was told it needed a NEW SPEEDOMETER assembly.  The "bulbs" are small LED lights on a printed circuit board.  Yes, papa al, an experienced scooter tech might be able to fix, but I think it would require soldering bulbs on a board.   Anyway, I was told I needed a new speedometer.   The cost from Honda:    5,000 baht!!!!    I hope someone has a more reasonable solution.

i stand corrected.

& 

good idea R-BKK ++

&

papa goes weeks without ever looking down at speedo.

whats the point of it?

dunno.

Back in the world,

different story.

speeding tick very expensive.

[Pepper9187]

8 hours ago, PC800 said:

Gary, I am glad you posted this as I have the same problem.   The speedometer bar itself is visible, but not the numbers.   I brought it to Mityon Honda in Pattaya, and was told it needed a NEW SPEEDOMETER assembly.  The "bulbs" are small LED lights on a printed circuit board.  Yes, papa al, an experienced scooter tech might be able to fix, but I think it would require soldering bulbs on a board.   Anyway, I was told I needed a new speedometer.   The cost from Honda:    5,000 baht!!!!    I hope someone has a more reasonable solution.

 

1) Find and download the honda part manual for your PCX (download for the correct year).

2) Search for the bulb's part number, write it down, go to any Honda shop and ask to buy the bulb, it's gona cost you 10-20 baht max and any honda shop will have the part.

 

3) Change it yourself

[canthai55]

No bulbs on this. Not like a car from the 60's

 

 

Edited April 19, 2017 by canthai55

[Richard-BKK]

The part number to fix this is 37210-K36-A01, it's basically the whole electronic back (printboard) plate of the dashboard. It's also one of the most expensive part of the Honda PCX150 which is not engine related...

 

You can un-solder and solder new LED light on the print board pretty easy, but as I'm getting older I prefer to let somebody else do it... For fun you can change the LED light colors, most people who un-solder and solder new LED lights are modifiers that want more exotic color in the dashboard...

[Pepper9187]

What a piece of crap, you're telling me there were so confident in their LED tech that they did not even consider to do it replaceable ! Well done Honda.

 

I have an idea but you're not gona like it

[MINIMIGLIA]

a good LED will last a lifetime, clearly Honda is using crap, a bit like their F1 failure?

[Richard-BKK]

Most of the time when the light in the dashboard of a modern motorcycle/scooter is failing, it has a problem that moister has got into the dashboard. The most common problem doesn't even involve the LEDs, most of the time the lense has moved a millimeter or 2 and the light of the LED is not direct into the lense anymore... Both the moister and dislocated lense can happen when the motorcycle or scoot falls or is involved in an accident... The dashboard can look on the outside perfect but internal it had a blow, or a seal has been broken...

 

By the way the problem is not only related to Honda, other manufacturers like Yamaha, Kawasaki and Suzuki also use soldered on LED lights in the dashboard. If you really don't like LEDs soldered on the printboard, you should buy a Lifan, Zongshen, GPX or another Chinese motorcycle, as they often still use the good old light bulbs in the dashboard....

[edwinchester]

Similar problem on my cbr250r. LCD display still works but is not backlit. My local Honda dealer told me it was a known fault across many models.

Cost to fix was stupid so as I do very little nighttime riding I can live with it.

[GaryB1263]

It sickens me. Honda was suppose to be better.

[papa al]

43 minutes ago, edwinchester said:

 

Cost to fix was stupid so as I do very little nighttime riding I can live with it.

how much?

[GaryB1263]

How much is a good question and does Honda have the problem fixed????

[edwinchester]

7 minutes ago, papa al said:

how much?

Can't remember exactly as it failed over 2 years ago but it was something like 2000 bht to fix.

[edwinchester]

16 minutes ago, GaryB1263 said:

It sickens me. Honda was suppose to be better.

Tbh I am very happy with my cbr250r. 45k km's in 5 years and the backlight has been the only problem.

Unless I win the lotto my next bike will be a Honda in which case an MV Augusta will be on order before wifey gets a chance to spend it.

Edited April 27, 2017 by edwinchester

[Richard-BKK]

If the LEDs are not damaged, a complete Honda PCX150 LENS assembly (part number 37211-K45-305) will set you back a few hundred THB... If in a serious bump the gasket has got damaged, a new gasket will also cost you a few hundred THB (Honda part number 37205-K35-V01). But often disassembling the dashboard and reassembling with the gasket in the correct way will be enough... If by some stupidity the dashboard case got damaged and has cracked, a new complete case assembly will cost you around 1000 THB (Honda part number 37212-K35-V01).

 

Time to repair, 15 to 20 minutes... not rushing it...

Edited April 27, 2017 by Richard-BKK

[speedtripler]

I thought hondas have a 3 or   5 yr warranty 

 if the speedo lights  stopped working id argue this should be covered before paying a few K to fix it 

(providing it failed inside the warranty period )

 

although ,bear in mind TIT and the customer is not even right ,hes a nuisance

[VocalNeal]

Everyone salivates over technology and yet when it is applied they complain!

[Richard-BKK]

12 hours ago, speedtripler said:

I thought hondas have a 3 or   5 yr warranty 

 if the speedo lights  stopped working id argue this should be covered before paying a few K to fix it 

(providing it failed inside the warranty period )

 

although ,bear in mind TIT and the customer is not even right ,hes a nuisance

99.9 percent of lights in the dashboard not working is the result of a crash or the motorcycle falling. Anything that stops working as a result of a crash or the motorcycle / scoot falling is not covered by the warranty of the motorcycle/scoot.

[edwinchester]

8 minutes ago, Richard-BKK said:

99.9 percent of lights in the dashboard not working is the result of a crash or the motorcycle falling. Anything that stops working as a result of a crash or the motorcycle / scoot falling is not covered by the warranty of the motorcycle/scoot.

Except that 2 mechanics have now told me Honda have a known problem in their LCD displays with the backlights failing.

[Richard-BKK]

If Honda has a known problem with the dashboard, would not more people complain? I remember the few days before Honda confirmed that they would recall the Honda CBR300R and CB300F for an engine problem, you could not open a motorcycle or automotive forum or you were confronted with people complaining about have issues...

[edwinchester]

20 hours ago, Richard-BKK said:

If Honda has a known problem with the dashboard, would not more people complain? I remember the few days before Honda confirmed that they would recall the Honda CBR300R and CB300F for an engine problem, you could not open a motorcycle or automotive forum or you were confronted with people complaining about have issues...

Complaints on the cbr250r.net forum going back a few years too.