Do you think Trump will be impeached or forced to resign?

[Morch]

20 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It's fair to assume if it happens it will because NK has crossed a red line and trump would react to save macho face. A not insane president would never have made the sick speech trump just made. He basically threatened a nuclear attack in response to threatening rhetoric from NK. NK will threaten again. If the clown doesn't follow through he looks weak. We all know how much the clown hates looking weak. In that sense if it plays out that way I would say yes trump started the war. Moronic dangerous man.

Was about to click that "like" button. Then made it to the "I would say yes Trump started the war" bit. The usual partisan fare. Pity, was a very reasonable post up to that.

 

[Jingthing]

A major war would "justify" suppression of internal civil liberties, free press, and you can be sure the clown would fire Mueller.

[inThailand]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

A major war would "justify" suppression of internal civil liberties, free press, and you can be sure the clown would fire Mueller.

No one would care any more about the Russian investigation. 24x7 the news would be about the war.

[Thakkar]

19 minutes ago, inThailand said:

Trump does have a clown mouth. But when its time to make a deision he makes rational good business decisons. They should cut off this twitter account and get him back on the pressing issues. 

All the decisions that led to his decision to declare bankruptcy were good business decision. They were so good, he made them multiple times!

 

His decision to hire Mike Flynn after being advised not to, was a good decision.

His decision to hire The Mooch was a good decision.

His decision to fire Comey was a food decision.

His decision to admit it was because of Russia was a good decision

The above two decision led directly to the setting up of the Special Prosecuter. So, Great Decision!

 

The man is just chock full of good decisions, god help us.

 

T

[Morch]

19 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

"A country...no one likes"

 

OR know the location of:

 

 

 

Would love to see a North Korean TV show host doing such interviews in Pyongyang. Oh wait...

[Jingthing]

No one would care any more about the Russian investigation. 24x7 the news would be about the war.

A benefit for the clown. Yes he would be advantaged by a war. True of authoritarian sleazeballs in general.

[Jingthing]

All the decisions that led to his decision to declare bankruptcy were good business decision. They were so good, he made them multiple times!  

His decision to hire Mike Flynn after being advised not to, was a good decision.

His decision to hire The Mooch was a good decision.

His decision to fire Comey was a food decision.

His decision to admit it was because of Russia was a good decision

The above two decision led directly to the setting up of the Special Prosecuter. So, Great Decision!

 

The man is just chock full of good decisions, god help us.

 

T

 

Yes as Bloomberg the "globalist" famously said if he runs the country like he runs his business God help us.

 

 

 

[Morch]

18 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

A major war would "justify" suppression of internal civil liberties, free press, and you can be sure the clown would fire Mueller.

 

The only way this hyperbole will apply would be if a nuclear strike would indeed be carried out on US soil. Other than that, doubt that the two houses will roll over, or that the media will. Same goes for firing Mueller.

 

[Morch]

21 minutes ago, inThailand said:

No one would care any more about the Russian investigation. 24x7 the news would be about the war.

 

But it wouldn't stop the investigation.

[Thakkar]

7 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Would love to see a North Korean TV show host doing such interviews in Pyongyang. Oh wait...

One expects a tad more from citizens of the richest, most powerful country in the world, the leader of the free world, an open country where people have access to free education (at least till senior high), libraries, internet access, 500 Tv stations, etc, etc, etc

 

having said that, such segments are misleading. We don't know how many people they interviewed before editing this down to the five dumbest. But, still it's funny.

Edited August 9, 2017 by Thakkar

[Morch]

1 minute ago, Thakkar said:

One expects a tad more from citizens of the richest, most powerful country in the world, the leader of the free world, an open country where people have access to free education (at least till senior high), libraries, internet access, 500 Tv stations, etc, etc, etc

 

One expects that posters would realize a talk show "survey" is there to entertain, if not to push a point - and that it does not necessarily reflect knowledge level on a national scale.

 

One could also expect that living in a the most powerful country in the world etc, people have less concrete worries about such issues, and therefore less concrete knowledge. 

 

That said, it was amusing.

 

[Thakkar]

3 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

One expects that posters would realize a talk show "survey" is there to entertain, if not to push a point - and that it does not necessarily reflect knowledge level on a national scale.

 

One could also expect that living in a the most powerful country in the world etc, people have less concrete worries about such issues, and therefore less concrete knowledge. 

 

That said, it was amusing.

 

You're quick on the draw!

you must've responded while I was editing my post. I had clicked post before finishing my thought. Read my post again. ?

[maewang99]

this website might want to zero in on a new related topic....

tonight's New York Times.... other media will follow along over the coming months....

watch and see.. and I brought it up well before.... it's big for US expats....

the dollah & Trump.

 

it ain't some big one time FDI in flows.... the so called "strong" baht......


 

Edited August 9, 2017 by maewang99

[Andaman Al]

6 hours ago, inThailand said:

Trump does have a clown mouth. But when its time to make a deision he makes rational good business decisons. They should cut off this twitter account and get him back on the pressing issues. 

Can you name any of the good business decisions that Trump ever made? Do not include decisions that were not legal or that resulted in him deciding not to pay his contractors or ensuring that his investors money was lost and his was not during any bankruptcies. So off you go and list the good decisions. It won't take much bandwidth or much of your time.

 

 

5 hours ago, inThailand said:

No one would care any more about the Russian investigation. 24x7 the news would be about the war.

Ah the light is coming on now is it.

[Andaman Al]

Perhaps some would find it beneficial to listen to some sensible people discussing this subject, as we appear to be at about 30 seconds to midnight on the doomsday clock.

 

Lets start by hearing what General Clapper has to say on Trumps 'words' and the predicted consequences.

 

 

[hgma]

18 hours ago, thehelmsman said:

The problem with addressing a comment is that you have no idea what I was addressing. The credibility of the USA declined during the Obama era. We remember him drawing lines in the sand and then backing up some more. Remember when the Chinese snubbed him when he arrived in China for the G20. He had to scurry out the back of the plane because the Chinese didn't even present him with stairs and the red carpet. And he just played it off. It's your right to see things through your own twisted view of things but don't insult others for not following suit. My view of Obama is that he was a joke to the rest of the world.

 

Have a nice day................I'm out of this little social circle.

Diplomacy has noting to do with hacking wood for the fireplace.

It is based on compromise, THAT is called democracy, Bi-partisan decisions and protocol.

Tillerson vs Trump.

Rhetoric which makes sense and lie after lie to be ridiculed by 'i was joking'

The ability to govern , not shout what ordinary people want to hear but is unrealistic.

Debate, which you prefer to avoid by 'stepping out'

Without a healthy debate,nothing will ever change in your world.

Nevertheless i respect that.

Best wishes

HGMA

 

 

 

[Skywalker69]

California Crops Rot as Immigration Crackdown Creates Farmworker Shortage

 

 

Vegetable prices may be going up soon, as a shortage of migrant workers is resulting in lost crops in California.

Farmers say they're having trouble hiring enough people to work during harvest season, causing some crops to rot before they can be picked. Already, the situation has triggered losses of more than $13 million in two California counties alone, according to NBC News.

 

The ongoing battle about U.S. immigration policies is blamed for the shortage. The vast majority of California's farm workers are foreign born, with many coming from Mexico. However, the PEW Research Center reports more Mexicans are leaving the U.S. than coming here.

 

http://fortune.com/2017/08/08/immigration-worker-shortage-rotting-crops/

[thehelmsman]

3 minutes ago, Skywalker69 said:

California Crops Rot as Immigration Crackdown Creates Farmworker Shortage

 

 

Vegetable prices may be going up soon, as a shortage of migrant workers is resulting in lost crops in California.

Farmers say they're having trouble hiring enough people to work during harvest season, causing some crops to rot before they can be picked. Already, the situation has triggered losses of more than $13 million in two California counties alone, according to NBC News.

 

The ongoing battle about U.S. immigration policies is blamed for the shortage. The vast majority of California's farm workers are foreign born, with many coming from Mexico. However, the PEW Research Center reports more Mexicans are leaving the U.S. than coming here.

 

http://fortune.com/2017/08/08/immigration-worker-shortage-rotting-crops/

And, Trump hasn't even built any of the Wall yet. Problem solved.

[ilostmypassword]

1 minute ago, thehelmsman said:

And, Trump hasn't even built any of the Wall yet. Problem solved.

And he didn't just solve a problem. He created one too. Go Trump!

[thehelmsman]

1 minute ago, ilostmypassword said:

And he didn't just solve a problem. He created one too. Go Trump!

What only Mexicans can do this work? Time to get the lazy, stay at home, healthy Americans who would rather wait for a handout out in the fields.

The farmers will have to pay a little more, produce prices will rise a bit in the stores. Machinery will evolve to eliminate man power. We'll figure it out.

 

But, having open border policy because the price of lettuce will go up is absurd.

[mtls2005]

Wag the Dog

 

 

[Skywalker69]

49 minutes ago, thehelmsman said:

And, Trump hasn't even built any of the Wall yet. Problem solved.

[Skywalker69]

46 minutes ago, thehelmsman said:

What only Mexicans can do this work? Time to get the lazy, stay at home, healthy Americans who would rather wait for a handout out in the fields.

The farmers will have to pay a little more, produce prices will rise a bit in the stores. Machinery will evolve to eliminate man power. We'll figure it out.

 

But, having open border policy because the price of lettuce will go up is absurd.

Quote

Time to get the lazy, stay at home, healthy Americans who would rather wait for a handout out in the fields.

Sounds like Trump voters!

[Thakkar]

58 minutes ago, thehelmsman said:

And, Trump hasn't even built any of the Wall yet. Problem solved.

 

Mexican farm laborers, illegal and legal, were the solution to a problem, not the problem.

 

Americans weren't willing and in many cases simply unable to do the required labor. This is a combination of many factors, including:

The work is seasonal.

The places where Americans willing to do the work live, are not the places that have the work and nobody's going to move their families for seasonal work.

 

For a high enough wage, American workers can of course be found. But that would make the resulting products too expensive and cheaper to import. The farmer and the other non farm Americans he employed would be out of work while consumers would also be paying more at the till.

 

Many farm products are used by American manufacturers to make processed foods for export. They too would suffer leading to more Americans losing their jobs.

 

The solution is more mechanization, which is already happening, but takes time. The interim solution is to allow more legal imported labor and to simultaneously severely punish employers who hire illegals. 

 

Punishing the illegals may satisfy bigoted sadists, but doesn't solve the actual problem.

 

T

[Andaman Al]

2 minutes ago, Skywalker69 said:

Sounds like Trump voters!

That's the way of life they are trying to protect! MAGA!

[Skywalker69]

60,000 Psychologists Say Trump Has "Serious Mental Illness"

 

The group "Duty to Warn," founded by influential psychotherapist Dr. John Gartner, has gathered nearly 60,000 signatures from mental healthprofessionals on a petition calling for the removal of Donald Trump from office due to "serious mental illness that renders him psychologically incapable of competently discharging the duties of President of the United States." The group hopes to reach its goal of 75,000 signatures before planned multi-city town hall meetings on October 14

 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/me-we/201708/60000-psychologists-say-trump-has-serious-mental-illness

 

 

[pegman]

47 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

 

Mexican farm laborers, illegal and legal, were the solution to a problem, not the problem.

 

Americans weren't willing and in many cases simply unable to do the required labor. This is a combination of many factors, including:

The work is seasonal.

The places where Americans willing to do the work live, are not the places that have the work and nobody's going to move their families for seasonal work.

 

For a high enough wage, American workers can of course be found. But that would make the resulting products too expensive and cheaper to import. The farmer and the other non farm Americans he employed would be out of work while consumers would also be paying more at the till.

 

Many farm products are used by American manufacturers to make processed foods for export. They too would suffer leading to more Americans losing their jobs.

 

The solution is more mechanization, which is already happening, but takes time. The interim solution is to allow more legal imported labor and to simultaneously severely punish employers who hire illegals. 

 

Punishing the illegals may satisfy bigoted sadists, but doesn't solve the actual problem.

 

T

The solution was always in going after the employers. Look what happened when Thailand laid out plans to do that. 

[Thakkar]

7 minutes ago, pegman said:

The solution was always in going after the employers. Look what happened when Thailand laid out plans to do that. 

On the same note, Trump's own foreign worker hiring practices CURRENTLY being used  (begins at 0:35 mark)

 

 

 

[Thakkar]

2 hours ago, Skywalker69 said:

California Crops Rot as Immigration Crackdown Creates Farmworker Shortage

 

 

Vegetable prices may be going up soon, as a shortage of migrant workers is resulting in lost crops in California.

Farmers say they're having trouble hiring enough people to work during harvest season, causing some crops to rot before they can be picked. Already, the situation has triggered losses of more than $13 million in two California counties alone, according to NBC News.

 

The ongoing battle about U.S. immigration policies is blamed for the shortage. The vast majority of California's farm workers are foreign born, with many coming from Mexico. However, the PEW Research Center reports more Mexicans are leaving the U.S. than coming here.

 

http://fortune.com/2017/08/08/immigration-worker-shortage-rotting-crops/

Not just farm sector. High tech sector also affected by Trump's xenophobic rhetoric:

 

Hannah Kuchler (?@hannahkuchler?)

10/8/17, 01:25

These stats shocked me: Silicon Valley hiring of foreign tech workers fell 46 per cent in the first quarter ft.com/content/76eb16…

 

A lot of these talented tech workers can find work elsewhere, but America loses. Almost half the startups in Silicon Valley are begun by foreign born Americans.

 

Apple co founder is the son of an immigrant, Google founders are children of immigrants. Youtube, Sun Micro systems (who invented the Java programming language that today pervades the Web), Not mention the first Black president and the first orange president.

 

T

[pegman]

On August 8, 2017 at 7:54 PM, thehelmsman said:

The problem with addressing a comment is that you have no idea what I was addressing. The credibility of the USA declined during the Obama era. We remember him drawing lines in the sand and then backing up some more. Remember when the Chinese snubbed him when he arrived in China for the G20. He had to scurry out the back of the plane because the Chinese didn't even present him with stairs and the red carpet. And he just played it off. It's your right to see things through your own twisted view of things but don't insult others for not following suit. My view of Obama is that he was a joke to the rest of the world.

 

Have a nice day................I'm out of this little social circle.

Maybe you missed this:

http://www.pewglobal.org/2017/06/26/u-s-image-suffers-as-publics-around-world-question-trumps-leadership/