Jai Dee Posted December 27, 2006 Posted December 27, 2006 Secret military division deployed Cabinet approves funds of Bt556m for 14,000-strong force to control protests A secretive 14,000-man special operations force already deployed across the country with a mission to quell unrest was given funds of Bt556 million by the Cabinet yesterday. "The Council for National Security asked to have its own special force to maintain peace and the rule of law in our country. The endorsement was in line with the interim constitution," government spokesman Yongyuth Mayalarp said. The CNS asked the Cabinet to allocate Bt556 million from the central fund, he said. The CNS is expected to attract more criticism for using the fund after it was attacked for supplementing its salaries and placing military men at major state enterprises. The 13,625-strong force of the "Council for National Security's Special Operations Centre" were recruited from the armed forces and police, and are already stationed at undisclosed locations. The military has been citing "undercurrents", or activities by supporters of deposed premier Thaksin Shinawatra, as a political threat. It fears mass demonstrations to oust the CNS, which seized power from Thaksin's regime on September 19. The rapid deployment force began operating on December 1, and Yongyuth said it would be dissolved along with the CNS, tentatively on September 30 next year, which is the end of the fiscal year. The budget would cover 305 days of operations in total. The CNS has promised elections and a return to democracy by the end of 2007. Prime Minister Surayud Chula-nont refused to answer why the Cabinet approved the funding of a project after it had already started, which is contrary to PM's Office directives. CNS chief General Sonthi Boonyaratglin made an urgent proposal on December 19 for the money. Martial law, imposed a day after the putsch, remains in place across Thailand despite the government saying at the end of November that it would be lifted pending His Majesty the King's endorsement. Yongyuth said no Cabinet members questioned the use of the fund, which could be seen as awarding the forces extra allowances on top of their salaries. The funds would mostly go to pay for food, overtime, materials and supplies, vehicle maintenance and fuel, he said. "The forces have to stand by at one place so they are compensated for overtime and some officials are paid for monitoring political situations," he said. Expenses are also incurred for civic matters such as public relations, surveys and evaluations. Sonthi has assigned General Saprang Kalla-yanamit, assistant secretary-general of the CNS, as commander of the special operations centre. Source: The Nation - 27 December 2006 Taoism: shit happens Buddhism: if shit happens, it isn't really shit Islam: if shit happens, it is the will of Allah Catholicism: if shit happens, you deserve it Judaism: why does this shit always happen to us? Atheism: I don't believe this shit
astral Posted December 27, 2006 Posted December 27, 2006 Well, they are not secret any longer........
taxexile Posted December 27, 2006 Posted December 27, 2006 A secretive 14,000-man special operations force ...... ...........The 13,625-strong force Well, they are not secret any longer 375 of them still are.
londonthai Posted December 27, 2006 Posted December 27, 2006 there weren't any protests directly against the military rule since it took over the country and no protests are planned. so this secret police/militrary force is in fact a policital police aimed at the working class (that includes agricultural workers) unhappy with the political system in thailand
Tony Clifton Posted December 27, 2006 Posted December 27, 2006 The military has been citing "undercurrents", or activities by supporters of deposed premier Thaksin Shinawatra, as a political threat. It fears mass demonstrations to oust the CNS, which seized power from Thaksin's regime on September 19. Thaksin buzzing around, meetings in China, all the cases piling up against him. I always thought and still think that he's stirring sh!t from abroad. There's more to it than mass demonstrations.
brazil Posted December 27, 2006 Posted December 27, 2006 a 14000 member protection squad great! what a great advert for peace and prosperity in thailand for 2007 i mean if there anything like the police commandos, we might as well start calling this new 14000 squad "the death squad" i mean is the Air Chief Marshall such a frightening man to the powers that be!
britmaveric Posted December 27, 2006 Posted December 27, 2006 Snatch and grab in the middle of the night comes to mind.
OlRedEyes Posted December 27, 2006 Posted December 27, 2006 Prime Minister Surayud Chula-nont refused to answer why the Cabinet approved the funding of a project after it had already started, which is contrary to PM's Office directives. Deja vu or somesuch?
hammered Posted December 27, 2006 Posted December 27, 2006 The military has been citing "undercurrents", or activities by supporters of deposed premier Thaksin Shinawatra, as a political threat. It fears mass demonstrations to oust the CNS, which seized power from Thaksin's regime on September 19.Thaksin buzzing around, meetings in China, all the cases piling up against him. I always thought and still think that he's stirring sh!t from abroad. There's more to it than mass demonstrations. Yes rumors of paid for trips to China for TRT canvassers, mob organisers and influential figures have been doing the rounds for a while now.
Tony Clifton Posted December 27, 2006 Posted December 27, 2006 And if the interim government did not act by taking these measures, unecessary incidents or even a counter-coup organized by TRT's "yellow shirt wearing political chameleons" would surely take place. The costs are nothing compared to what the TRT crooks were ripping off from the country's coffers pre-sept.19th. Forget the death squads, that was Thaksin's era, if any left, they are unruly boys in brown that won't escape the upcoming overhaul of the joke that is most of the royal Thai police force.
farangsay Posted December 27, 2006 Posted December 27, 2006 A secretive 14,000-man special operations force ...... ...........The 13,625-strong force Well, they are not secret any longer 375 of them still are. :D
aaaaaa Posted December 27, 2006 Posted December 27, 2006 A secretive 14,000-man special operations force ...... ...........The 13,625-strong force Well, they are not secret any longer 375 of them still are. :D
brazil Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 And if the interim government did not act by taking these measures, unecessary incidents or even a counter-coup organized by TRT's "yellow shirt wearing political chameleons" would surely take place.The costs are nothing compared to what the TRT crooks were ripping off from the country's coffers pre-sept.19th. Forget the death squads, that was Thaksin's era, if any left, they are unruly boys in brown that won't escape the upcoming overhaul of the joke that is most of the royal Thai police force. the police commando death squads have been around for donkey' s years , way, way before TRT. so you think its a great idea for 14000 guys above the law to have their own rules and regulations against anyone they think is against the powers to be! You all must be MAAAD if you really cannot see the beginnings of chaos in this country, then you missed the last couple of coups, and how they began , and why? its always the same GREED and POWER it seems that foreigners just want to brown nose the new gov. to make them selves feel comfortable living in thailand. i for one will never ever stick up for any new gov. as thay are all CORRUPT in Thailand best to stay out of it and let the thai's work it out between themselves if a thai ever asks me about the political situation i just say "not my business to know or talk, its your country and your politics"
ilyushin Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 Sounds good to have a rapid deployment force ready. There might be a need for such forces to foil any Toxin Robs Thailand (TRT) party demonstrations or worse the return of the Box Top.
Tony Clifton Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 And if the interim government did not act by taking these measures, unecessary incidents or even a counter-coup organized by TRT's "yellow shirt wearing political chameleons" would surely take place.The costs are nothing compared to what the TRT crooks were ripping off from the country's coffers pre-sept.19th. Forget the death squads, that was Thaksin's era, if any left, they are unruly boys in brown that won't escape the upcoming overhaul of the joke that is most of the royal Thai police force. it seems that foreigners just want to brown nose the new gov. to make them selves feel comfortable living in thailand. So, according to that comment, prior to the coup, foreigners would all have been TRT brown nosers?
brazil Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 And if the interim government did not act by taking these measures, unecessary incidents or even a counter-coup organized by TRT's "yellow shirt wearing political chameleons" would surely take place.The costs are nothing compared to what the TRT crooks were ripping off from the country's coffers pre-sept.19th. Forget the death squads, that was Thaksin's era, if any left, they are unruly boys in brown that won't escape the upcoming overhaul of the joke that is most of the royal Thai police force. it seems that foreigners just want to brown nose the new gov. to make them selves feel comfortable living in thailand. So, according to that comment, prior to the coup, foreigners would all have been TRT brown nosers? foreigners are very much brown nosing this new gov. and the same on all other military backed gov.s of the past no body ever brown noses an elected gov. this new gov. is making some foreigners have their noses so far up the military's black hole if anybody knows the top guys in the military, fine, but i doubt not one of you making such lick kissing comments on the military actually knows any of the top guys, if you do, prove it!
Tony Clifton Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 And if the interim government did not act by taking these measures, unecessary incidents or even a counter-coup organized by TRT's "yellow shirt wearing political chameleons" would surely take place.The costs are nothing compared to what the TRT crooks were ripping off from the country's coffers pre-sept.19th. Forget the death squads, that was Thaksin's era, if any left, they are unruly boys in brown that won't escape the upcoming overhaul of the joke that is most of the royal Thai police force. it seems that foreigners just want to brown nose the new gov. to make them selves feel comfortable living in thailand. So, according to that comment, prior to the coup, foreigners would all have been TRT brown nosers? foreigners are very much brown nosing this new gov. and the same on all other military backed gov.s of the past no body ever brown noses an elected gov. this new gov. is making some foreigners have their noses so far up the military's black hole Funny, you bring to mind the previous government, TRT, and some Association of Foreigners in Siam. if anybody knows the top guys in the military, fine, but i doubt not one of you making such lick kissing comments on the military actually knows any of the top guys, if you do, prove it! That's usually Colpyat's job of claiming such things.
hammered Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 And if the interim government did not act by taking these measures, unecessary incidents or even a counter-coup organized by TRT's "yellow shirt wearing political chameleons" would surely take place.The costs are nothing compared to what the TRT crooks were ripping off from the country's coffers pre-sept.19th. Forget the death squads, that was Thaksin's era, if any left, they are unruly boys in brown that won't escape the upcoming overhaul of the joke that is most of the royal Thai police force. it seems that foreigners just want to brown nose the new gov. to make them selves feel comfortable living in thailand. So, according to that comment, prior to the coup, foreigners would all have been TRT brown nosers? foreigners are very much brown nosing this new gov. and the same on all other military backed gov.s of the past no body ever brown noses an elected gov. this new gov. is making some foreigners have their noses so far up the military's black hole if anybody knows the top guys in the military, fine, but i doubt not one of you making such lick kissing comments on the military actually knows any of the top guys, if you do, prove it! Actually quite a lot of people were spending so much time brown nosing the previous regime that all checks and balances failed.
aaaaaa Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 Well, they are not secret any longer........ my thought exactly! perhaps this special police division is to ensure the participation of people in the process of Constitution drafting and election next year ?
brazil Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 And if the interim government did not act by taking these measures, unecessary incidents or even a counter-coup organized by TRT's "yellow shirt wearing political chameleons" would surely take place.The costs are nothing compared to what the TRT crooks were ripping off from the country's coffers pre-sept.19th. Forget the death squads, that was Thaksin's era, if any left, they are unruly boys in brown that won't escape the upcoming overhaul of the joke that is most of the royal Thai police force. it seems that foreigners just want to brown nose the new gov. to make them selves feel comfortable living in thailand. So, according to that comment, prior to the coup, foreigners would all have been TRT brown nosers? foreigners are very much brown nosing this new gov. and the same on all other military backed gov.s of the past no body ever brown noses an elected gov. this new gov. is making some foreigners have their noses so far up the military's black hole Funny, you bring to mind the previous government, TRT, and some Association of Foreigners in Siam. if anybody knows the top guys in the military, fine, but i doubt not one of you making such lick kissing comments on the military actually knows any of the top guys, if you do, prove it! That's usually Colpyat's job of claiming such things. not one of you brown nosing the new gov. can prove that you know any of the top brass at the army cannot wait for the next brown nosing comment on the millitary from people who havent a clue happy new year hope you can use some gel to get those heads out of the armies black hole
aaaaaa Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 well well well , story never ends - previously there was hardly any post on TV without Thaksin bashing. now - without bashing of army and imposed by them government. I bet it will be the common trend always, no matter what govbernment it is or who is PM. seriously - what you've expected? that once Thaksin is ousted - it will become a Golden Age in Thailand as in Ramakiana, during rule of legendary King Rama? or at least as those fair kings of Sukhotayi and Ayudhaya (or was it Angor?), when any citizen could come with complain to King, ring the bell outside the gate and demand personal attendence and be fuly cinfident that he will be not only granted that personal attendence, but his case will be resolved? no matter who is in power - there will always be a lot of reasons to bash him/ them !
hammered Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 well well well , story never ends - previously there was hardly any post on TV without Thaksin bashing. now - without bashing of army and imposed by them government. I bet it will be the common trend always, no matter what govbernment it is or who is PM.seriously - what you've expected? that once Thaksin is ousted - it will become a Golden Age in Thailand as in Ramakiana, during rule of legendary King Rama? or at least as those fair kings of Sukhotayi and Ayudhaya (or was it Angor?), when any citizen could come with complain to King, ring the bell outside the gate and demand personal attendence and be fuly cinfident that he will be not only granted that personal attendence, but his case will be resolved? no matter who is in power - there will always be a lot of reasons to bash him/ them ! truth in that. There are also always government supporters too. It doesnt matter who or what they are or how they were selected.
brazil Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 well well well , story never ends - previously there was hardly any post on TV without Thaksin bashing. now - without bashing of army and imposed by them government. I bet it will be the common trend always, no matter what govbernment it is or who is PM.seriously - what you've expected? that once Thaksin is ousted - it will become a Golden Age in Thailand as in Ramakiana, during rule of legendary King Rama? or at least as those fair kings of Sukhotayi and Ayudhaya (or was it Angor?), when any citizen could come with complain to King, ring the bell outside the gate and demand personal attendence and be fuly cinfident that he will be not only granted that personal attendence, but his case will be resolved? no matter who is in power - there will always be a lot of reasons to bash him/ them ! so you are a brown nose army kind a guy all of us who are not thai should stay out of siding with such strong comments its not our business thats the whole point we are merely a visitor to this Kingdom
hammered Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 well well well , story never ends - previously there was hardly any post on TV without Thaksin bashing. now - without bashing of army and imposed by them government. I bet it will be the common trend always, no matter what govbernment it is or who is PM.seriously - what you've expected? that once Thaksin is ousted - it will become a Golden Age in Thailand as in Ramakiana, during rule of legendary King Rama? or at least as those fair kings of Sukhotayi and Ayudhaya (or was it Angor?), when any citizen could come with complain to King, ring the bell outside the gate and demand personal attendence and be fuly cinfident that he will be not only granted that personal attendence, but his case will be resolved? no matter who is in power - there will always be a lot of reasons to bash him/ them ! so you are a brown nose army kind a guy all of us who are not thai should stay out of siding with such strong comments its not our business thats the whole point we are merely a visitor to this Kingdom Think if you check you will find yourself wrong thereabout aaaa. What is with the insults anyway? You could have made yuor quite reasonable point without resorting to trying to insult people. Peace
pumpuiman Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 This force is there to make sure the people "Think right" We should all thank the military for showing us how to think properly. And Thaksin is gone. People who compare the present government to the previous will always find fault. The present military dictatorship should be judged on it's own.
londonthai Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 I bet it will be the common trend always, no matter what govbernment it is or who is PM.no matter who is in power - there will always be a lot of reasons to bash him/ them ! quite rightly: all government and all policians do represent the ruling class and acting on it's behalf (by the apparatus of oppresion: police, army, secret services as well as by law and state administration) - to controll the working classes and quash any dissent
hammered Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 I bet it will be the common trend always, no matter what govbernment it is or who is PM.no matter who is in power - there will always be a lot of reasons to bash him/ them ! quite rightly: all government and all policians do represent the ruling class and acting on it's behalf (by the apparatus of oppresion: police, army, secret services as well as by law and state administration) - to controll the working classes and quash any dissent True
aaaaaa Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 I bet it will be the common trend always, no matter what govbernment it is or who is PM.no matter who is in power - there will always be a lot of reasons to bash him/ them ! quite rightly: all government and all policians do represent the ruling class and acting on it's behalf (by the apparatus of oppresion: police, army, secret services as well as by law and state administration) - to controll the working classes and quash any dissent exactly ! I'm reading Ludlum's "Road to Omaha" nowdays. so, using words of Mac Hawk: "... and unseen, unelected government behind our government ...." Thaksin was out not because of corruption, well, at least not ONLY because of it as a main reason - but because he's disturbed the "nornets nest", tried to stir up that layer of those who "order the music" around here. it was surprising tha he could last that long at all! and less surprising that he's been using all the very same tatics and methods for goverence. it has been done so for decades before him. and yes - it is not only here in Thailand, but more or less everywhere else. ony in some countries it is not that obvious because those "behind" cover their tracks much better.
Johpa Posted December 30, 2006 Posted December 30, 2006 I am sorry to say this, but I doubt a force of the size quoted has much to do with pro-Taksin or anti-coup political activities. I fear it is a harbinger of bad news for the Kingdom. It is the logical next step for the reasons many think were behind the coup to begin with. Again, entirely speculation on my part, but it fits the pattern.
brazil Posted December 30, 2006 Posted December 30, 2006 well well well , story never ends - previously there was hardly any post on TV without Thaksin bashing. now - without bashing of army and imposed by them government. I bet it will be the common trend always, no matter what govbernment it is or who is PM.seriously - what you've expected? that once Thaksin is ousted - it will become a Golden Age in Thailand as in Ramakiana, during rule of legendary King Rama? or at least as those fair kings of Sukhotayi and Ayudhaya (or was it Angor?), when any citizen could come with complain to King, ring the bell outside the gate and demand personal attendence and be fuly cinfident that he will be not only granted that personal attendence, but his case will be resolved? no matter who is in power - there will always be a lot of reasons to bash him/ them ! so you are a brown nose army kind a guy all of us who are not thai should stay out of siding with such strong comments its not our business thats the whole point we are merely a visitor to this Kingdom Think if you check you will find yourself wrong thereabout aaaa. What is with the insults anyway? You could have made yuor quite reasonable point without resorting to trying to insult people. Peace you are correct my comments were asserted to those who always take sides in thailands politics my point was made far earlier in the thread these are becoming interesting times in thailand the smokescreen in september is diminishing rapidly i read aaaa's last statement and that of johpa of two people coming very close to the forbidden land of which we dare not speak and fully understand this train of thought after all this is still a Kingdom
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