dunroaming Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 4 hours ago, HooHaa said: the US is a diverse place, believe it or not there remain pockets of good Yes there are many good parts of the USA and some great people and role models. We tend to hear about the bad side with mass shootings and racist attacks and it's the scale of these things that shock. I know that many posters on TV will have children in Thai schools because Thailand is where they live and they have little choice. We moved to the UK for our son's education and before then he went to an international school which was useless as well. We all want the best for our children but often have different views of what that is.
louse1953 Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 5 hours ago, Orton Rd said: One of the worst aspects of Thai society is this feudal hierarchical social system of bowing down and respecting people not on ability or worth but on position and money. These days I do not buy into it and never wai back and never wai anyone, none of them deserve it anyway. Just power tripping bully
Orton Rd Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 2 hours ago, sanukjim said: This "IS" and has "ALWAYS" been the culture practice of Thais from years ago ages.They learn from a very early age by observing others that when you have the advantage of rank,status,or position that the one considered higher up not only can abuse others but must from time to time exercise this "Right". That is why you see the two sets of laws here today and the "Do you know who my father is" syndrome.You see this all over Asia in the abuse of maids and house servants as the employer see it those that have to work for him or her are to be treated as such. because it is so.This idea is slowly evaporating but still slowly. As Trink pointed out TIT No it has not always been part of Thai culture, a certain very wise personage who probably cannot be named here outlawed prostration in the 19th cent, grovelling ended then but was brought back in more recent times.
wakeupplease Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 5 hours ago, steven100 said: alot worse than that happens in US schools .... Why are you comparing the US to here The story is about what happens here and what happened In the US they can do a like on an independent FB, here you dare not, never see you commenting on the freedom issue. Looks like another one who is missing home and cannot go back.
ttrd Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 6 hours ago, steven100 said: alot worse than that happens in US schools .... You seems to have forgot those yearly gun masacre incidents at schools in the US... I believe those Schools would rather prefere "graap thao" incidents - dont you think...??...;)
Catkiwi Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 Nothing to see here folks, move along....these sort of shenanigans have been going on for ever. I remember girls scrapping at school during my brief stint in the education system. I still volunteer to do the naughty girls spanking though...
IAMHERE Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 4 hours ago, Bluespunk said: Good job we are not there then and this story has nothing to do with the USA. Seems there are many that just can not stop from slagging the US at any opportunity, good or bad.
fakename Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 So as usual, the school wants to hush up things, cant have a school loosing face!
IAMHERE Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 I wonder if this was real. Could well be set up between the two for Facebook or to embarrass the school. Fake news Fake confrontation, theatrics for social media.
soalbundy Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 26 minutes ago, IAMHERE said: I wonder if this was real. Could well be set up between the two for Facebook or to embarrass the school. Fake news Fake confrontation, theatrics for social media. Hello Donald
TEFLKrabi Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 Real Life experience. One day one of my Thai professors took me aside and said: "You don't have to wai me every time we see, not necessary, a friendly smile and hello is enough"Agree but the original quote was about someone refusing to wai anyone. Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
wvavin Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 The main cause of such behaviour is education, be it home or school.
johnnywishbone Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 9 hours ago, HooHaa said: im glad my kid is in the US studying. serious social issues here. 9 hours ago, HooHaa said: im glad my kid is in the US studying. serious social issues here. I hated school in the US. Southern California. 9th grade was last year. i am helping one girl university Khon Kaen. Accounting degree. Hope it's not a waste of time and money.
Bastos60 Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 Bullying is something that exists all over the world. What we sometimes see in the news about bullies, even in my own country just blows my mind. I have seen both sides, but I actually never backed down from a bully and they eventually just gave up as it was to much effort to try to get me down and not get hit themselves.
Retiredandhappyhere Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 9 hours ago, dotpoom said: To the best of my knowledge.....bullies exist in all countries and in all walks of life. In that case, why don't we discuss the bullying that goes on in somewhere like Jamaica, since bullying in Thailand seems to hold no interest for you.
onthesoi Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Retiredandhappyhere said: In that case, why don't we discuss the bullying that goes on in somewhere like Jamaica, since bullying in Thailand seems to hold no interest for you. Discussing bullying in Thailand is fine, the actual bone of contention was the assertion that bullies dont exist in other countries or that its somehow worse in Thailand. Edited June 1, 2017 by onthesoi
Retiredandhappyhere Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 I failed to see anyone making such an assertion. Criticising Thais for bullying incidents in no way implies that they do not occur elsewhere. We are in Thailand, are we not?
sanukjim Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 5 hours ago, Orton Rd said: No it has not always been part of Thai culture, a certain very wise personage who probably cannot be named here outlawed prostration in the 19th cent, grovelling ended then but was brought back in more recent times. Hey read the article,This is not about" prostration" which is the( lack of energy or power) but taking advantage of ones perceived position.
steven100 Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 11 hours ago, wakeupplease said: Why are you comparing the US to here The story is about what happens here and what happened In the US they can do a like on an independent FB, here you dare not, never see you commenting on the freedom issue. Looks like another one who is missing home and cannot go back. If you read the complete thread comments you will see I was answering someone comment that ' I'm glad my child goes to a US school '
NCFC Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 this is Thailand - they wai they don't shake hands. This isn't you're home country and you are a guest here.What sort of host expects guests to crawl on their hands and knees before them?
Dexlowe Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 10 minutes ago, NCFC said: What sort of host expects guests to crawl on their hands and knees before them? Huh? Where does that happen? I've seen it in royal/religious situations, and I've seen it with household servant situations (left me in a funk for years). But I can't recall this kind of grovelling between a host and guests. Sick obsequiousness, sure.
LomSak27 Posted June 2, 2017 Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) 15 hours ago, starky said: Yeah unlike the US. Zero social issues there. No bullies or suicides or kids shooting up high schools like in Thailand, thank god. Wish I could live or study in the US where everything is so perfect and unlike Thailand Ah, lets take the piss out of the yank and what fun. If you can put down your Leo for a second, I know of four families who have done the same. From the US, but one from the UK, all want their kids schooled in a non thai school. Yes I bet a more rigorous education, but as important is different cultural values. One of which is spelled out in the Original Post/News Article; shock, gasp, horror! Edited June 2, 2017 by LomSak27
maximillian Posted June 2, 2017 Posted June 2, 2017 18 hours ago, HooHaa said: im glad my kid is in the US studying. serious social issues here. It's hopefully a good school there for your kid. Remember, there are good schools in Thailand as well. Or did you refer to Thai students behaviour vs. US students behaviour ? Well, good luck anyway.
Grumpy Duck Posted June 2, 2017 Posted June 2, 2017 18 hours ago, G Marks said: I would lose my sh1t if it were my daughter, her parents would cop the full wrath and not the kid of course. Chances the elder girl is from a wealthier family. Perhaps believes all with less status should kiss her feet.
YetAnother Posted June 2, 2017 Posted June 2, 2017 yes it is pathetic; we do however need to know the place in which we choose to live
freebyrd Posted June 2, 2017 Posted June 2, 2017 What the hell has happened to these once gentle and generous people? I'm glad I left when I did.
J Smith Posted June 2, 2017 Posted June 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Grumpy Duck said: Chances the elder girl is from a wealthier family. Perhaps believes all with less status should kiss her feet. Or just an utter pr1ck
transam Posted June 2, 2017 Posted June 2, 2017 9 minutes ago, freebyrd said: What the hell has happened to these once gentle and generous people? I'm glad I left when I did. They watch Thai soaps............
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