UK opposition leader Corbyn: "difficult" talks needed with Saudis after London attack

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UK opposition leader Corbyn: "difficult" talks needed with Saudis after London attack

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Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of Britain's opposition Labour Party, arrives to deliver a speech in Carlisle, England, Britain June 4, 2017. REUTERS/Andrew Yates

 

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain needs to have "difficult conversations" with Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states about the funding of Islamist extremism, opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn said on Sunday, resuming his election campaign after a deadly attack in London.

 

The Labour party leader, who is hoping to win Thursday's national election, said the vote should go ahead to show democracy would not be halted by the London Bridge attack that left seven dead and 48 injured.

 

Earlier, Prime Minister Theresa May called for a stronger response to Islamist extremism after three knife-wielding assailants drove a hired van into pedestrians on London Bridge and stabbed others nearby.

 

Corbyn said Britain's democratic values must be maintained.

 

"We must resist Islamophobia and division and turn out on 8 June united in our determination to show our democracy is strong," Corbyn said in the text of a speech due to be delivered in Carlisle, north England.

 

"And, yes, we do need to have some difficult conversations starting with Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states that have funded and fuelled extremist ideology."

 

He attacked May for cutting police numbers during her tenure as interior minister and repeated his pledge to recruit 10,000 new police officers, including armed officers.

 

Opinion polls have shown Corbyn's Labour catching up fast with May's Conservative Party, putting into doubt her gamble that a snap election would boost her majority.

 

Last month U.S. President Donald Trump urged Arab and Islamic leaders to unite and do their share to defeat Islamist extremists, making an impassioned plea to "drive out" terrorists, while toning down his own harsh rhetoric about Muslims.

 

(Reporting by Andy Bruce; Editing by William James)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-06-05

[ezzra]

Says the man who want to be the next PM:

 

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has stirred condemnation and disbelief from members of his own party after it was revealed he attended a graveside wreath-laying ceremony honoring a Palestinian terrorist involved in the 1972 Munich Olympics massacre......

 

 

[colinneil]

Corbyn you 2 faced clown.

Difficult talks needed with the Saudis.

This from the terrorists friend, IRA/ PLO.

[champers]

So how was the conflict in Northern Ireland resolved? It was jaw jaw, not war war. If we stopped selling weapons to the Saudis, that would be a decent start.

[phantomfiddler]

This fool has his head in the sand, arab sand !

[brewsterbudgen]

Well the policies of this and previous governments are not keeping us safe. I hope he gets the chance, although I fear it will be unlikely.

[than]

But but But, did not Mr TRUMP claim during his visit to Saudi Arabia, a great bastion of democracy and women's rights in this region, that Iran was the country that endured terrorism?
Mr Corbyn risks reserving a vindictive tweet from our American twist rectifier, Donald.

Oh yes, there is one at the White House who is mistaken in enemy: ISIS is Sunni (like Saudi Arabia, Qatar etc. ...) contrary to Iran which is Shiite.

[stander]

Jeremy Corbyn faced outrage last night after it was revealed a leading supporter had described Islamic terrorists as ‘freedom fighters’.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4569478/Leading-Corbyn-activist-terrorists-freedom-fighters.html#ixzz4j5XRYflw 
 

[Emster23]

"... we do need to have some difficult conversations starting with Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states that have funded and fuelled extremist ideology." "

 They bankroll those madrasa schools that teach "kill the infidels".

Corbyn does have much to answer for regarding IRA etc, but in this case he is one of the few recognizing the elephant in the room. Not tough guy Donald who breathed nary a word about SA being home of world wide indoctrination for radical Islam.

[dexterm]

"And, yes, we do need to have some difficult conversations starting with Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states that have funded and fuelled extremist ideology."

 

Corbyn is spot on. But the  petro$$ of these corrupt regimes seems to make  Trump and May strangely mute.

[darksidedog]

Some difficult talks probably need to be had with many people, but it is May that is going to be holding them, not this loser.

[spacebass]

2 hours ago, ezzra said:

Says the man who want to be the next PM:

 

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has stirred condemnation and disbelief from members of his own party after it was revealed he attended a graveside wreath-laying ceremony honoring a Palestinian terrorist involved in the 1972 Munich Olympics massacre......

 

 

Link?

[Orac]

"And, yes, we do need to have some difficult conversations starting with Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states that have funded and fuelled extremist ideology."
 
Corbyn is spot on. But the  petro$$ of these corrupt regimes seems to make  Trump and May strangely mute.

Maybe TM should release the report she commissioned on this a couple of years ago as home secretary rather than sit on it until after the election.

[pegman]

7 minutes ago, darksidedog said:

Some difficult talks probably need to be had with many people, but it is May that is going to be holding them, not this loser.

One point difference in the latest non-Murdock/Sun poll. Not one word from May or her bud Trump about Gulf (Wahhabi) States' sponsors of Islamist Terrorism. Their friends in the munitions industries wouldn't approve apparently. Too much blood money to be made. 

[helpisgood]

30 minutes ago, spacebass said:

Link?

Just googled it.  I have so far only just read the Jerusalem Post's report:

 

http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Uproar-over-Corbyn-visit-to-grave-of-Palestinian-terrorist-from-Munich-attack-494217

 

That paper states that Corbin "...reportedly traveled to Tunisia in October 2014 to visit the grave of Atef Bseiso, the former head of intelligence for the Palestine Liberation Organization and direct accomplice involved in the Munich terrorist attack."

 

Of course, we have to consider that the Post may, or likely, be biased.  Also, the Post was careful to use the modifier "reportedly."  No reliable sources or records?  Since it supposed to have happened in only back in 2014 and in Tunisia, surely there must be records of Corbin making such an international trip. 

 

I really don't know for sure if this is true or not.  This is the first time I have heard of this.  However, I am willing to guess that the Israelis would very much more prefer May as PM.  So, I'd like to see more before I believe it. 

 

 

Edited June 5, 2017 by helpisgood
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[kamahele]

3 hours ago, ezzra said:

Says the man who want to be the next PM:

 

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has stirred condemnation and disbelief from members of his own party after it was revealed he attended a graveside wreath-laying ceremony honoring a Palestinian terrorist involved in the 1972 Munich Olympics massacre......

 

 

Because he might have done what you claim, although I haven't seen any evidence of it, does not make his statement about the Saudi's incorrect.

[lamecn]

 

[mjef]

How about this, stop signing billion-dollar arms deals with Saudi Arabia in the first place!

[Khun Han]

3 hours ago, dexterm said:

"And, yes, we do need to have some difficult conversations starting with Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states that have funded and fuelled extremist ideology."

 

Corbyn is spot on. But the  petro$$ of these corrupt regimes seems to make  Trump and May strangely mute.

 

Corbyn wouldn't even fart in the company of these globalist sickos if we were unfortunate enough to have him representing us.

[Khun Han]

4 minutes ago, mjef said:

How about this, stop signing billion-dollar arms deals with Saudi Arabia in the first place!

 

These deals happen because people more powerful than elected governments want them to happen.

[Krataiboy]

The UK has made 10 times more in arms sales to Saudi Arabia than it's given in aid to Yemen

Similarly, the US sold a record amount of arms to Saudi Arabia under Obama’s administration, with sales set to continue under Trump. Earlier this month the State Department approved a resumption in the $300m sale of US-made precision-guided missiles, a deal blocked late in Obama’s administration due to concerns over civilian casualties

 

The little gem above, from the March 22 issue of the Independent, says it all. While politicians of all parties weep crocodile tears for the victims of the Assad regime, we cynically ramp up our arms sales to the loathsome regime running Saudi Arabia - by far the world's biggest backers of Islamic extremist terrorism.

 

How about a few real tears from our venal political masters - Corbyn included - for more than 10,000 Yemeni civilians mercilessly massacred in bombing raids by Saudi warplanes and weapons supplied with the blessing of the Uncle Sam and his limey political Limey lapdogs ?

 

Watching how Labour's leader - a nuclear disarmament advocate - squirmed, ducked and dived when asked in a television interview whether or not he would be prepared to use the UK's nuclear deterrent, one can all too easily imagine how he would perform in a faceoff with the butchers of Riyadh.

 

It won't happen, of course -  and he knows it. Corbyn and the rest of the Commons crew are all well aware that the Saudis are key to the US strategy achieving regime change in Syria and in the longer term Iran. And while the White House is happy, tails will keep wagging at Westminster.

[dick dasterdly]

4 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Well the policies of this and previous governments are not keeping us safe. I hope he gets the chance, although I fear it will be unlikely.

I've been out of the UK for too long and so don't know enough to hold an opinion on (most) politicians.

 

Nonetheless, I gather the vast majority of Labour supporters support brexit - and also that he wasn't overly enthusiastic about the EU previously?

 

So why did he decide to support remain - other than for political reasons that benefit him personally?

 

Back on topic - I agree with him that its time to address the Saudi 'problem'.

[pegman]

Spot on, I hope he is the next PM of the u k. We need a world leader to go after the state sponsors of Sunni terrorist groups. That clown Trump said today they needed more guns in London. I guess those 5 dead cops  in Dallas last year didn't have guns when that nut exercising his 2nd amendment rights  killed them.

[pegman]

7 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

I've been out of the UK for too long and so don't know enough to hold an opinion on (most) politicians.

 

Nonetheless, I gather the vast majority of Labour supporters support brexit - and also that he wasn't overly enthusiastic about the EU previously?

 

So why did he decide to support remain - other than for political reasons that benefit him personally?

 

Back on topic - I agree with him that its time to address the Saudi 'problem'.

The Westminster Parlimentary tradition is when the party makes a decision on a major issue you back the party otherwise sit as an independent. You are right about his Saudi remarks. 

[Baerboxer]

5 hours ago, champers said:

So how was the conflict in Northern Ireland resolved? It was jaw jaw, not war war. If we stopped selling weapons to the Saudis, that would be a decent start.

 

No it wouldn't. Because other nations, such as the USA, France, Germany, Sweden, Switzerland, Russia, China etc would be only too pleased to fill the void.

 

Northern was a localized issue. The IRA were quick to realize that when Bush declared war on terrorists and terrorist groups, they'd be on that list. No tacit American support, no Noraid, etc. They'd become enemies of the US. Time for them to talk. The current terrorist attacks are an international phenomenon driven by religious fanatics who believe they are doing the work of god in trying to ensure the whole world is dominated by what they consider religion. Do you think they'd give a fig about talking?

 

Corbyn is deluded. An apologist for all things British and history, he thinks fawning over them and pandering to all their demands would stop the violence. It might, until they want something different or more. Radicalized lunatics who readily give their lives for their cause - sure they're going to listen to some Marxist socialist who promises everything to everyone.

[Baerboxer]

6 minutes ago, pegman said:

Spot on, I hope he is the next PM of the u k. We need a world leader to go after the state sponsors of Sunni terrorist groups. That clown Trump said today they needed more guns in London. I guess those 5 dead cops  in Dallas last year didn't have guns when that nut exercising his 2nd amendment rights  killed them.

 

Corbyn - a world leader 

[Baerboxer]

8 minutes ago, pegman said:

Spot on, I hope he is the next PM of the u k. We need a world leader to go after the state sponsors of Sunni terrorist groups. That clown Trump said today they needed more guns in London. I guess those 5 dead cops  in Dallas last year didn't have guns when that nut exercising his 2nd amendment rights  killed them.

 

Of course no need to address the sponsors of Shi'ite terrorism. Nope, their politically correct terrorists. And might even be socialists!

 

Usual Labor and Corbyn hypocrisy.

[Baerboxer]

13 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

I've been out of the UK for too long and so don't know enough to hold an opinion on (most) politicians.

 

Nonetheless, I gather the vast majority of Labour supporters support brexit - and also that he wasn't overly enthusiastic about the EU previously?

 

So why did he decide to support remain - other than for political reasons that benefit him personally?

 

Back on topic - I agree with him that its time to address the Saudi 'problem'.

 

Because he's a two faced lying hypocritical politician who'll do or say anything to get in power. Watch him change if he ever did and chuck out the manifesto as quickly as he could.

[Flustered]

Jeremy Corbyn, a man who makes Vidkun Quisling look like a freedom fighter.

 

Anyone supporting his views on security should be looked upon with contempt.

[janclaes47]

4 hours ago, helpisgood said:

4 hours ago, spacebass said:

Link?

Just googled it.  I have so far only just read the Jerusalem Post's report:

 

http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Uproar-over-Corbyn-visit-to-grave-of-Palestinian-terrorist-from-Munich-attack-494217

 

That paper states that Corbin "...reportedly traveled to Tunisia in October 2014 to visit the grave of Atef Bseiso, the former head of intelligence for the Palestine Liberation Organization and direct accomplice involved in the Munich terrorist attack."

 

Of course, we have to consider that the Post may, or likely, be biased.  Also, the Post was careful to use the modifier "reportedly."  No reliable sources or records?  Since it supposed to have happened in only back in 2014 and in Tunisia, surely there must be records of Corbin making such an international trip. 

 

I really don't know for sure if this is true or not.  This is the first time I have heard of this.  However, I am willing to guess that the Israelis would very much more prefer May as PM.  So, I'd like to see more before I believe it. 

 

I think this is the video in question

 

 

Well forget it, this f***ng new TV software

 

https://www.facebook.com/pg/deusvultnow/videos/

 

Edited June 5, 2017 by janclaes47