bangrak Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Eric Loh said: Samat was not "replaced" but force to resigned by the constitution court because of a cooking show. Many called that bizarre verdict. One family political party because the elites and the military continue to plot and have them removed. BTW is Ahbisit 12 years as party leader consider as a dynasty. Fortunately he was allowed to be leader for such a long time. Really not something the 'original' Eric Loh would have written (in better english...): he would know that another member of the Vejjajiva family, a full brother of Mr Abhisit, has an important function inside the PTP (as theorician and tactician?), or does he no more...? So, 'dynasty' you wrote? Tread carefully, LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 3 hours ago, bizboi said: …not!! and how are you so sure? a crystal pair of balls perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizboi Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Just now, observer90210 said: and how are you so sure? a crystal pair of balls perhaps? At least I’ve got a pair!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizboi Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, Father Fintan Stack said: No different than any other rich Thai family with the patriarch at the head. Your point caller? just more corrupt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) ...When it's about a familiy member, I wonder what could have been whispered in the ear of Thaksin's older sister, for her not to want the head prize for herself, and push aside anyone standing in her way... Already seeing lil' Yingluck getting the salad bowl instead of herself once in the past was obviously hard for her to digest, but, even this time, not having been chosen? But, hey, maybe Mrs Monthatip was a better choice, not only for the looks/appearance, but, who knows, because Thaksin could have been afraid that his dominant(!) older sister could have wanted to lead the party, for real, instead of him, or 'the master' is having other plans for her (the UDD?)... Edited July 12, 2017 by bangrak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Just now, bizboi said: just more corrupt? Not even a good comparison, 99% of rich Thai families don't own and totally control and pay the monthly salaries of a political party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 1 minute ago, bangrak said: ...When it's about a familiy member, I wonder what could have been whispered in the ear of Thaksin's older sister, for her not to want the head prize for herself, and push aside anyone standing in her way... Already seeing lil' Yingluck getting the salad bowl instead of herself once in the past was obviously hard for her to digest, but, even this time, not having been chosen? But, hey, maybe Mrs Monthatip was a better choice, not only for the looks/appearance, but, who knows, because Thaksin could have been afraid of that his dominant(!) older sister could have wanted to, really, lead the party, instead of him, or 'the master' is having other plans for her (the UDD?)... And it would seem the paymaster has no concern about having another puppet and this with a record. She would be well advised to beware of being thrown under the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizboi Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Come on Junta just pass the law “No member of the Shinawatra family can be involved in Thai politics” then NORMAL people can sleep well and you can stand down!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizboi Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, scorecard said: Not even a good comparison, 99% of rich Thai families don't own and totally control and pay the monthly salaries of a political party. Yes absolutely right then theres all the extra expenses like grenades and buying off the press and hiring blackshirt guards from Cambodia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Father Fintan Stack said: No different than any other rich Thai family with the patriarch at the head. Your point caller? The Shinawatra (then: Coshun) family 'patriarch' goes way back, Thaksin might be the present 'leader', but a 'patriarch'...? Or maybe you are better informed about what's really happening inside the 'clan' of the tandem Shinawatra + Damapong families... Edited July 12, 2017 by bangrak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizboi Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Father Fintan Stack said: I prefer a law where expats can't comment on topics they know nothing about. All pure speculation at the moment. Getting the obsessives worked up again though I see. ….but you seem to post quite regularly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 24 minutes ago, Father Fintan Stack said: Abhisit is a full on Chuan Leekpai disciple. One of the many reasons he remains unelectable. And Chuan Leepkai had no reason to tell what he regretted the most was to have raised a viper under his wing, talking about a certain Thaksin he had groomed for many years inside the DP, after Thaksin's father and uncle Damapong, both DP MPs(!) had pushed him so hard to do, before the whole family betrayed him, and the DP... A rogue one it might have become in the end, but you can't have more of a Chuan 'disciple' than Mr Thaksin himself... (PS: the healthcare plan Thaksin is so famed for having thought out and introduced, was in fact already perfectly worked out by the last Chuan Government, and was totally ready to be introduced, as soon as the DP would have won the next election, but they lost to...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 28 minutes ago, bizboi said: just more corrupt? http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2010/11/thailands_political_parties Problem is the Dem keep getting free passes for their corruption and illegal donations from rich families and corporations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 For those who may be interested, a short overview of Thaksin's familly tree here: http://www.newmandala.org/the-shinawatra-family-tree/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 4 hours ago, bizboi said: Many think the junta has performed considerably better than Yinglucks Pheu thai EVER did!! many is not most....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 7 hours ago, NanLaew said: This sentence should have been prefaced by, "Unlike virtually all currently involved with actively running the country, ..." well, and all others are angels...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 7 hours ago, NanLaew said: This sentence should have been prefaced by, "Unlike virtually all currently involved with actively running the country, ..." 6 hours ago, Baerboxer said: I think it was moving forward under Thaksin - right to the cliff's edge. Had PTP/Thaksin got their hands on the 2.2 trillion baht loan they were planning, and taken it off budget and away from parliamentary scrutiny, accountability, and with themselves totally managing it. as the also wanted............ well I'm sure you could imagining where most of it would have ended up! Yingluck said at the time when questioned about wanting it off budget "just trust us". Would you? give me a break....what about Prayuth's brother??? Only non convicted by support of his powerful brother. Or Suthep. same same. So don't come with old stories. And.....what is the relevance of your points in terms of leadership of PTP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 6 hours ago, speedtripler said: There is 8 of them and one of him... And all 8 probably have adult children that can step up if necessary yeah, I like the idea of never ending Shinawatra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 6 hours ago, Baerboxer said: The question is will yet another Shiniwattra, suddenly thrust into the limelight, with no previous political experience, be any better than the last one. Will she really be the leader and PM or simply a channel, puppet if you will, for her criminal brother who owns the party and pays it's MP's a salary? Please stop pretending that I support some faction strongly as an attempt to discredit opinions. It only makes your posts look insecure. I don't. But nor do I pretend others are better when they are simply out for all they can get themselves regardless of ethics, honesty or consequences; and quite happy to break laws to do so. You are funny..... Your soldier got experience ? And what has Montha to do with her brother's mistakes? NOTHING ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 3 hours ago, robblok said: They don't have an other choice.. they don't want to vote democrat.. so they vote PTP no matter what devil is in charge. Now if they had a saying in who led the party things might be different. or just not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said: give me a break....what about Prayuth's brother??? Only non convicted by support of his powerful brother. Or Suthep. same same. So don't come with old stories. And.....what is the relevance of your points in terms of leadership of PTP? "...So don't come with old stories. ..." What an ironic statement, don't forget to give that line to your ilk. 24 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said: You are funny..... Your soldier got experience ? And what has Montha to do with her brother's mistakes? NOTHING ! What about her own mistakes - have you searched her history? Edited July 12, 2017 by scorecard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said: yeah, I like the idea of never ending Shinawatra Well I guess you enjoy punishment? Up to you. Edited July 12, 2017 by scorecard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 14 hours ago, webfact said: Monthathip has been tipped to become Pheu Thai’s next PM candidate as it is likely that Yingluck may be stripped of her right to contest an election if she is found guilty in the case OMG ; a possible YluckII ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 51 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said: many is not most....... Just like many thought Thaksin's cohorts did well, many is not most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phycokiller Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Im totally against the unsayable in power now, but if this is the best they can do Im all for them staying on until this family has died out. its just going to lead to another coup when they try to get taxin into the country again, which they will. why does thailand have to be ruled by morons. maybe a civil war is really the best solution, at least it might kill a few off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, phycokiller said: Im totally against the unsayable in power now, but if this is the best they can do Im all for them staying on until this family has died out. its just going to lead to another coup when they try to get taxin into the country again, which they will. why does thailand have to be ruled by morons. maybe a civil war is really the best solution, at least it might kill a few off bit extreme but there is a point in there somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Oh good grief. Has Thaksin learned nothing from the last fiasco? If true, this will only serve to entrench the military and guarantee a prolonged stay in power, and likely a good reason for Prayut to declare that things are not stable, so there cannot be an election next year, or anytime in the foreseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Eric Loh said: http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2010/11/thailands_political_parties Problem is the Dem keep getting free passes for their corruption and illegal donations from rich families and corporations. illegal donations from rich families - like paying MPs to toe the party line, as set by the man paying the bribes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esprit Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 And so they should as they have shown that they are the only competent party economically. Under TS they paid back the IMF early, the only country in the world to do so. Still the only democratically elected party to have twice been over thrown by the military. Is it any wonder the world now views Thailand, and other ASEAN members states, as a pariah state ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 10 minutes ago, Father Fintan Stack said: Not to mention TS was the only PM to ever in Thai history to serve a full term, and the only PM to be re-elected. Remarkable achievements. At what costs to TS, in Baht or $US will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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