Cletus Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, observer90210 said: Fully agree...I deleted my FB account almost 6 years ago....if I need to communicate free of charge from one part of the world to the other I either use wassUp or faceTime and works fine... but your records may still be there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthperson Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 1 minute ago, KhonKaenKowboy said: You must not have experience with UAL. Correct -- No one in their right mind would fly with that crap US outfit. Example ! "In July of 2017, the airline came under fire for giving away a toddler's seat on a flight from Houston to Boston, which led the toddler to sit on the mother's lap throughout the flight" The seat had been bought and paid for ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 20 minutes ago, KhonKaenKowboy said: Lufthansa made me sign a document online, stating that I would be responsible for all fees involved in my return, if I was denied entry for any and all reasons. First time for that in thirteen trips, have had to show visa before....once the fat pig at UAL was trying to deny me because I was changing planes in Beijing and didn't have a visa for PRC... I don't take LuftAir anymore...to many unexpected strikes!!...but looks that Luftair has got wind of the new Thai Immigration Policies of pushing back people. But for the Visa, why did they ask for a visa before? In other words, if one has a passeport that qualifies for Visa Exempt to Thailand, LuftAir would not let them fly???.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, observer90210 said: I don't take LuftAir anymore...to many unexpected strikes!!...but looks that Luftair has got wind of the new Thai Immigration Policies of pushing back people. But for the Visa, why did they ask for a visa before? In other words, if one has a passeport that qualifies for Visa Exempt to Thailand, LuftAir would not let them fly???.... Either visa or for visa exempt entry onward ticket with departure within 30 days is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 (edited) 22 hours ago, sanemax said: Detainment room at 3000 Baht per day ? Whats all that about ? , Good value for money . One of the safest places to reside, in LOS. Imho . Edited July 18, 2017 by elliss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momofarang Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, elliss said: , Good value for money . One of the safest places to reside, in LOS. Imho . But make sure they submit a TM30 to immigration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhonKaenKowboy Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 22 minutes ago, observer90210 said: I don't take LuftAir anymore...to many unexpected strikes!!...but looks that Luftair has got wind of the new Thai Immigration Policies of pushing back people. But for the Visa, why did they ask for a visa before? In other words, if one has a passeport that qualifies for Visa Exempt to Thailand, LuftAir would not let them fly???.... no return ticket in some cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 33 minutes ago, stevenl said: Either visa or for visa exempt entry onward ticket with departure within 30 days is required. ok get the point, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 14 minutes ago, KhonKaenKowboy said: no return ticket in some cases. oki so that's why they wanted a visa despite having visa exempt passport. thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Xaos said: Again to ppl saying he was working here, Cody was out of TH for more than a year, He used to train and fight in TH, then left, was about to come train again. the fact that he was outside thailand for so long makes this 'case' for us TV detectives quite fascinating. he obviously said something during his interview that got him the denial. he did not know about the visa exempt risk. did he know about not being able to work in thailand ? maybe he will say something on his FB account when he gets home (sounds like kansas is home). according to the FB account, he could not pay the 750 charge for the stay in detention (the paypal collection discussion talked about needing to pay that also). that does not mean he is broke. maybe he could not access his funds for some reason. but it appears that he arrived with no atm card, no cash, no credit card. it is hard to believe, how does he leave the airport ? Edited July 18, 2017 by buick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaidream Posted July 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2017 Is all this hassle; all this running around and subterfuge to be able to stay in Thailand indefinitely without the proper documents; some working illegally worth it. There are many other countries with similar climate; cheaper prices and no Visa or working issues. If one is at prime working age and not a millionaire- why wouldn't one want to work at Western wages in their home country rather than scrape by in Thailand with all the scrutiny involved? Most people doing this are wasting their time; losing tons of money and having no retirement fund when they get holder. Having a good time only lasts for so long- then reality bites! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 If coming to Thailand as a tourist why no return or onward flight ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, natway09 said: If coming to Thailand as a tourist why no return or onward flight ???? Perhaps they don't know the exact date they plan to leave. In the good old days when tickets were changeable, that wasn't a problem. Today it can run into some serious coin if you burn a ticket because you need to leave a week (or a day) earlier or later than your onward flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Several off topic posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkv Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 1 minute ago, impulse said: Perhaps they don't know the exact date they plan to leave. In the good old days when tickets were changeable, that wasn't a problem. Today it can run into some serious coin if you burn a ticket because you need to leave a week (or a day) earlier or later than your onward flight. The cheaper the ticket, the less flexible, and with significant change fees. Most people would rather buy the Promo or Saver fare, regardless of the class they travel in. Applies for business also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Just now, lkv said: The cheaper the ticket, the less flexible, and with significant change fees. Most people would rather buy the Promo or Saver fare, regardless of the class they travel in. Applies for business also. I can usually buy a restricted ticket, burn it and buy another for less than a full price, changeable ticket for the same seat. The numbers work out even better if I only burn a small percentage of them. But what a waste of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 (edited) Wow , immigration now check your facebook profile , that explains why the queues @ immi are sooo long . If it keeps the chanchers from entering the kingdom, {again}, job well done. Imho. Edited July 18, 2017 by elliss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oceanyachting Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 1 hour ago, elliss said: Wow , immigration now check your facebook profile , that explains why the queues @ immi are sooo long . If it keeps the chanchers from entering the kingdom, {again}, job well done. Imho. But let those already with long term visas join the Thai channel, not queue for hours with VOA etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackThompson Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 5 hours ago, Thaidream said: Is all this hassle; all this running around and subterfuge to be able to stay in Thailand indefinitely without the proper documents; some working illegally worth it. There are many other countries with similar climate; cheaper prices and no Visa or working issues. If one is at prime working age and not a millionaire- why wouldn't one want to work at Western wages in their home country rather than scrape by in Thailand with all the scrutiny involved? Most people doing this are wasting their time; losing tons of money and having no retirement fund when they get holder. Having a good time only lasts for so long- then reality bites! In the USA, most won't have a retirement-fund, anyway, unless they work for the government or a hospital (unless the Filapinas are let in, and wipe out the nurses-union, then they will be in the same boat). There aren't "pensions" any more for much of anyone, and Social Security is a black-hole with a "who knows if you live to see it" and a ROI that is pathetic. I met a couple folks who were making decent $$ teaching English in Vietnam 1.5x the min-wage in the USA. Others do OK in Cambodia (even easier - no degree needed) - I was offered similar pay by a school director I met by chance a few years back. If I were looking to work, and didn't have skills for a decent job w/work-permit, I would go with one of those 2 options. Could even save some money doing that (more than Social Security would ever net you). South Korea is another choice, but I don't know if it pays well relative to the cost of living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthperson Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, JackThompson said: If I were looking to work, and didn't have skills for a decent job w/work-permit, I would go with one of those 2 options. Are you saying that Cambodian/Vietnamese children should be taught by ill-educated people who possess no skills? Disgraceful . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackThompson Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, perthperson said: Are you saying that Cambodian/Vietnamese children should be taught by ill-educated people who possess no skills? Disgraceful . I am saying they are taught by native-English speakers. In Vietnam, I think you need a college-degree + a "teaching English as a 2nd language" course-certificate (I could be wrong). In Cambodia, I think the certificate, and being generally well-spoken, is sufficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ababidoo Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 I am asking folks again ...Anybody agree with age matter !!! and would that be one of the IO concerns ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthperson Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Just now, JackThompson said: I am saying they are taught by native-English speakers. In Vietnam, I think you need a college-degree + a "teaching English as a 2nd language" course-certificate (I could be wrong). In Cambodia, I think the certificate, and being generally well-spoken, is sufficient. These were your words "If I were looking to work, and didn't have skills for a decent job w/work-permit" Do you consider teaching to be an unskilled job only taken by those unable to obtain a "decent" job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, perthperson said: Are you saying that Cambodian/Vietnamese children should be taught by ill-educated people who possess no skills? Disgraceful . Many local English teachers in Thailand cannot speak English themselves A native English speaking English teacher would be better than a non English speaking local Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackThompson Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, perthperson said: These were your words "If I were looking to work, and didn't have skills for a decent job w/work-permit" Do you consider teaching to be an unskilled job only taken by those unable to obtain a "decent" job? Getting a work-permit to teach English in Thailand is more difficult - that's all I'm pointing out. In my passport-country, USA, an ED degree is one of the easiest course-sets there is (and it shows). Things are different in Germany (and it shows). But in Vietnam or Cambodia, they are happy to learn English to a basic, conversational level. This is not university-level English. I cannot count the times I walked up to a little shop or stall in Cambodia, and a 6-year old was called by mama, ran out and said, "Hello, may I help you?" It didn't take a PhD to teach them the basics, and now they can communicate with everyone from the USA and Europe - and others in ASEAN, which is the point of the effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthperson Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, sanemax said: Many local English teachers in Thailand cannot speak English themselves A native English speaking English teacher would be better than a non English speaking local Of course you are correct but only if the Teacher is a Degree Qualified Professional that speaks other than Scouse, Geordie, Glaswegian or some other "rich" accent. Some (most) of the so called native "teachers" of 'english' in SEA would not be allowed anywhere near a school in the English speaking West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 1 minute ago, perthperson said: Of course you are correct but only if the Teacher is a Degree Qualified Professional that speaks other than Scouse, Geordie, Glaswegian or some other "rich" accent. Some (most) of the so called native "teachers" of 'english' in SEA would not be allowed anywhere near a school in the English speaking West. We are not in the English speaking West, so, that point is irrelevant Most proper English teachers would not work in Thailand , they would go to Countries that pay higher salaries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthperson Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, sanemax said: We are not in the English speaking West, so, that point is irrelevant Most proper English teachers would not work in Thailand , they would go to Countries that pay higher salaries So Fake unqualified , non professional english "teachers" are good enough, in your opinion, for SEA children ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackThompson Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, sanemax said: We are not in the English speaking West, so, that point is irrelevant Most proper English teachers would not work in Thailand , they would go to Countries that pay higher salaries And the irony is, Cambodians have better English skills, by far. Shows that 'standards for teachers' is not the deciding factor, beyond all doubt. Edited July 18, 2017 by JackThompson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Just now, perthperson said: So Fake unqualified , non professional english "teachers" are good enough, in your opinion, for SEA children ? I am saying that they are better than a local teacher who cannot even speak English himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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