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Yingluck judges provided with police guards

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Police have been assigned to act as security guards for judges in the court case involving former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra, said deputy Prime Minister Gen Prawit Wongsuwan on Tuesday.

 

Yingluck has been charged with negligence related to her government’s rice-pledging scheme, and the Supreme Court’s Criminal Division for Political Office Holders is set to deliver a verdict in the case on August 25.

 

Authorities have been closely monitoring movements by her supporters ahead of the verdict.

 

So far, they had not detected any suspicious movement or identified a third party that would create turmoil, Prawit said.

 

Despite saying authorities would not block attempts by Yingluck’s supporters to show up at court to provide moral support, Prawit said it would be better if they stayed at home.

 

“They can come [from provinces]. But if too many people come, I’m afraid there will be no enough space for them,” he said.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30323918

 
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 They can come [from provinces]. But if too many people come, I’m afraid there will be no enough space for them,” he said.

 

Not enough space in Bangkok for the people from the provinces,  they must be expecting a huge turnout.  I thought more people loved Prayuth than Yingluk.

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Judges assigned security

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SOME RED SHIRTS ‘PLAN TO STAY HOME’ FOR YINGLUCK VERDICT DUE TO MONITORING
 

BANGKOK: -- SECURITY officers will be sent to guard judges in the high-profile case involving former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra to maintain order ahead of the announcement of a verdict.

 

The panel of nine judges hearing the case in the Supreme Court’s Criminal Division for Political Office Holders, and their residences, will be under guard until after the court delivers its verdict on August 25.

 

The order came after Army chief General Chalermchai Sitthisart, who is also head of the Peace and Order

Maintaining Command, yesterday called a meeting of security forces to assess expectations about the situation on the day of the verdict.

 

Yingluck has been charged with negligence in preventing corruption and irregularities related to her government’s rice-pledging scheme, which allegedly caused massive financial damage to the country.

 

Authorities have been closely monitoring movements by Yingluck’s supporters ahead of the verdict.

 

The meeting concluded that supporters would mainly come from outside Bangkok, including Pathum Thani, Nonthaburi, Samut Prakan and Ayutthaya provinces, where there are strong bases of Pheu Thai Party and red-shirt supporters, according to a source at the meeting. The source said security officers had been instructed to closely monitor local leaders in other areas in the North and Northeast who might mobilise supporters.

 

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Security forces have estimated that 1,000 to 2,000 people will show up to support Yingluck at the court. However, authorities were not concerned about the supporters, but of a “third party” that might provoke chaos, the source said.

 

Officers would also consider the sources of funding for supporters’ trips to Bangkok, the source said, adding that the total cost of all the passengers in a single van visiting the capital would amount to Bt100,000.

 

Other modes of transport that might be used by Yingluck supporters include free train services provided by the government. People travelling by train would probably arrive a couple of days before the verdict and meet at assembly points in Don Muang and Lak Si districts near the Supreme Court, the source added.

 

Chalermchai said in the meeting that everyone should do their duty in ensuring peace and order, as well as to create an understanding with people regarding the issue, the source said.

 

Initially, government forces would stick with security measures referred to as “Korakot 52”, which was considered a “soft” security plan, to cope with the situation, the source said, adding that another meeting would be called next week to reassess the situation.

 

Meanwhile, a red-shirt leader in Chiang Mai, who asked not to be named, told The Nation that the movement was being closely monitored by security personnel, who had asked if supporters planned to be in Bangkok for the verdict.

 

Red-shirt leaders had told security personnel they would stay home but give Yingluck moral support, the source said, adding that leaders had not been in touch with one another or discussed politics recently.

 

Anyone travelling to Bangkok for the verdict would do so privately, the red-shirt source said.

 

Stern warning

 

Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha said yesterday he did not have a problem with people travelling independently and in good faith to support the former prime minister, but added that any third party that was involved would have to be scrutinised.

 

The premier last week issued a warning that he would have officers ask Yingluck’s supporters individually where they |were from and how they had travelled to |the court on the day of the verdict. Citing the necessity of law enforcement, Prayut warned that everyone had to obey all laws, including traffic laws that might be broken in the event of a road blockade.

 

“Everyone will be punished [if they break the law]. I will not let anyone violate the law,” Prayut said.

 

Authorities had not detected any suspicious movements or identified third parties that would create turmoil, Deputy Prime Minister General Prawit Wongsuwan said yesterday.

 

However, despite saying that authorities would not block attempts by Yingluck’s supporters to show up at the court, Prawit said it would be better if they stayed at home.

 

“They can come [from the provinces]. But if too many people come, I’m afraid there will not be enough space for them,” he said.

 

In a related development, Interior Minister Anupong Paochinda said there had not been any irregularities found in the spending of local administration organisations in connection with possible trips to support Yingluck.

 

However, organisations across the country had been instructed that spending had to be in line with laws and regulations, the interior minister said.

 

The Office of the Auditor-General |had floated the idea that local administrative organisations could have misused |state budgets to fund trips in support of Yingluck.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30323912

 
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3 hours ago, inThailand said:

Judges need police protection. Is that another indication of the coming verdict?

No it is an indication of the shins' gang of thugs that get violent when their master doesn't get his will - or when shin money is threatened

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19 minutes ago, sweatalot said:

No it is an indication of the shins' gang of thugs that get violent when their master doesn't get his will - or when shin money is threatened

But but the military got guns and trigger happy; protected by the law.

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4 hours ago, inThailand said:

Judges need police protection. Is that another indication of the coming verdict?

Maybe, given the violent past of the redshirts Id want protection if I had to judge YL. 

 

When Bhumjaithai party left the Thaksin coalition they wanted to bomb the headquarters of the Bhumjaithai party (red shirts are in jail for the plot), we seen what happened in 2010 and we seen how much violence was committed against the anti government protesters in 2014.

 

So.. just making sure people don't get killed for doing their job. 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, robblok said:

Maybe, given the violent past of the redshirts Id want protection if I had to judge YL. 

 

When Bhumjaithai party left the Thaksin coalition they wanted to bomb the headquarters of the Bhumjaithai party (red shirts are in jail for the plot), we seen what happened in 2010 and we seen how much violence was committed against the anti government protesters in 2014.

 

So.. just making sure people don't get killed for doing their job. 

 

 

Three possibilities:

1. Red violence at guilty verdict

2. Yellow violence at not guilty verdict

3. Junta violence regardless of verdict as pretence to further delay violence.

 

The consequences for each possibility:

1. Army opens fire, kills more citizens, rounds up Reds, tortures and jails them for life.

2. In 2027 a few yellows charged only to be acquitted in 2037 

3. Nobody ever charged

(*all three result in cancelling of elections)

 

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1 minute ago, HungWell said:

Three possibilities:

1. Red violence at guilty verdict

2. Yellow violence at not guilty verdict

3. Junta violence regardless of verdict as pretence to further delay violence.

 

The consequences for each possibility:

1. Army opens fire, kills more citizens, rounds up Reds, tortures and jails them for life.

2. In 2027 a few yellows charged only to be acquitted in 2037 

3. Nobody ever charged

(*all three result in cancelling of elections)

 

Yes, lot of potential violence, though I doubt the junta will be violent (unless if there are again men in Black shooting at them). 

 

Yellow violence.. could happen though if you have to compare chances for red and yellow violence the chances are slim.

 

But it can be an explosive situation lets hope there is no violence. 

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Just now, robblok said:

Yes, lot of potential violence, though I doubt the junta will be violent (unless if there are again men in Black shooting at them). 

 

Yellow violence.. could happen though if you have to compare chances for red and yellow violence the chances are slim.

 

But it can be an explosive situation lets hope there is no violence. 

The only group that benefits from violence is the Junta (who are of course the armed wing of the Yellows).5993b234ed9c5_ScreenShot2017-08-16at10_46_37AM.png.ac20f6686951bbdb485edea958ffd023.png

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You mean like the red terrorists that are the armed wing of the PTP, the guys that killed a few kids and bombed a hospital.

 

I just hope there won't be any violence and i dispute that the junta benefits from it.. that is like the time that the hospital was bombed by that red supporter and everyone was claiming it was false flag before they caught the guy. 

 

The junta will have egg on its face if there is violence they don't need violence at all.

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8 minutes ago, robblok said:

You mean like the red terrorists that are the armed wing of the PTP, the guys that killed a few kids and bombed a hospital.

 

I just hope there won't be any violence and i dispute that the junta benefits from it.. that is like the time that the hospital was bombed by that red supporter and everyone was claiming it was false flag before they caught the guy. 

 

The junta will have egg on its face if there is violence they don't need violence at all.

Yes I do. The two main differences are that the Red killers are an outlier minority group of extremists amongst millions of peaceful reds whilst the Yellow killers are at the core of the yellow movement; the second different is of course the kill tallies of each group, here Yellows win hands down.

 

A bit of egg on face is a price they'd be willing to pay in order to postpone elections they are sure to lose.

 

I personally believe things will go smoothly because true to form, Thaksin has outsmarted the bozos opposed to him by simply sitting on his arse and waiting them out.

 

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2 minutes ago, HungWell said:

Yes I do. The two main differences are that the Red killers are an outlier minority group of extremists amongst millions of peaceful reds whilst the Yellow killers are at the core of the yellow movement; the second different is of course the kill tallies of each group, here Yellows win hands down.

 

A bit of egg on face is a price they'd be willing to pay in order to postpone elections they are sure to lose.

 

I personally believe things will go smoothly because true to form, Thaksin has outsmarted the bozos opposed to him by simply sitting on his arse and waiting them out.

 

How long do you think you will last this time?

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1 minute ago, halloween said:

How long do you think you will last this time?

I think once an elected government gets back in power it will last a long long time and the people behind the junta know this which is why they are no doubt desperately trying to find a way to further delay elections that will not bring new international sanctions.

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12 minutes ago, HungWell said:

I think once an elected government gets back in power it will last a long long time and the people behind the junta know this which is why they are no doubt desperately trying to find a way to further delay elections that will not bring new international sanctions.

Partly but the truth is the new 'elected' government will be neutered and harmless to the rich elite who have been sent by God to run the country.

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3 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:

Partly but the truth is the new 'elected' government will be neutered and harmless to the rich elite who have been sent by God to run the country.

When it first takes office it will be somewhat weak, but over time, they will become emboldened and begin chipping away at the anti-democracy elements of the terrible constitution currently in place. The last time Thais had to live under a full on military government such as this one was in the early 90's, with the experience of how shitty life is under a junta fresh in the minds of all - another coup is an impossibility, there will always be a rampant anti-democracy 5% of the population, but they'll no longer garner any non-fanatical support or the indifference of the indifferent. Their goose is cooked.

 

 

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1 minute ago, HungWell said:

When it first takes office it will be somewhat weak, but over time, they will become emboldened and begin chipping away at the anti-democracy elements of the terrible constitution currently in place. The last time Thais had to live under a full on military government such as this one was in the early 90's, with the experience of how shitty life is under a junta fresh in the minds of all - another coup is an impossibility, there will always be a rampant anti-democracy 5% of the population, but they'll no longer garner any non-fanatical support or the indifference of the indifferent. Their goose is cooked.

 

 

I sincerely hope so and agree, of course, that it is a matter of time but it will take many years. We dream of a free Thailand as do most Thais.

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4 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:

Partly but the truth is the new 'elected' government will be neutered and harmless to the rich elite who have been sent by God to run the country.

Not if the next elected government muster sufficient alliances and clouts to re-write those  laws that give the military and elites the power over the people. Even the constitution can be revised through a referendum. Things are not the same as before. 

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2 hours ago, HungWell said:

Getting interesting how? The bloke in the middle is US Senator John McCain who is currently on leave due to recently been diagnosed with (most likely terminal) brain cancer. This photo is 5 years old.

 

What's your point?

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47 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Not if the next elected government muster sufficient alliances and clouts to re-write those  laws that give the military and elites the power over the people. Even the constitution can be revised through a referendum. Things are not the same as before. 

 

"Things are not the same as before. "

 

How true, getting harder to run a mafia / salaried gang of yes men thieves from abroad...

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45 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Not if the next elected government muster sufficient alliances and clouts to re-write those  laws that give the military and elites the power over the people. Even the constitution can be revised through a referendum. Things are not the same as before. 

 

Eric, elected governments don't respect the laws, and have been frequently caught breaking them.

 

Do you think the side with all the tanks and most of the guns would respect any law they didn't like? 

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