Supreme Court jails Boonsong 42 years on G-to-G rice deal

[Baerboxer]

5 minutes ago, gummy said:

No crime at all. Only a crime made up by an illegal and murderous administration

 

So you are saying there never was any fictitious G2G rice sales?

[Beats56]

That is pretty stiff sentence. How can they change max of 10 years to 42 years. I guess they can do what they want. Yingluck. Was probably right to leave.

 

 

[Zack61]

2 hours ago, mark131v said:

Well they had to punish somebody didn't they look like he has drawn the short straw...

 

Hope the international press start looking into this as it goes someway to showing why YL has fled, no real reason to stay for a show trial with a predetermined punishment in a justice system that lacks justice...

I think you meant to say "injustice system"

[seajae]

27 minutes ago, natway09 said:

seajae,,, who do you think directed him to set up these fake deals???????

This could start an uprising or civil war

at a guess you would have to say his boss seeing it involved his close personal friends, wonder how much he made from it

[connda]

Someone had to fall on a sword.  

 

 

[seajae]

9 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

So everything reported in the media, all the evidence presented in court, bank account transactions, etc was all false and created just to convict these people? 

 

Wow! Just Wow!

mate gummy is a troll, you only have to see how they are stirring the pot to realize they are ignorant of everything happening here, denying all the actual facts that have been presented in the courts to magistrates that are the same ones as when yl was pm shows this in spades

 

[Arandora]

1 minute ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Wow. And the accusations made against Yingluck? Are you saying they were all made up too?

Yes. He's saying that. Doesn't mean it's true or based on fact. Don't feed the troll. That's what he is looking for! 

[Remus1830]

Murderers get 10 years 42 years is crazy.Glad she got out wish her all the luck

[impulse]

2 hours ago, darksidedog said:

He seemed very confident that if found guilty, he would get bail this morning while he appealed. Given the tendency of very guilty people to do a runner, I hope that he doesn't get it. 42 years might be a bit excessive, but he was quite happy to defraud the country of massive sums of money, so som nam na. Payback is indeed a bitch.

 

BP article says no bail, on account of the gravity of the crime.  Probably also has something to do with losing enough convicts for one day.

Edited August 25, 2017 by impulse

[Krataiboy]

Yeah, but. . . 

 

If the vanishing lady has done a runner an awful lot of people must have been deliberately looking the other way.  

 

But why not? As my boyhood hero, Baldy Hogan of the Rover, used to say:  it's results that count.

 

At a stroke, our esteemed leaders have got another irksome Shinawatra out of their hair without making her a martyr and possibly stirring up a peasant's revolt.

 

Nice one.

 

Out of sight, of course, means out of mind. Just as with her fugitive big brother, in a few years hardly anyone will even remember who Yingluck was - let alone how badly she overcooked the rice.

[aslimversgwm]

2 hours ago, seajae said:

farce, he was caught with fake rice deals, the only farce are those that think this is a set up  but then again you lot cannot accept the truth even with all the evidence, show how pathetic the ones calling this fake are

So you've seen the evidence have you?  I assume you can read   Thai and have access to all the Court's prosecution  and defence papers?

[johnarth]

well I wasn't expecting that, no doubt the sentence was leaked, it's going to give a few other people something to think about elections will probably be put off for awhile now

[craigt3365]

4 minutes ago, Remus1830 said:

Murderers get 10 years 42 years is crazy.Glad she got out wish her all the luck

Some murders are executed. Not all get 10 years.

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-thailand-politics-rice-idUSKBN0MD0PH20150317

BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand’s attorney general filed charges against a former commerce minister and 20 state officials and employees of private firms on Tuesday over alleged graft related to rice export deals with two Chinese firms, in a case that could see them sentenced to life in prison.

[impulse]

2 hours ago, pookiki said:

Had he been convicted in S. Korea, which is a democracy and not a one-party state, he would have received a five year sentence as did the CEO of Samsung.  Thailand has a big problem with proportionality in prison sentences.

 

Because the length of sentence ain't about the crime.  It's about whether the guys who did the crime are from the right or wrong party de jour.

 

[Tilacme]

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Are you suggesting that Mr. Boonsong, and his co-defendants, didn't commit serious fraud in the fictitious G2G deals?

How can I suggest that when it has already been proven at Court.  Do you have faith in the Courts?  If you do then good for you.

[tomta]

2 minutes ago, icare999 said:

yes it was so good under taksin not he was hell bent on making thailand his own one party state and if you or others think rice sceme was not a total scam then youve got sawdust for brains or just totally naive 

Well, I guess he partly achieved his ambitions. IT's a one party state now. The Green Party

 

[midas]

6 minutes ago, icare999 said:

yes it was so good under taksin not he was hell bent on making thailand his own one party state and if you or others think rice sceme was not a total scam then youve got sawdust for brains or just totally naive 

 at least he didn't squander the People's money on submarines

[Basil B]

2 hours ago, seajae said:

probably right with that but we will need to see the actual sentence notes to understand why he got so much, possibly due to ripping of Thailand for so many millions more than anything but is a bit excessive

As they are not likely to relieve him of all his ill gotten gains, lock him up for life so he can not live like a lord when he gets out

 

[impulse]

16 minutes ago, johnarth said:

well I wasn't expecting that, no doubt the sentence was leaked, it's going to give a few other people something to think about elections will probably be put off for awhile now

 

I don't think the sentence was too much a surprise.  Denial of bail, on the other hand, may have foiled some overly clever strategies and left some private jets warmed up, on the tarmac, but with no passengers...

 

I wonder if the pretty lady guessed lucky, got tipped off, or just decided not to risk it?

 

Edited August 25, 2017 by impulse

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Same story as usual. The minions are left holding the bag (punishment) while the bigshots (the Shinawatras) skate away out of the country.

 

Re the prison sentences, those are ALMOST as long as the illegal mushroom pickers got a while back. But unlikely they'll serve all of them, courtesy of typical sentence reductions and potential royal pardons down the line. That is, if they don't do runners on bail beforehand.

 

[impulse]

26 minutes ago, choff56 said:

1 hour ago, midas said:

And let's not forget the 24-year old drunk woman who slammed her car into a convoy of cyclists last year on a mountain road near Chiang Mai  killing three of them, was sentenced to just 2 years 

this place is more like Alice in Wonderland  as every day goes by you can't take this place seriously anymore  

Or the 16 year old girl without a drivers license who killed 9 people on the thruway and could barely finish 40 hours of community service.

 

The difference being, of course that they only killed a bunch of little people, and aren't an existential threat to anyone's political or economic aspirations.

 

[Bangkok Barry]

3 hours ago, mark131v said:

Well they had to punish somebody didn't they look like he has drawn the short straw...

 

Hope the international press start looking into this as it goes someway to showing why YL has fled, no real reason to stay for a show trial with a predetermined punishment in a justice system that lacks justice...

 

Of course, he might be guilty as charged. Just because he is/was a member of a party overturned by the military doesn't automatically make him lily-white. The entire rice deal stank and was totally unworkable, based entirely on the arrogant view that the world would buy Thai rice rather than any other, no matter the price. As it turned out to be.

[cumgranosalus]

conciliatory?

nonsense! sentences like these make Thailand look ridiculous in the eyes of the world.....yet again the Junta shows that rather than the interests of the Kingdom, they are wrapped up in their own self-obsession.

[metisdead]

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[digger70]

Smile and run like hell.   55555

[snoop1130]

Boonsong escorted to jail

By Wasamon Audjarint 
The Nation

 

 

Former commerce minister Boonsong Teriyapirom, his ex-deputy Poom Sarapol and 16 other defendants were escorted to Bangkok Special Prison on Friday after being found guilty of offences relating to a bogus government-to-government deal under the Yingluck Shinawatra-led administration’s rice-pledging scheme.

 

The Supreme Court’s Criminal Division for Political Office Holders sentenced Boonsong to 42 years in jail, Poom to 36 years, former director-general to the Foreign Trade Department Manas Soiploy to 40 years, his ex-deputy Tikaporn Natvorathat to 32 years, ex-director of the Foreign Rice Trading Office Akrapong Theepvajara to 24 years, and rice dealer Apichart Chansakulporn to 48 years. 

 

Looking stressed, Boonsong walked to the prison truck without speaking to reporters. 

 

Prior to hearing the verdict, he said he had prepared cash for bail as well as a plan to appeal the ruling if it went against him. 

 

“I’ve done my best to fight in the case,” he said.

 

The escorting of the defendants from the court was carried out under strict security by the police, with supporters of the Pheu Thai Party waiting for the verdict in front of the courthouse. 

 

However, there was no disturbance from those in the crowd, who merely booed when the prison truck drove by.

 

Thousands of supporters had originally been present mainly to provide moral support to ex-PM Yingluck, but their numbers lessened after it was clear that she was not going to show up at the court.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30324902

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2017-8-25

[JAG]

I wonder if the sentences were "leaked" to Yingluck in order to prompt her to leave Thailand.

Almost certainly I should imagine.

[LukKrueng]

3 hours ago, Kieranmc said:

You can see why she ran. The Supreme Court is compromised. The sentence for this was two to 10 years not 42 years. This could be the beginning of an uprising.

You got it wrong. YL's sentence was supposed to be 2-10 years, and she was accused of negligence to see what her government was doing and to control it. 

The minister is accused of falsifying government-to-government rice deals

[Tilacme]

5 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

Of course, he might be guilty as charged. Just because he is/was a member of a party overturned by the military doesn't automatically make him lily-white. The entire rice deal stank and was totally unworkable, based entirely on the arrogant view that the world would buy Thai rice rather than any other, no matter the price. As it turned out to be.

Did you ever try to get your head around the 1973 OPEC crisis.  Shut the tap and prices go up. 

 

What Yingluck didn't factor was India and others upping production to fill the gap. 

[soalbundy]

Ticket for Dubai already in his pocket but he will have to get to Cambodia by himself