a complete list of requirements for a retirement visa for those who already pocess a non imm.O visa

[Si Thea01]

No one has seemed to mention that if one is renting they will also need a copy of the owner's ID and House Book, both duly signed.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Just now, Si Thea01 said:

No one has seemed to mention that if one is renting they will also need a copy of the owner's ID and House Book, both duly signed.

 

I'm renting in BKK, and CW Immigration has never asked for that in connection with my retirement extensions.

 

 

[Suradit69]

9 hours ago, sinbin said:

Any stamp giving permission to enter a country, entered into your passport, is a 'visa'. 

An extension of stay does not give you permission to enter Thailand. In fact if you attempted to enter Thailand with only an extension of stay stamp in your passport, the extension of stay would be cancelled and at best you'd just be given a visa exempt entry for 30 days.

 

If you have an extension of stay I suggest you try to use it to enter Thailand. Bring along your dictionary. The reason you need a re-entry permit to enter Thailand if you only have an extension of stay is because you do not have a visa.

 

The visa you were given at an embassy or consulate has an expiry date. If you get an "extension" inside Thailand, the only thing that's been extended is your permission to remain in the country. You no longer have a visa.

 

Additionally, if you do arrive without a visa, most people would be admitted to the country for 30 days under a visa exempt entry. As the name implies, they have been given permission to stay in the country without having been given a visa. So they entered the country, were stamped in and the stamp is not a visa.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 13, 2017 by Suradit69

[MickTurator]

27 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

There has not been one that I can recall in the years on i have been active on this forum.

There is one for getting visas in the region but never for the requirements to get an extension based upon retirement.

Yes it was before your time.  I'll have a search and see if I can find a copy.

If I am successful I will PM you a copy.

[Si Thea01]

4 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I'm renting in BKK, and CW Immigration has never asked for that in connection with my retirement extensions.

 

 

Well they do say every office has different rules.  Maybe mine was only needed because I changed addresses.  I must ask next time I go there, which by the way is Nakhon Pathom.

[ubonjoe]

2 minutes ago, MickTurator said:

Yes it was before your time.  I'll have a search and see if I can find a copy.

I have been on here since 2008 which is before you joined the forum.

[Billy Bloggs]

14 minutes ago, Si Thea01 said:

No one has seemed to mention that if one is renting they will also need a copy of the owner's ID and House Book, both duly signed.

Yeah as has already been said, every office has different requirements, my Last one CM did not want any residence evidence for EOS.

[Si Thea01]

2 minutes ago, Billy Bloggs said:

Yeah as has already been said, every office has different requirements, my Last one CM did not want any residence evidence for EOS.

I might have been mistaken, maybe they only wanted those two documents as I had just moved provinces and had a new address.

[Billy Bloggs]

1 minute ago, Si Thea01 said:

I might have been mistaken, maybe they only wanted those two documents as I had just moved provinces and had a new address.

Yeah possibly that was the case as it does get confusing when you have multiple things going on at the same time.

[Si Thea01]

Just now, Billy Bloggs said:

Yeah possibly that was the case as it does get confusing when you have multiple things going on at the same time.

Might be my bloody age too.  

[Tanoshi]

3 hours ago, David Walden said:

I have a Visa...A  Non-Immigrant 0-A  M issued in Australia...The Thai Embassy in Australia refers to it as a "Retirement Visa" (on the application form).  It took me 3 years to workout how to go about getting one.  In Thailand people will still tell me there is no such thing as a "Retirement Visa"  I rest my case.

 

And those who tell you there is no such thing as a 'Retirement Visa' are correct.

As you already correctly stated what you applied for and was issued was a Non Imm O-A Visa.

In the US they refer to the Non Imm O-A Visa as the 'long stay' Visa.

 

I have yet to see a Visa issued by any Thai Embassy that has the word' retirement' or 'long stay' printed on it.

 

Non Imm O-A Visa, the Non Imm O ME Visa and Extensions based on retirement are often referred to as 'Retirement Visa'.

The fact is they are all issued for the purpose of Retirement, but they all have different conditions of use.

 

Telling me you have a 'Retirement Visa' usually means you have one of two Visas issued by a Thai Embassy, or an Extension issued by Immigration. And your guess which one, is as good as mine.

 

[MickTurator]

4 hours ago, David Walden said:

The Thai Embassy in Australia refers to it as a "Retirement Visa" (on the application form). 

Sorry I cannot find that.

Would you please confirm to which Embassy/Consulate you are referring.

[David Walden]

20 hours ago, tgeezer said:

Oh goody, a discussion on semantics!
English speakers taught Thais the word 'weesaa' so English people are the only ones who know what it means. (The same sort of English speakers who taught Thais to write 'click for to download' presumably. ) This forum has decided that visa is the stamp which is sometimes overstamped 'used' when you pass through Immigration at the border. Legally, Thai does not use 'weesaa' , or didn't, they use 'draa' (stamp) and in the nature of Thai specify what it allows. This forum is in English and the term visa has been assigned a specific meaning which, because it is counter intuitive, naturally creates controversy.


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Edited October 14, 2017 by David Walden

[David Walden]

12 hours ago, MickTurator said:

Sorry I cannot find that.

Would you please confirm to which Embassy/Consulate you are referring.

Open thine eyes and yea shall see, or perhaps when you go into the bush you are having trouble seeing the woods because there are to many trees in the way.

http://canberra.thaiembassy.org/Home/visa

[David Walden]

13 hours ago, Tanoshi said:

 

And those who tell you there is no such thing as a 'Retirement Visa' are correct.

As you already correctly stated what you applied for and was issued was a Non Imm O-A Visa.

In the US they refer to the Non Imm O-A Visa as the 'long stay' Visa.

 

I have yet to see a Visa issued by any Thai Embassy that has the word' retirement' or 'long stay' printed on it.

 

Non Imm O-A Visa, the Non Imm O ME Visa and Extensions based on retirement are often referred to as 'Retirement Visa'.

The fact is they are all issued for the purpose of Retirement, but they all have different conditions of use.

 

Telling me you have a 'Retirement Visa' usually means you have one of two Visas issued by a Thai Embassy, or an Extension issued by Immigration. And your guess which one, is as good as mine.

 

http://canberra.thaiembassy.org/Home/visa

Perhaps your blind also.  When in Thailand you do as the Thais do...when in Rome you do as the Romans do ...when in Australian you as the Australians do...When you interpret Thai language into Australian English as most normal people do a non-immigrant  A-O  M visa becomes ...Wait for it!..  Wait for it!... I'll say it again... wait for it!

 

                                   A Retirement Visa 

Edited October 14, 2017 by David Walden

[Tanoshi]

6 minutes ago, David Walden said:

Open thine eyes and yea shall see, or perhaps when you go into the bush you are having trouble seeing the woods because there are to many trees in the way.

http://canberra.thaiembassy.org/Home/visa

Says he who claims it took him 3 years to figure out how to obtain a Non Imm O-A Visa.

 

Open thine eyes and yea shall see, alternatively visit Specsavers.

 

The same site also states the Non Imm O-A Visa is issued for the purpose of Retirement (twice in fact).

 

Quote

VISA TYPES/PURPOSE OF VISIT

 

RETIREMENT/LONG-STAY VISA (Maximum stay 1 year and employment is prohibited)

Purpose of Visit: This type of visa may be issued to applicants aged 50 years and over who wish to stay in Thailand for a period of not exceeding 1 year without the intention of working.  Financial statement and police check are required. (Category “O-A”)

 

 

[Tanoshi]

16 minutes ago, David Walden said:

http://canberra.thaiembassy.org/Home/visa

Perhaps your blind also.  When in Thailand you do as the Thais do...when in Rome you do as the Romans do ...when in Australian you as the Australians do...When you interpret Thai language into Australian English as most normal people do a non-immigrant  A-O  M visa becomes ...Wait for it!..  Wait for it!... I'll say it again... wait for it!

 

                                   A Retirement Visa 

 

But it's not in Thai language, it's in English.

 

You just don't understand what you read!

 

Purpose of Visit = Retirement.

Type of Visa = Non Imm O-A.

Edited October 14, 2017 by Tanoshi

[David Walden]

1 minute ago, Tanoshi said:

 

But it's not in Thai language, it's in English.

 

You just don't understand what you read!

I refer you back to my previous post about opening an "argument shop".  I think it is about time I got onto my local Parliamentary member about legislating against "frivolity and stupidity"..  It seems to be becoming contagious.

[Tanoshi]

8 minutes ago, David Walden said:

I refer you back to my previous post about opening an "argument shop".  I think it is about time I got onto my local Parliamentary member about legislating against "frivolity and stupidity"..  It seems to be becoming contagious.

 

Claiming denial is always much easier than claiming fault, just ask your local PM.

[banlampang]

I have attached a checklist which I made for visa extension (US passport).  Requirements reflected in this checklist are specific for the Lampang Immigration office (requirements may vary from office to office).  Good luck.

Requirements for Visa Extension 2017.docx

[MickTurator]

A visa cannot be extended.

I presume you mean an extension of Permission to Stay

[Tanoshi]

11 minutes ago, MickTurator said:

A visa cannot be extended.

I presume you mean an extension of Permission to Stay

I also found his list confusing;

 

Visit Bangkok Bank, downtown Lampang, and obtain a Letter of Guarantee of Deposit. Go to bank on the morning of 26 27 April 2017. Make copy of Letter. B100

 

Make copies of every page of bank Savings Book for last year, May 2016 through April 2017. Sign every page – make copy (1)

 

Make a copy of the Income Verification Form from the US Consulate.

 

Where's the either/or, surely not supplying all 3?

[MickTurator]

Might need all three if using a combination of income and deposit

[Tanoshi]

44 minutes ago, MickTurator said:

Might need all three if using a combination of income and deposit

Agreed, although it isn't clear.

 

By either/or, I meant as in this example;

 

8.Proof of Funds;

If using the funds in the bank method an updated passbook and letter from the bank dated the same

day as the application. Funds in the passbook and letter must match.

If using the income method, a letter from your Embassy confirming income, OR,

you can use a combination of the two methods providing it adds up to 800,000 baht per annum.

[sklmeeera]

What a waste of money . You would be better off getting tourist visa and leaving the country every now and then .

[JackThompson]

1 hour ago, sklmeeera said:

What a waste of money . You would be better off getting tourist visa and leaving the country every now and then .

You mean, lost ROI on the 800K in the bank, vs investments with better returns?  You could opt for income or combo to eliminate or mitigate that aspect. 

If spending considerable time out of Thailand every year, and not staying long - then I would agree.  But add up 4 comfortable Tourist-Visa trips + 4 extensions per-year, and you may find the time/trouble/cost of obtaining a retirement-extension is less-expensive. 

[Billy Bloggs]

LOL I always shudder when someone quotes an Australian government department for anything.

[Evilbaz]

It's a Thai government department.

[banlampang]

On ‎10‎/‎14‎/‎2017 at 1:07 PM, Tanoshi said:

Agreed, although it isn't clear.

 

By either/or, I meant as in this example;

 

8.Proof of Funds;

If using the funds in the bank method an updated passbook and letter from the bank dated the same

day as the application. Funds in the passbook and letter must match.

If using the income method, a letter from your Embassy confirming income, OR,

you can use a combination of the two methods providing it adds up to 800,000 baht per annum.

Sorry for the confusion - I do use both monthly income (pension & social security) and deposits; the verification from the consulate serves as both income verification (whatever I choose to write down) and address verification (its primary purpose for me).

[hwaetu Go]

I have a non O imm visa and am switching to a retirement visa. Currently my farang  wife of same country is gets her visa (also none imm O) becasue I have one. Now that I am switching to a retirement visa. Can she once again get her visa attched to me? How does that work?