Back to Thailand after getting a 3 year ban

[bobalolo]

I have overstayed in Thailand for 1 year and got banned for 3 years after leaving through Suvarnabhumi airport.

Its been a few months now and I would like to get back. 

Anyone has experience with reversing the ban? 

Are there lawyers who has done it before? (successfully).

Thanks for the answers!

[elviajero]

Unless you were in a coma, or have some other justification for being unable to leave for a year, you'd be wasting your money with a legitimate lawyer.

[steve187]

will thy want you back

[stevymac]

Good luck. You still have same passport with the overstay stamp in?


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[Mattd]

The only realistic chance of you getting to come back in to Thailand is once the 3 years is up, even then expect some scrutiny coming in!

[bobalolo]

32 minutes ago, stevymac said:

Good luck. You still have same passport with the overstay stamp in?


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I can get a new one, or a new passport from a different country.

The question is will they know I am the same person? I do not mind changing my name on a different country passport (or the same country). How sophisticate are they anyway? 

If I try to cross from a land border what is the worst that they can do if they find out?

[tifino]

 

 

the system is as Advanced, as far as required - by Interpol etc

 

 

another avenue, the Fake Passports are the ony scourge that might stop you being traced back to your origins, however it will still get you caught out

[SWW]

Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't offering advice on this thread constitute promoting illegal activity?

[InMyShadow]

I can get a new one, or a new passport from a different country.
The question is will they know I am the same person? I do not mind changing my name on a different country passport (or the same country). How sophisticate are they anyway? 
If I try to cross from a land border what is the worst that they can do if they find out?

If you have dual nationality and a legit passport then it's worth a shot. You would be crazy to try on a fake passport. Get caught and probably banned for life.

[Eff1n2ret]

20 minutes ago, SWW said:

Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't offering advice on this thread constitute promoting illegal activity?

Not if someone has some idea how the ban might be reversed by negotiation with the Thai authorities. Otherwise, you're probably right.

[peterb17]

Why doesn’t anybody seem to understand the consequences of breaking the law.

 

You are banned from the Kingdom for 3 years - it’s quite simple . 

[topt]

25 minutes ago, Eff1n2ret said:

Not if someone has some idea how the ban might be reversed by negotiation with the Thai authorities. Otherwise, you're probably right.

Surprised no one has asked why he overstayed in the first place?

[stevymac]

Go on then why did you overstay in the first place? Think we all want to know


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[JackThompson]

1 hour ago, bobalolo said:

I can get a new one, or a new passport from a different country.

The question is will they know I am the same person? I do not mind changing my name on a different country passport (or the same country). How sophisticate are they anyway? 

If I try to cross from a land border what is the worst that they can do if they find out?

If you got a new (real) passport under a different name from a different country - even then, facial recognition and/or your DOB might still give you away.  And even if you made it in, is it really worth risking jail, deportation, and a permanent-ban, just to come back early? 

I sympathize with your missing Thailand, but if you really like being in Thailand, it would be wise to find somewhere else to pass the time until the ban is over.

[FritsSikkink]

Can you stay legal the next time? 

[sometimewoodworker]

1 hour ago, bobalolo said:

I can get a new one, or a new passport from a different country.

The question is will they know I am the same person? I do not mind changing my name on a different country passport (or the same country). How sophisticate are they anyway? 

If I try to cross from a land border what is the worst that they can do if they find out?

I know of one person who changed their name got a new passport and was arrested at the airport refused entry and sent back to their home country.

 

So as you have been banned for 3 years suck it up unless you have any desire to visit the immigration detention centre.

[Just Weird]

37 minutes ago, topt said:

Surprised no one has asked why he overstayed in the first place?

...because it's irrelevant?

[hobobo]

1 hour ago, InMyShadow said:

1 hour ago, bobalolo said:

I can get a new one, or a new passport from a different country.
The question is will they know I am the same person? I do not mind changing my name on a different country passport (or the same country). How sophisticate are they anyway? 
If I try to cross from a land border what is the worst that they can do if they find out?

If you have dual nationality and a legit passport then it's worth a shot. You would be crazy to try on a fake passport. Get caught and probably banned for life.

And maybe a free holiday at the Hilton - and you know which one I mean!

[Just Weird]

20 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said:

I know of one person who changed their name got a new passport and was arrested at the airport refused entry and sent back to their home country.

 

So as you have been banned for 3 years suck it up unless you have any desire to visit the immigration detention centre.

No risk of IDC; if he tries to enter (on a legit passport, of course) he will either be allowed in (if he's very lucky) or he will be refused entry and put back on a plane to where he came from. 

Edited October 24, 2017 by Just Weird

[Monkeyrobot]

James Bond & Jason Bourne use fake passports all the time with no trouble, then again Jason Bourne always has people trying to terminate him. Have you considered plastic surgery to change your look? 

[stravers]

You will be happier in Philippines as are many ex Thai expats. The locals want you there, the visa is easy, and the ladies look the same but are sweet and speak English. From there, you could tour SEA.

 

My Opinion: We are not welcome or wanted in Thai. Those that think they are welcomed/wanted are believing the illusion, which isn't always too bad as life is short but don't forget Thai is not the only option.

[brianp0803]

Are many people still unaware of the law and penslities?

 

Were you aware when you left Thailand after over-staying a year you would be banned?

 

Not relent as how to escape the penalty of his transgressions, but curious why he seemed to be unaware he would be banned ?

 

its like a wanted criminal walks into police station and identifies himself and is suprised to be arrested,

 

[JackThompson]

1 minute ago, stravers said:

You will be happier in Philippines as are many ex Thai expats. The locals want you there, the visa is easy, and the ladies look the same but are sweet and speak English. From there, you could tour SEA.

"They all look the same" ??  Not to me - and that isn't a criticism of either.  But, yes, the PI or Vietnam are good alternatives during his ban-period. 

 

1 minute ago, stravers said:

My Opinion: We are not welcome or wanted in Thai. Those that think they are welcomed/wanted are believing the illusion, which isn't always too bad as life is short but don't forget Thai is not the only option.

"Welcome or wanted in Thailand" by whom?  I grant you, there are some factions within Immigration who do not want us here, but that faction's opinion is not at all reflective of what the Thai people want.  Once you jump through the immigration-hoops, it's generally very friendly from there on.

[alex8912]

34 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

...because it's irrelevant?

It's not even slightly irrelevant.  Why don't you explain how it could be? 

By the way it IS mine and other posters business to know this so if your answer is " It's none of your business" please don't use that lame answer. 

[Paul944]

10 minutes ago, stravers said:

You will be happier in Philippines as are many ex Thai expats. The locals want you there, the visa is easy, and the ladies look the same but are sweet and speak English. From there, you could tour SEA.

 

My Opinion: We are not welcome or wanted in Thai. Those that think they are welcomed/wanted are believing the illusion, which isn't always too bad as life is short but don't forget Thai is not the only option.

While you may feel less welcome in Thailand, the chance that you get robbed, kidnapped or murdered in Thailand is way lower as in the Philippines. 

 

For the OP. Just go the Laos you can see Thailand from the Mekong river. Maybe take a boat or go for a swim  Without an entry stamp you never have to worry about overstay :D 

[Cletus]

Forget about Thailand, even after the 3 years there's a big chance you won't be allowed in.

[elviajero]

35 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

No risk of IDC; if he tries to enter (on a legit passport, of course) he will either be allowed in (if he's very lucky) or he will be refused entry and put back on a plane to where he came from. 

If he's allowed in, and it's later discovered that he's banned, it would be straight to the IDC. He is banned, not his old passport, and if he is in the country illegally he could be imprisoned for up to 2 years. I would imagine conning your way back in wouldn't go down well.

[Berkshire]

45 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

...because it's irrelevant?

Maybe relevant.  The OP may have another overstay in his future if he has the propensity to do so.  

[Just Weird]

6 minutes ago, alex8912 said:

It's not even slightly irrelevant.  Why don't you explain how it could be? 

By the way it IS mine and other posters business to know this so if your answer is " It's none of your business" please don't use that lame answer. 

Sure.  It's irrelevant because the reason for his overstay, and subsequent blacklisting, cannot affect his current position, nor the "advice" that he could be given here.

 

Perhaps you will now lamely explain how the irrelevant reason for his overstay is your business or that of anyone else

[Bluespunk]

2 hours ago, bobalolo said:

I can get a new one, or a new passport from a different country.

The question is will they know I am the same person? I do not mind changing my name on a different country passport (or the same country). How sophisticate are they anyway? 

If I try to cross from a land border what is the worst that they can do if they find out?

Are you being serious?

 

That is an insane plan.

 

Criminal as well, I suspect.