Spare the rod and spoil the child

[KarenBravo]

19 hours ago, jeab1980 said:

Any so called grown up that has to smack a child isnt worth knowing. If you get to that stage you have lost might as well pack your bags and leave.  To Rule/teach a child by fear is so wrong. But you get the well it didnt do me any harm! Well sorry it did you learned to do the same to your kids so yes it harmed you.

Well........it seemed to work in all cultures for thousands of years..........

[exemplary21]

14 hours ago, AboutThaim said:

Not all violent people are subjected to violence as kids

 

No, but there's a heightened probability that they were.

[exemplary21]

14 hours ago, AboutThaim said:

not all kids given a smack as discipline end up as violent people.

 

No, but there's a heightened probability that they will.

[exemplary21]

10 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

Parents who use physical violence as a control technique need lessons on parenting and/or anger management.

 

Exactly.

 

They don't know what to do so they just do something, anything... like dousing a fire with gasoline.

[Techno Viking]

I don't know which stung more,

Mums jug cord

Dads belt

or the school Principles cane !!

[VocalNeal]

Watched this yesterday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzYvXxKL7ic

[KarenBravo]

1 hour ago, jeab1980 said:

So that makes it ok then fair enough. Child sexual abuse seemed to thrive in all cultures for thousands of years as well is that ok?

We dont live in the past we live in the now. What may gave been classed as ok back whenever may be seen as completley wrong now. 

Quick thought for you to ponder over in UK we have 

RSPCA Royal society for protection and caring of animals. NOTE the Royal .

NSPCC National society for prevention of cruelty to children Note National.

So the Royal think more of animals than kids

 

MIDFO

.....and don't forget, the RSPCA was formed earlier than the NSPCC which confirms that the rich preferred birds over children.

What a coincidence..........so do I.

[jak2002003]

3 hours ago, steven100 said:

There's nothing wrong with getting the wooden spoon around the back of the legs or a smack on the bum.

Never hurt me and I know right from wrong because of it.

You only know right from wrong from being smacked and wacked with a spoon?

 

So people who have never been physically punished as a child don't know right from wrong?  How do you think they learn that?  Perhaps you parents should have taken a moment to tell you and guide you in the right and wrong behaviour and then they would not need to hit you.

 

 

[steven100]

1 hour ago, jak2002003 said:

You only know right from wrong from being smacked and wacked with a spoon?

 

So people who have never been physically punished as a child don't know right from wrong?  How do you think they learn that?  Perhaps you parents should have taken a moment to tell you and guide you in the right and wrong behaviour and then they would not need to hit you.

 

 

It taught me what I did was wrong and I was smacked ... as such I didn't do it again.

But your answer is counselling, or behavioral discussions, or lets refer them to a specialist.

That's the problem with the world today ....    no discipline.

lol .....  sorry ... the smacking is more affective and much quicker.

[jak2002003]

2 hours ago, steven100 said:

It taught me what I did was wrong and I was smacked ... as such I didn't do it again.

But your answer is counselling, or behavioral discussions, or lets refer them to a specialist.

That's the problem with the world today ....    no discipline.

lol .....  sorry ... the smacking is more affective and much quicker.

Exactly.... lazy and bad parenting.  If people can't spend time to educate and teach their children they should not have any.  

 

 

[brewsterbudgen]

Well........it seemed to work in all cultures for thousands of years..........

Culture is changing. Smacking your children is illegal in Sweden and, recently Scotland too. I'm sure there are more and there will definitely be more in the future.

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[ianwheldale]

On 10/28/2017 at 12:52 PM, darksidedog said:

I only ever smacked my son once, when he was about 12 or 13 and had seriously crossed a bunch of lines. I regretted doing so immediately, as I had only done so as I had lost my temper. I had a very long chat with him afterwards and explained and apologised for my actions. Thankfully, he got the message and was far more well behaved thereafter.

My dad used to lay into me for just about any infringement and I hate him to this day for it. My two kids are now good and decent adults and we still have a warm and loving relationship.

In conclusion, I have to say I do not agree that you need to hit your child to instill discipline. A good and meaningful discussion of the incident and the reasons why the actions were wrong, stays in their mind far longer than the pain of a spanking, and is more likely to earn their respect in the long run. They are also far more likely to be truthful about an incident when they are not in fear of a beating. There are other punishments that can be meted out that have better results. Grounding, loss of allowance etc.

Almost a replica of my childhood, except it was my mother whose sole method of discipline was physical assault. I vowed that I would try to be the exact opposite of her when I became a parent. Smacked my boy once, instant regret and apology and never did it again. I just made sure my kids knew right from wrong and with the odd hiccup on the way they have turned out pretty decent citizens.

[Krataiboy]

18 hours ago, Grumpy Duck said:

First, I do not refer to children as "kids". 

A child is a child a kid is a baby goat, an animal. But I guess kid is easier to type. 

I was raised with the ol saying, "wait till your father gets home" it always included the belt.  I never liked or respected my dad,  I left home at 15 years old. Joined the Army at 18.

When I raised my daughter, she seldom needed discipline. Well behaved, responded well to praise/criticism. On only one or two occasions did I respond to corporal punishment, when I did it was not out of rage I would make her stand at attention, explain what she did wrong, had her explain to me what was proper then had her grab her ankles and gave a small swat on the behind. NOT with a belt. Humiliation, her mom a first gen Korean American & I were divorced when she was 5 or 6. Mom had no time to discipline, her life was about making money, and daughter lived with a back n forth living situation. She had few friends but those she had are still close. She was good at playing one side against the other. 

Now, she is a 40 year old alcoholic who usually calls me when drunk and depressed. Mom is an old Prada monster, and all is solved by money, (Disneyland mom). 

First, I do not refer to children as "kids". 

 

 

 

What do you call your own - ducklings?

 

[KarenBravo]

5 hours ago, jeab1980 said:

How funny you have to try and make a joke out of a serious matter says it all.

 

MIDFO

Yup.....nothing's sacred.

[steven100]

13 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Culture is changing. Smacking your children is illegal in Sweden and, recently Scotland too. I'm sure there are more and there will definitely be more in the future.

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yes .... the kids can sue the parent ...absolutely ridiculous .. now the government has to tell you how to bring up your kids.   What a twisted stuffed up world we have now.

[toofarnorth]

My eldest daughter ( now 41 ) many years ago said the worst punishment I gave her was not speaking to her for 24 hours . Being ignored she must of felt outcast , I don't know to this day but she still calls me ' The old fart ' and comes out here to visit with 3 grandchidren and her hubby . I ignore my TW quite a bit but that is because I don't know what she is twittering on about.