Trust.

[stephen tracy]

On ‎11‎/‎7‎/‎2017 at 4:57 AM, connda said:

I've been married four times.  Still married to the fourth wife.  All four of my wife's at some point in time ended up sleeping with someone else.  I divorced the first three but the sexual flings didn't have a lot to do with the divorces - it was simply a symptom of a larger problem - for example, my second wife returned from a tour of duty in Iraq - and along with the PTSD and numerous physical and mental issues, she also informed me that she was gay.  I didn't take it personal, I just let her go.  I sent my third wife of 14 years back to university.  She returned with a degree, and good job, and a fiancee.  I had to rebuild my life after that one - and that really hurt.
So, when number 4 told me she that she had another guy on the side, I told her to have fun.  I had not intention of divorcing her and rebuilding my life over again, and to be really honest, I'm so far past giving a da*m about what my wife and some other swinging d**k does for 15 or 20 minutes with their genitals.  Wham, bam, pop, and Bob's your uncle - and now what?   Love?  You gotta be joking.  My 50 something old wife with some fat farang tourist?  Pfftt!  Give me a break.  I told her to come back when the novelty wore off and make sure to use a condom.  It took about 1 month.  I'm done with all the drama revolving around sex.  I'm not breaking up this marriage over an hour or so of friction and rubbing.  If she wants to go bang some other guy, have at it.  Now that she is in her late 50s I'm not sure how many takers she's going to have.  But from my perspective, I don't care about the sex - like I said - use condoms, practice safe sex, come back when it gets boring.  Outside of that hour or so of rubbing and friction, we have a life to live when she is done with her boy toy.  For you guys who can't get over jealousy.  Sorry for you.  Sex is such a dumb thing to get hung up about.  Anyway, Thailand is one of the most promiscuous countries in the world - males and females.  If you're thinking otherwise, you're simply fooling yourself. 
"But my Thai wife is different!" 
Ah-huh.  Sure.

After reading that I'm not surprised they all left you. 

[stephen tracy]

On ‎11‎/‎7‎/‎2017 at 1:38 PM, MaeJoMTB said:

8 years married  to a Thai woman I don't trust, we have children and a house together.

In what way would you say our relationship was not 'successful'?

You don't trust her.

[stephen tracy]

On ‎11‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 4:35 AM, Been there done that said:

There will be issues for most - you wrote. Good to read from you that those issues have to do with age but also cultural. 

 

What a nonsense. The overwhelming majority of thai women only stay with "us" to receive a paycheck. Sooner then later. Only on this forum i read often about true love. Jeeeezzzz what a joke !

The joke is that you deem every other male foreigner in Thailand as being "us".  Your experiences in life are not everyone else's. There's no shortage of this mentality on TV. 

[stephen tracy]

On ‎11‎/‎9‎/‎2017 at 3:23 AM, MaeJoMTB said:

It's gone, nothing you do or say will bring it back.

Women have changed, the way relationships work have changed, probably not for the better (IMHO).

Your nostalgia, and (senile) delusions can't change reality, move on, accept the world as it is.

You mean accept the world the way you personally perceive it to be.  No thanks.

[Gruff]

4 minutes ago, stephen tracy said:

You mean accept the world the way you personally perceive it to be.  No thanks.

And how do you perceive it ?  You think women are made of 'sugar and spice and all things nice' ?

[stephen tracy]

On ‎11‎/‎9‎/‎2017 at 4:57 AM, MaeJoMTB said:

I know a lot of Thais, speak read and write Thai (If I have to) live in an exclusively Thai moobaan (1 foreign guy in 250 houses, me)

Have a 19 year old Thai step-daughter at university. She won't talk socially with a man that isn't immediate family, let alone a foreign man. Entirely normal for respectable single Thai women, they don't date, they don't socialise with men, and this is her choice. Respectable married Thai women won't socialise with men unless their husband is present either, that would be most improper.

 

All my failed relationships ...... one (in England).

Lived with a Thai hooker for nearly a year, not a relationship, she was an employee.

Married a Thai lady, 8 years, 1 son, not failed (yet).

"Respectable married Thai women won't socialise with men unless their husband is present either, that would be most improper. "... maybe in the mooban that's the case, but it isn't the case everywhere. Once again, an expat who thinks his/her experiences in a given are country/place are the hard and fast rule. 

[stephen tracy]

7 minutes ago, Gruff said:

And how do you perceive it ?  You think women are made of 'sugar and spice and all things nice' ?

Ummm no, I just think generalizations spouted by bitter old (and some younger) Westerners about the female population of Thailand are absurd.  Some of the responses here are evidence that travel doesn't necessarily broaden the mind. 

[stephen tracy]

On ‎11‎/‎9‎/‎2017 at 7:36 AM, idman said:

Very simple,  TRUST IS EARNED, NEVER GIVEN.  Ignore that precept especially with the Thai Twinkies and you are a fool.

I can only assume this comment comes from the experiences you've had as a certain type of foreign visitor to Thailand that gravites  - naturally - to a certain demographic within the female population. You guys are a dime a dozen here.

[stephen tracy]

On ‎11‎/‎9‎/‎2017 at 9:39 AM, MaeJoMTB said:

Was at the start (my misses left school age 12), isn't now, as she's finished high school and half way through university.

She owns a rice farm and farmhouse outright, along with a chunk of forest in Nan.

Wish I had some land!

 

Plenty of guys on this forum been banging a young Thai woman for 6-12 months and thinks she loves them ....... boy are they in for a surprise! Thai girls are good at the long con.

 

Let's face it, no woman  - regardless of nationality - would likely be faithful to, or stay with someone like you. Being Thai has nothing to do with it.

[stephen tracy]

On ‎11‎/‎9‎/‎2017 at 7:21 PM, Gruff said:

The success stories just keep coming and full of self efficacy.  Of course though the stories of personal superiority are only told to us (not to brag) but to counter Posters who are coveniently being labelled as 'negative'.

"negative" is far too charitable a description.  Sad and breathtakingly ignorant hit the nail on the head.

[stephen tracy]

On ‎11‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 3:05 AM, MaeJoMTB said:

I never invite people to my home, that's private.

And I don't let my wife meet expats gfs/wives ....... that's asking for trouble.

And there you have it!  Your wife should run a mile. 

[stephen tracy]

On ‎11‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 7:43 AM, Gruff said:

  2 cliches in one sentence used frequently to be insulting to Posters with a different opinion. I for one am neither bitter nor jealous and please tell me in the Post from Maejo  (that you are responding to) where is there any evidence of him being bitter or jealous? 

Everything he's written on this thread. 

[stephen tracy]

30 minutes ago, Gruff said:

And how do you perceive it ?  You think women are made of 'sugar and spice and all things nice' ?

No, I'm just not a misogynist.  

[MaeJoMTB]

4 hours ago, stephen tracy said:

The joke is that you deem every other male foreigner in Thailand as being "us".  

To them we are all 'farang'. 

[stephen tracy]

47 minutes ago, MaeJoMTB said:

To them we are all 'farang'. 

"Them"... "us"... speak for yourself.

[Been there done that]

49 minutes ago, MaeJoMTB said:

To them we are all 'farang'. 

Add Kee nok and it becomes an an unwilling compliment 

[jerojero]

Four failed relationships? Time to take a long honest look in the mirror my friend.

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