First Thai to run for a seat in Queensland

[lordblackader]

1 hour ago, 4MyEgo said:

Yep, under section 44 of the Australian constitution he will have to denounces his citizenship with Thailand under Section 13 of the Thai Law, however that will be up to the Minister, and wish him the best of luck with that one.

It's a Queensland State election, not a Federal election, Section 44 doesn't apply.This is a good article explaining the difference (and even mentions the existing QLD Premier) - the short version is each Australian state has its own constitution and most barely touch on the subject. 

[aussie11950]

Good luck to him. 

Chock dee

 

[overherebc]

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

It would help on a Sunday morning...

Should be a rule.

Don't post in the morning until after the 2nd coffee is finished.

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[NanLaew]

25 minutes ago, Oziex1 said:

Yes you are correct of course and a great example of the opportunities available in a democracy. A foreigner can gain citizenship  and integrate into the society. 

Interesting to see how this is received in Thailand as a Thai doing well,  is it seen as an example of the great potential available in a modern democratic society?

 

 

If it catches on, maybe they'll all eventually bugger off downundah and leave Thailand to us!

 

Oh, wait...

[Knee Jerk Reaction]

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

No.

 

He's Thai.

He enjoys dual citizenship.

[johnarth]

3 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

He’s no longer Thai if he’s running for elected office in Australia. 

 

Or are the rules different for the governing bodies in states/territories...

no, you can not be a dual citizen there been a few kicked out lately, they trying to get a look at retired Politicians now would be a great way to get some tax money back

 

[Scouse123]

3 hours ago, Centrum said:

True. There would need to be elections first.

 

 

Well said that man! 

[Graemej100]

4 hours ago, tifino said:

but, it is a State Election, Not Federal...

The rules are the same.

[tifino]

5 minutes ago, Graemej100 said:

The rules are the same.

it varies, within each respective State...

 

WA okay

NSW okay

QLD Not ok

Victoria OK

 

etc etc etc

[Reigntax]

2 hours ago, Oziex1 said:

Yes you are correct of course and a great example of the opportunities available in a democracy. A foreigner can gain citizenship  and integrate into the society. 

Interesting to see how this is received in Thailand as a Thai doing well,  is it seen as an example of the great potential available in a modern democratic society?

 

 

He appears a reasonably intelligent person. It's a shame he has to live in a foreign country to obtain his rights of political freedom where he certainly won't be removed from office by a military coup of the ignorant and self serving.

[tryasimight]

As many previous threads attest to lying being part of the national Thai psyche.......he will be  shoo in for Aussie politics.

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, Knee Jerk Reaction said:

He enjoys dual citizenship.

He's still Thai, which the other poster [The Guest} appeared to be discounting.

Edited November 12, 2017 by Bluespunk

[tryasimight]

1 minute ago, Reigntax said:

He appears a reasonably intelligent person. It's a shame he has to live in a foreign country to obtain his rights of political freedom where he certainly won't be removed from office by a military coup of the ignorant and self serving.

He is Australian, it is now no longer a foreign country for him.

[tryasimight]

Just now, Bluespunk said:

He's still Thai, which the other poster appeared to be discounting.

Errrrr.......he is a naturalised Australian citizen. He may have dual citizenship, but so what? My guess is he has an Aussie passport.

[Bluespunk]

Just now, tryasimight said:

Errrrr.......he is a naturalised Australian citizen. He may have dual citizenship, but so what? My guess is he has an Aussie passport.

He can't have dual citizenship if he's running for office.

 

He's either just Australian or he isn't running.

[tifino]

1 minute ago, tryasimight said:

Errrrr.......he is a naturalised Australian citizen. He may have dual citizenship, but so what? My guess is he has an Aussie passport.

 

in QLD, all he needs is the 'citizenship'

 

Being 'dual' is irrelevant, at State Parliament and Local Govt levels

 

 

QLD would only be concerned, if he were Japanese, fearing the rest of the State would be sold off, for golf courses...

[tryasimight]

3 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

He can't have dual citizenship if he's running for office.

 

He's either just Australian or he isn't running.

Wrong...that's only for Federal Government not State.

[tryasimight]

1 minute ago, tifino said:

 

in QLD, all he needs is the 'citizenship'

 

Being 'dual' is irrelevant, at State Parliament and Local Govt levels

 

 

QLD would only be concerned, if he were Japanese, fearing the rest of the State would be sold off, for golf courses...

I'm looking forward to tuk tuks on the Strand in Townsville.

[Reigntax]

2 minutes ago, tryasimight said:

He is Australian, it is now no longer a foreign country for him.

 

The article refers to him a a Thai with Australian citizenship which appears to suggest he still considers himself of Thai nationality but settled permanently in Australia. Otherwise wouldn't he just be an Australian?

 

in any case Prayuth's will be happy that this type of talent is not based locally with these radical ideas of the population rising to the ruling class and this clearly, from a military point of view, democratic government ideas.

[tryasimight]

1 minute ago, Reigntax said:

 

The article refers to him a a Thai with Australian citizenship which appears to suggest he still considers himself of Thai nationality but settled permanently in Australia. Otherwise wouldn't he just be an Australian?

 

in any case Prayuth's will be happy that this type of talent is not based locally with these radical ideas of the population rising to the ruling class and this clearly, from a military point of view, democratic government ideas.

The article says he is Thai....the man himself doesn't. Sells more product that way.

[Bluespunk]

14 minutes ago, tryasimight said:

Wrong...that's only for Federal Government not State.

Ah, fair enough, that answers my original question then.

Edited November 12, 2017 by Bluespunk

[dinsdale]

6 hours ago, AGareth2 said:

if he is still Thai he can't stand

 

7 hours ago, rooster59 said:

The 39-year-old Thai, who converted to Australian citizenship, will run for a seat as the MP for the Brisbane constituency of Stafford in the November 25 poll.

Difficult as this may be to understand I think, I'm not sure, this means he is an Australian citizen.

[DekDaeng]

6 hours ago, impulse said:

 

I'd bet a case of beer it already has happened in Thailand, and the winner was Chinese.

 

But it would have to be cheap beer...

 

but Thainese is different.

 

[isitworthit]

8 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

He’s no longer Thai if he’s running for elected office in Australia. 

 

Or are the rules different for the governing bodies in states/territories...

No he renounced his Thai citizenshipand now an Aussie

[isitworthit]

8 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

He’s no longer Thai if he’s running for elected office in Australia. 

 

Or are the rules different for the governing bodies in states/territories...

No he renounced his Thai citizenshipand now an Aussie

just had a read 

cannot run if as 

a member of a State or Territory parliament, unless they have resigned before lodging a nomination;a citizen or subject of a foreign power;serving a prison sentence of 12 months or more;is an undischarged bankrupt or insolvent;holding an office of profit under the Crown (e.g. Public Servant); ora permanent member of the Australian Defence Force.

[Bluespunk]

21 minutes ago, isitworthit said:

No he renounced his Thai citizenshipand now an Aussie

I was just he could run as a dual national in state elections?

 

So that's not true?

Edited November 12, 2017 by Bluespunk

[isitworthit]

3 hours ago, tryasimight said:

Wrong...that's only for Federal Government not State.

Cannot run for State Goverment if citizen or subject of a foreign power

i just had a look thats what it says for State 

[chainarong]

Thank Christ someone has made sure or taken care  of their citizenship, not like some of the  morons in the Federal sphere in Canberra, I wish you all the best of luck mate  and hope you poll well................................

[chainarong]

12 minutes ago, isitworthit said:

Cannot run for State Goverment if citizen or subject of a foreign power

i just had a look thats what it says for State 

Correct Sir

[mfd101]

20 minutes ago, isitworthit said:

Cannot run for State Goverment if citizen or subject of a foreign power

i just had a look thats what it says for State 

Not so (for the umpteenth time - how hard is it to understand?):  s.44 of the Australian Constitution applies only to the Federal Parliament. The State & Territory Parliaments have their own rules under their own Constitutions: these are similar in many ways to the Federal provisions but they do NOT insist on a candidate for election renouncing any foreign citizenship. They merely insist, reasonably enough, that the candidate be an Australian citizen. Depending on the country of their foreign citizenship, this may mean their renouncing that foreign citizenship at the same time [because of the FOREIGN country's rules not allowing for dual citizenship], but in most cases dual citizenship will be just fine.

 

We live in a multicultural, increasingly globalized world. Surprise surprise!

Edited November 12, 2017 by mfd101