Two American tourists fined 5000 Baht for 'butt selfie' at Thai temple

[wakeupplease]

1 minute ago, bannork said:

http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/tourist-arrivals-in-thailand-by-country.html

The statistics don't back up your point.

Try looking at the British version which unlike that lot you quote do not use figures supplied by TAT

[bannork]

14 hours ago, wakeupplease said:

Try looking at the British version which unlike that lot you quote do not use figures supplied by TAT

Please show it.

[sjaak327]

This thread is astounishing in the sense that people take themselves way to serious.

 

IMHO people asking for a jail sentence or a ban from entry into Thailand for what by reasonable people can only be descriped as a harmless schoolboy prank have completely lost the plot. Seriously off base.

 

Time for the Thai to grow a sense of humour and stop being so bloody self centered. The idiots are not the two butt showers but the people screaming bloody murder.

 

If Thailand decides to jail these people,I will vote with my feet, and I hope many more will follow, why spend money in a country where the powers that be are so self centered that they cannot even take a joke.

 

 

To the overly homophobic posters on this thread, grow up and get a brain, disgusting, and levels lower than the two butt showers, the irony on this thread is astounishing. 

 

Edited December 2, 2017 by sjaak327

[lamyai3]

13 hours ago, owl sees all said:

Thailand is the butt of jokes

I see what you did there. 

[BuddyDean]

1 hour ago, wakeupplease said:

certainly it is not true in the uk

 

Sorry my friend it is true here the numbers from the UK have dropped dramatic and most people you talk to have nothing but bad things to say about the place, even Thai's living here slag it off and would not ever move back. Big changes in the last 4 years, even I am surprised at the comments made about the land of scams sorry smiles Nowadays I do not recommend the place to fellow Brits as I know what they are saying and its not nice.

Four years?  That's about when the gay British teacher cliques starting disappearing.. only because they were shown the door, even though they were more than willing to work for 2 GBP per hour, fake degrees and all.  Good riddance, plenty of sour grapes.  Thai lefty elites loving London..not surprising, they would eat a pile of goat Shiite if they thought it was HiSo.  Plenty, of other, Eurotrash, filling the white face void here..word is the Thai kids can actually understand the Ukrainians, but not the majority from inbred island.

[lamyai3]

6 hours ago, sanemax said:

TV really needs to have threads which are certified *Red bull guy free threads* where posters are not allowed to mention him , because nearly every thread, he gets a mention

You introduced him yourself in post #360

[Jingthing]

Trying to get to the 100k mark.

Who cares? I don't.

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[sanemax]

51 minutes ago, lamyai3 said:

You introduced him yourself in post #360

That was a sarcastic response to another TV typical post , the "500 Baht fine  and a wai" one

The "500 Baht fine and a wai" crops up numerous times on TV and I responded with another one of the usual TV responses .

  Do keep up .

It was satire

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, Kadilo said:

What I can't work out is does he think they have been hard done by or not?

If you're talking about my OPINION, I think the initial fine (5000 baht) and perhaps a ban from Thailand are reasonable punishments as it's already come to that at the least. I guess in an ideal world they would have been confronted when they did it and given a stern lecture about offending the local culture and never to do it again. But the the fine is OK and punishment is justified.

The more serious charges about uploading porn (I don't consider those butt shots porn) and the religious crimes each carrying multiple years in prison, I think like most reasonable people that such punishments are way over the top severe for the offense. On the religious offense, it may be objectively true, but motive/intention should be considered. It's obvious they didn't do it to disrespect any religion. They did it for their instagram theme pics. It could have been the religion of Walt Disney world that they were doing their butt shots in front of for all they were thinking about!

Edited December 2, 2017 by Jingthing

[Kadilo]

If you're talking about my OPINION, I think the initial fine (5000 baht) and perhaps a ban from Thailand are reasonable punishments as it's already come to that at the least. I guess in an ideal world they would have been confronted when they did it and given a stern lecture about offending the local culture and never to do it again. But the the fine is OK and punishment is justified.
The more serious charges about uploading porn (I don't consider those butt shots porn) and the religious crimes each carrying multiple years in prison, I think like most reasonable people that such punishments are way over the top severe for the offense. On the religious offense, it may be objectively true, but motive/intention should be considered. It's obvious they didn't do it to disrespect any religion. They did it for their instagram theme pics. It could have been the religion of Walt Disney world that they were doing their butt shots in front of for all they were thinking about!

Yes I was being sarcastic. I think anyone following this story and your hundreds of posts saying pretty much the same as above, will know your view by now.
For what it’s worth, I agree with you.

[Jingthing]

12 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Yes I was being sarcastic. I think anyone following this story and your hundreds of posts saying pretty much the same as above, will know your view by now.
For what it’s worth, I agree with you.

Thanks a bunch.

Edited December 2, 2017 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

Any updates on their status?

I assume we would have heard if they left Thailand so that means they're still being held. 

[sanemax]

22 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Any updates on their status?

I assume we would have heard if they left Thailand so that means they're still being held. 

Have you been to sleep yet, since this story broke ?

 

[Jingthing]

This is so typical of news stories especially about arrests here. You get the initial news and then sometimes you never hear about the followup. 

Edited December 3, 2017 by Jingthing

[farcanell]

18 hours ago, Bill Miller said:

You are not very bright, in my opinion.

The very first post about these guys in the first thread , not this one, remarked about a homosexual couple getting in trouble for the "butties".

Wallow on in blissfull ignorance.

Ooh.... now I see... you were talking about another thread. How silly of me not to have realized.... not to have had my eye fixed firmly on the butts, like I assume you have, given your magnificence.

 

i suppose you could have pointed this out, instead of saying that I had extremely poor judgement about something or other, and suggesting I wallow in blissful ignorance..... but.... could have, should have.... did not!.

 

So.... per my origional post, suggesting it’s you rushing to judge, by labeling other posters (26 pages back)....I offer this up as proof positive, that you are indeed that which you decried..... worthless without a label maker.

[Dagnabbit]

This is so typical of news stories especially about arrests here. You get the initial news and then sometimes you never hear about the followup. 

You think the press should post details of the pay offs?

Pretty naive.

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[sanemax]

47 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

This is so typical of news stories especially about arrests here. You get the initial news and then sometimes you never hear about the followup. 

Its so disappointing and frustrating , where are those two cuties who love showing their butts off ?

Do you think that they are still in Thailand ?

One of them have have been set free nd the other still in jail .

He could be stuck all on his lonesome in a hotel room in Bangkok , feeling lonely and in need of some consuling 

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎12‎/‎1‎/‎2017 at 3:12 PM, Jingthing said:

Even if the couple's mistake does make some people (IRRATIONALLY) dislike ALL Americans or ALL gay men or ALL foreigners (expats and tourists) in Thailand more I don't see how that should impact on the severity of their punishment. 

I had zero idea that they were homosexual from the OP, and it was only because certain posters started on about it that I now know. Far as I knew they were just two standard issue ignorant, antisocial idiots being stupid in a country that doesn't look kindly on people that insult the religion.

It shouldn't make any difference to the sentence or to the posters on this thread.

[Jingthing]

At the end of the day, no news and updates is better than fake news and updates.

 

Next ... 

[Rimmer]

Multiple off topic posts and replies talking about Laos have been removed

[ubonjoe]

A post containing a quote sniped in such a way that it make it out of context has been removed.

[Jingthing]

I want to add a curiosity about the press coverage of this story. Of course most of it has been "tongue in cheek" the fact that serious charges are being considered carrying over TEN YEARS in prison has generally being covered as well (when that information was known, which of course it wasn't on the earlier news items).

But the oddest example of coverage I found was in the Bangkok Post where rather just reporting the objective hard real news fact that they are a married couple, they were described as "buddies." Imagine if they were so shy about describing the relationship of an opposite sex couple. You can't imagine it. It would never happen. 

 

SINCE the reports that very serious charges are being considered ... nothing. 

Edited December 3, 2017 by Jingthing

[AGareth2]

22 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

SINCE the reports that very serious charges are being considered ... nothing. 

probably going in front of the beak

meanwhile they are in the nik

[Jingthing]

My assumption is the delay means they probably are working now on developing the cases to formally charge on the two very serious charges and they probably will pursue those charges.

I realize many are assuming that they will definitely be able to avoid such charges (wink wink nod nod say no more), but I don't understand how anyone can be so sure about that especially considering this case touches on national face and insults to Buddhism. 

If that happens, you can pat yourselves on the back for correct predictions. Big whoop. 

 

Edited December 3, 2017 by Jingthing

[Kadilo]

Its so disappointing and frustrating , where are those two cuties who love showing their butts off ?
Do you think that they are still in Thailand ?
One of them have have been set free nd the other still in jail .
He could be stuck all on his lonesome in a hotel room in Bangkok , feeling lonely and in need of some consuling 

Very thoughtful. I'm sure if he is he will be grateful for your offer of male company.


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[AGareth2]

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

but I don't understand how anyone can be so sure about that especially considering this case touches on national face and insults to Buddhism. 

the present govt is very keen on the CCA

and one of their remits is to protect the religion

so yes very likely to be arraigned IMO

[sanemax]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

My assumption is the delay means they probably are working now on developing the cases to formally charge on the two very serious charges and they probably will pursue those charges.

I realize many are assuming that they will definitely be able to avoid such charges (wink wink nod nod say no more), but I don't understand how anyone can be so sure about that especially considering this case touches on national face and insults to Buddhism. 

If that happens, you can pat yourselves on the back for correct predictions. Big whoop. 

 

I do think that the gov will make an example of these two

 

[Grauwulf]

20 hours ago, BuddyDean said:

Four years?  That's about when the gay British teacher cliques starting disappearing.. only because they were shown the door, even though they were more than willing to work for 2 GBP per hour, fake degrees and all.  Good riddance, plenty of sour grapes.  Thai lefty elites loving London..not surprising, they would eat a pile of goat Shiite if they thought it was HiSo.  Plenty, of other, Eurotrash, filling the white face void here..word is the Thai kids can actually understand the Ukrainians, but not the majority from inbred island.

Inbred Island?? I thought the US was a continent....oh right I get it America Land of the free etc no inbred rednecks there. No gay cliques in San Francisco or LA? Get over yourself. You call yourself a proud American ranting homophobic and racist remarks. Jeez buddy ( no pun intended) get yourself some therapy. By the way the OP was about 2 US gay cliques my friend but you carry on with your world bashing...... God bless America saviour of the world....

[oldlakey]

6 hours ago, Kadilo said:

Very thoughtful. I'm sure if he is he will be grateful for your offer of male company.


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I think he will have to to fairly smart out of the blocks, to even get near the podium

[Kadilo]

23 minutes ago, oldlakey said:

I think he will have to to fairly smart out of the blocks, to even get near the podium

Maybe it's not the podium he wants to get near.