Does any body have any experience with Suzuki Ciaz. I'm a bit concerned about a lack of power from 1250 cc engine. Similar sized cars are mainly 1500 cc.

 

 

I rented one recently and was greatly impressed.

I've rented several small cars recently. It was by far superior to any other small engined cars.

Very nippy.

You can't compare a 1250 to a 1500. But much better than an Almera.

 

 

I may be working in Indonesia so I was looking at cheap cars. I have had three Suzuki's in the past and am happy with the marque. 

Wagon R. Three cylinder 1000 cc 68 hp. Hmmm Might be a bit under powered. 

 

Then I remembered cars from my past like Escort 1300GT and Fiat 128 3P also 1300 I don't remember them being under powered. Guess what? Both around 68 HP. 

 

So Wagon R will do fine for shopping  and weekly trip to the go running/golf. Relatively it is more fun to drive a slow car fast, than a fast car slow!

Just take one for a test drive, modern engines provide plenty of torque

The speed limit here on the majority of roads is 90 kph even though the majority of drivers travel at up to 120 kph, i am sure it will easily do that and keep up with the traffic flow with no lack of power

In built up areas there are lots of traffic jams so you will be able to keep up with the traffic flow easily, The 600cc tuk tuks do

I had a Ciaz as a rental car lately and was not impressed at all. The engine is really under-powered, sure it will get you there, but it's not at all fun to drive. And the interior feels so cheap, I'd much rather have a 10 year old decent car.

Old 1500 cc engines used to produce 120 hp. New ones 200+ hp. New engines

are much much better. The only way to know if a 1250 cc engine will meet your

expectations is to take the car for a test drive.  

Old F1 cars at 1500cc used to produce nearly 1400 hp in qualifying trim. But like the above is also irrelevant to real world driving.

 

The only place I have needed any sort of real power at all is the hill going north of Saraburi past the cement works. My 90hp truck sails up there in third gear in the left lane passing most vehicles. It is 1600cc and has almost identical power to the 1350cc Ciaz engine.The key is to get into third gear at the bottom as soon as the speed drops to about 100 kph! Then maintain it up the hill. At the top return to 110-120 traffic permitting. This with 4 people and some construction gear.  

 

With modern turbo engines it all depends on how much fuel one wishes to burn as to how much Hp one gets. 

 

What car one buys is dependent on one's needs. 

 

 

I'm thinking about buying a Ciaz too, I have a March now and, you may laugh, it has more than enough power for me and my family of 4. We have been on many a long trip in it, fully loaded and had no problems overtaking, powering up hills etc.

We have a new baby and I am looking to upgrade and the Ciaz seems to be great value.  Similar cars like Nissan Sylphy, Toyota Altis are way more expensive.

 

Family is not going to get any smaller! Maybe an Ertiga? Same engine

I had a look at the Ertiga Neal and I nearly spewed, it was horrendous inside, terrible seat colours and design plus, I would like something that can perform just a little bit.  I have considered just about everything and my dream car would probably be a Mazda CX3 or 5 but may be out of my price range.

OK. In fairness my Wagon R choice will probably be the same but I will only be there maybe two years so...I remember with fondness driving a , now classic,  Fiat 500 in Italy. I had fun in that so for about $10,000  I won't complain about Wagon R

 

My friend has a Toyota Avanza but I believe the auto boxes on those are prone to problems. My neighbor had one, he did lots of miles as a salesman and fortunately it was a company car. 

I have a long term rent for a Ciaz.

 

Enormous space for your money with a huge boot and quite comfortable even with 5 passengers.

 

Under normal conditions and driving European style, the motor is more than sufficient - power comes fast after kick-down and the sports mode of the CVT is easily accessible at the gear stick.

The chassis is acceptable and IMO better than a Vios - I am still waiting for a Thai, who is driving faster on the bendy A1 in the mountains than me with the Ciaz ...

 

The only shortcoming happens, if you are driving up a really steep, narrow mountain road in the North behind a Lowland-Tyrolean from Bangkok, who is afraid of sharp bends and brakes down to nearly zero km/h. The CVT makes you wonder, if you stall the motor - alas, never happens, only the acceleration is very slow so that you wish, you had a manual gear. However, the same happened with the far smaller Suzuki Swift, I had before - it's a problem of all CVT-type automatic gear.