Massive rise in New Year lawbreaking on the Thai roads - nearly 50% more drunks

[webfact]

Massive rise in New Year lawbreaking on the Thai roads - nearly 50% more drunks

 

Picture: INN

 

A national police spokesman has given figures that show well over 300,000 people have broken the law on the Thai roads in the first three days of New Year.

 

INN news reported Krissana Pattanajaroen as saying that figures in ten main offences from December 28th to 30th showed there were 334,361 offences up 42,275 on the same period last year.

 

The top three were:

 

1. No helmet: 96,158 offences - up 20%

2. No licence: 94,453 offences - up 13%

3. No seatbelt: 43,309 offences - up 2.25%

 

Drink driving offences came in at number 8 with 9,736 offences up by 3,147 or 47.7% on last year.

 

Krissana passed on national police chief Jakthip Chaijinda's entreaty for the Thai public to follow the law and assured the nation of strict enforcement at 2,010 checkpoints nationwide.

 

Source: INN

 

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[speedtripler]

Maybe they caught 50% more people.... I think the numbers are similar every year tho

[robblok]

Wonder if it was more people breaking the law or more people  being checked. 

[speedtripler]

1 minute ago, robblok said:

Wonder if it was more people breaking the law or more people  being checked. 

Most likely the same drunks who paid  half a fine in previous years and were allowed to go on were given an actual ticket this year..... 

[Samui Bodoh]

11 minutes ago, webfact said:

Massive rise in New Year lawbreaking on the Thai roads - nearly 50% more drunks

Hmm... many possible answers...

 

One of which is that when the leaders of a society (the Junta) don't give a rat's ass about the law, normal people will follow. I can't blame the rise in drunk driving on Prayut, but a general disrespect for the law?

 

Yes.

[khwaibah]

Day 1: 48 deaths (42 last year)
Day 2: 51 deaths (71 last year)
Day 3: 78 deaths (86 last year) 
Day 4: 69 deaths (81 last year)
Day 5: 71 deaths (87 last year)
Day 6: xx deaths (59 last year)
Day 7: xx deaths (52 last year)

Total so far: 317 deaths, 3,188 injuries in 3,056 reported accidents.

 

http://www.richardbarrow.com/2017/12/full-road-accident-statistics-for-new-year-2017-2018-in-thailand/

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[robblok]

1 minute ago, Samui Bodoh said:

Hmm... many possible answers...

 

One of which is that when the leaders of a society (the Junta) don't give a rat's ass about the law, normal people will follow. I can't blame the rise in drunk driving on Prayut, but a general disrespect for the law?

 

Yes.

I know you hate the junta but stay reasonable.. far more logical that there were more checks. Your tale is funny to see how much you hate the junta to even bend these things this way. 

 

But its a good try though. 

[Denim]

Not surprised. I ventured out of our bunker to get some bread yesterday and the main road at the end of our soi was like the Bira circuit. Never seen so many people in a rush to get somewhere.

[worgeordie]

" No licence: 94,453 offences - up 13%" and therefore no insurance, obviously Government policies are not working,they are far too lax in enforcing traffic laws, also the punishments are not severe enough,  social service,is not good enough for DUI,a drunk man running about with a gun threatening people,  hopefully should get a custodial

sentence (ok maybe not),a truck,car in the hands of a DUI driver is an even more dangerous weapon,it seems they look on anyone that  criticizes the Government as a more serious offence.

 

regards worgeordie

[YetAnother]

27 minutes ago, Samui Bodoh said:

but a general disrespect for the law?

i do not believe the average thai has respect for law and order as they see no value in doing so; beyond lack of law enforcement, this lack of respect goes the the heart of current thai society

Edited January 2, 2018 by YetAnother

[Misterwhisper]

Don't kid yourself. These figures wouldn't be much different during the rest of the year... if only the police were doing their job then, too. But law enforcement in this country only seems to be restricted to some "7 dangerous days" that are being announced two or three times per year. Or does anyone in their right mind honestly believe that these 300,00+ people (who in fact are just the unlucky ones, the proverbial tip of the ice berg) are NOT driving without seat belts, helmets or license and are always completely sober before getting behind the wheel outside of these hyped-up 7-day periods? They do; and they do because they know that they have a very, very good chance of getting away with it. It's about bloody time for the government to finally declare "365 dangerous days".   

[impulse]

Looking at the Barrow link from khjwaibah, it seems drunk driving figured into over 45% of the accidents. 

 

Yet, with millions on the road, they only nabbed 9,700 for drunk driving.  I salute them for increasing that by 47% year on year.   But they have a long way to go.   It won't get safer until the probability of being caught increases.  Plus, it would be interesting to see what the current consequences are.

 

Plus, with 317 deaths over 5 days (63 per day or 23,000 in 365 days), that's less than the most likely daily death toll quoted by the WHO.  Leading to other questions...

 

Edited January 2, 2018 by impulse

[Just1Voice]

One can only wonder what Thailand would be like if they actually had a real police force.

 

[AGareth2]

stricter enforcement

cops doing their jobs for a change

[DrTuner]

I understand. Nobody can take this "government" sober.

[Odysseus123]

39 minutes ago, khwaibah said:

Day 1: 48 deaths (42 last year)
Day 2: 51 deaths (71 last year)
Day 3: 78 deaths (86 last year) 
Day 4: 69 deaths (81 last year)
Day 5: 71 deaths (87 last year)
Day 6: xx deaths (59 last year)
Day 7: xx deaths (52 last year)

Total so far: 317 deaths, 3,188 injuries in 3,056 reported accidents.

 

http://www.richardbarrow.com/2017/12/full-road-accident-statistics-for-new-year-2017-2018-in-thailand/

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I will wait until I see the stats properly adjusted for deaths that occur after the accident itself.Give it a couple of weeks and let a Westerner do the number crunching-if they can get accurate figures.

 

One should add at least 10% to the current totals.

 

Life in Wonderland-just a bunch of mad (and drunken) hatters on the roads.

[4MyEgo]

26 minutes ago, Misterwhisper said:

Don't kid yourself. These figures wouldn't be much different during the rest of the year... if only the police were doing their job then, too. But law enforcement in this country only seems to be restricted to some "7 dangerous days" that are being announced two or three times per year. Or does anyone in their right mind honestly believe that these 300,00+ people (who in fact are just the unlucky ones, the proverbial tip of the ice berg) are NOT driving without seat belts, helmets or license and are always completely sober before getting behind the wheel outside of these hyped-up 7-day periods? They do; and they do because they know that they have a very, very good chance of getting away with it. It's about bloody time for the government to finally declare "365 dangerous days".   

100% correct, but do be careful because some might tell you if you like a controlled state, to go back home, if that occurs, tell them what I told them, to go and play in the traffic and become a statistic.

 

Just goes to show how many old and disgruntled idiots are on TVF who oppose some order, especially for the good of the people, when they themselves cannot look after themselves.

 

Without order, you have no order.

[agudbuk]

Thai road deaths from Bangkok Post "Oct 21, 2558 BE · 14,059 reported road-deaths per year, 24,237 Oct 21, 2558 BE · 14,059 reported road-deaths per year, 24,237 actual deaths says WHO, deaths says WHO, "
So Thai figures average 39 per day.
WHO figures = 66 per day
This year over holiday. 62 per day.
Considering the extra number of journeys and vehicles on the road New Year seems to statiscally be a safer time to travel



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[BTB1977]

The raise in the numbers are only due to the police putting in 20% more effort into doing their job. Not hard to to understand. 

[NanLaew]

46 minutes ago, Just1Voice said:

One can only wonder what Thailand would be like if they actually had a real police force.

 

Sterile, anodyne, expensive.

 

...like Singapore.

[wgdanson]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

in the first three days of New Year.

It's only the 2nd today.     What were offences 4,5,6 & 7 if drunk driving was 8?

[janclaes47]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Massive rise in New Year lawbreaking on the Thai roads - nearly 50% more drunks

 

Should read, police have upped their job and checked 50% more road users this year.

[bluesofa]

26 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

It's only the 2nd today.     What were offences 4,5,6 & 7 if drunk driving was 8?

Observing the speed limit

Driving with due care or attention

Stopping at a red light

Driving with an offensive wife

[Megasin1]

The numbers will go up towards the end. To expect the Thais to concentrate on something for 7 days is a bit too much. Targets should be set in achievable chunks...maybe 3 days would be a good target to set first.

[connda]

Maybe 50% more cops put their smart phones away and actually checked vehicles? 

[Sir Dude]

To have caught so many people without licenses in such a short space of time is ludicrous as that also means no insurance or maybe no tax too. The penalties for such infractions are simply too lenient and until that changes then why would the average Thai care to obey the law? I'm not advocating the extremes but some offences need to be made so that it isn't worth the risk of doing it due to an acceptably harsh punishment that is proportionate to the crime and it's potential effects on other people. The way to stop this kind of carefree nonsense on the roads is to hit them in the pocket properly as that's all they understand really.

[Pattaya28]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Drink driving offences came in at number 8 with 9,736 offences

If over 9,000 were caught, how many were not caught ? 100,000, 200.000 ?

Add to that those on drugs, the statistic must be in excess of 1/4 of a million.

Mind boggling.

And nobody cares. 

Just, as always, plenty of bla bla bla,

[AsiaCheese]

2 hours ago, Misterwhisper said:

Don't kid yourself. These figures wouldn't be much different during the rest of the year... if only the police were doing their job then, too. But law enforcement in this country only seems to be restricted to some "7 dangerous days" that are being announced two or three times per year. Or does anyone in their right mind honestly believe that these 300,00+ people (who in fact are just the unlucky ones, the proverbial tip of the ice berg) are NOT driving without seat belts, helmets or license and are always completely sober before getting behind the wheel outside of these hyped-up 7-day periods? They do; and they do because they know that they have a very, very good chance of getting away with it. It's about bloody time for the government to finally declare "365 dangerous days".   

 

Couldn't agree more. And in any case, the number of deaths shown for the "7 dangerous days" actually prove the point - they tend to be below the statistical average of nearly 66 per day, every day. Continuous/actual law enforcement, proper (e.g. beyond pocket lint) fines for drunk driving, no license, ignoring red lights etc. would do the trick. But then, let's just dream on - not going to happen.

[Araiwah]

This is the result of centuries of people not respecting the law or it's enforcers and centuries of paying the enforcers tea money to look the other way.

[Artisi]

2 hours ago, Denim said:

Not surprised. I ventured out of our bunker to get some bread yesterday and the main road at the end of our soi was like the Bira circuit. Never seen so many people in a rush to get somewhere.

That should read, "in a rush to die."