Three shot dead in Mae Hong Son over neighbourhood noise

[webfact]

Three shot dead in Mae Hong Son over neighbourhood noise

By The Nation

 

 

The son-in-law of a Mae Hong Son hotel operator allegedly shot to death three people in a khao tom shop next door early Friday because their customers were making too much noise.

 

Kitti Apaiphakdee called police at 4am to arrest him at the scene of the shooting in Pai district.

 

Police say he admitted to killing Banthit Jirathandol and his wife, Yaowalak Moolmirat, who owned 25 Hour, the small restaurant selling boiled rice, as well as their employee, Thanakorn Witthayabamrung.

 

Kitti, manager of the Ruean Fade 2 Hotel next door and son-n-law of the owner, told police he’d initially fired his 9mm pistol into the sky out of anger because the khao tom shop was staying open late with noisy, drunken patrons who were disturbing the guests at his hotel.

 

He said Banthit and Thanakorn came to the hotel to confront him and he shot them, then got a rifle from his room, walked to the rice shop and killed Yaowalak.

 

Neighbours told police that noise from the food shop had long been an issue with the hotel proprietors, whose guests sometimes checked out at night because they couldn’t sleep.

 

The legal 2am closing time does not apply to khao tom shops, so they tend to be popular with late-night drinkers.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30335470

 

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[Bluespunk]

20 minutes ago, webfact said:

Neighbours told police that noise from the food shop had long been an issue with the hotel proprietors, whose guests sometimes checked out at night because they couldn’t sleep.

Have had problems with a very noisy karaoke place in past, sleep deprivation causes very irrational thoughts and behaviour at times. 

 

I’d like to think I’d never kill because of it, thankfully had a whole condo of people complaining (some of them connected) about the noise and the place was shut down. 

[tracker1]

Shoot first complain after !

[Get Real]

Great solution! Freedom lost!

[shady86]

Seems like he had no choice since talking and law enforcement doesn't solve problem. Hopefully he will be given a lighter sentence.

[mercman24]

they just got no <deleted> brains full stop, he could have set fire to the place, problem solved

[Orton Rd]

2 hours ago, tracker1 said:

Shoot first complain after !

He had complained, it's pointless and it's like complaining about peoples kids or dogs, they just take offence and cannot understand.

[CGW]

Believe it would be fair to say he made his point! they should have listened - no sympathy, hope he gets off lightly, Thailand needs more like him, maybe not quite so extreme though!

[ChouDoufu]

better option would have been drink a few,

drive pickup into the shop.  claim brake

failure.  sorry, sorry.  500 baht fine.

[lonewolf99]

Good point...weapon of choice for murder = normally guns or knives = equals long jail sentence.

 

Motor vehicle = Accident = small fine at the worst....

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Have had problems with a very noisy karaoke place in past, sleep deprivation causes very irrational thoughts and behaviour at times. 

 

I’d like to think I’d never kill because of it, thankfully had a whole condo of people complaining (some of them connected) about the noise and the place was shut down. 

I once stayed at a Penang hotel with a Chinese theatre across the road. I asked at reception what time it stopped and was told about 10pm. At 3 am with it still going strong I would have cheered if someone had shot the lot of them.

[anon467848]

He had a 9mm pistol and a rifle. No shortage of weapons in LOS. Probably why my wife keeps scolding me when I have road rage moment.... 

[Thian]

We once stayed in kanchanaburi, nice hotel at the river, all fine untill those party floats came passing by with superloud music....every 30 seconds another one untill deep in the night.

 

Will never ever go back to Kanchanaburi.

[YetAnother]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

because their customers were making too much noise.

love to hear it; once thais grudgingly accept there is a benefit from rising from primitiveness, they Might understand noise pollution

[grollies]

46 minutes ago, Thian said:

We once stayed in kanchanaburi, nice hotel at the river, all fine untill those party floats came passing by with superloud music....every 30 seconds another one untill deep in the night.

 

Will never ever go back to Kanchanaburi.

Ah, the delights of the floating river raft hotels of Kanchanaburi. After a day on the railway and museum, sightseeing with my two eldest sons, we decided to stay the night in anticipation of elephant trekking the next day.

 

We pulled up at the hotel downstream from all the others, the relevance of which will become apparent.

 

After dragging our cases to the ultimate end floating rooms we relaxed on the loungers taking in the beautiful scenery, watching the party rafts float by as well as numerous guests, adorned with life jackets, jumping into the river and riding the current.

 

Dinner that night was an adequate buffet affair. After dinner and coffee we settled for after dinner whiskey and then to bed. There were a couple of parties going on, the biggest a group of katoeys from BKK. They had already teased my eldest, grabbing his bum as we squeezed past them on the way back from dinner.

 

We awoke the following morning to moderate rainfall and a subsequent rise in river level. Looking forward to breakfast we walked past the chaos of the party onto the dining landing stage.

 

As we approached the stage, with tourists still enjoying the torrent the river had become, we became aware of the absolute deluge of human excrement, washing down and becoming trapped in the mooring ropes, gangways and other debris traps. The stink was overwhelming and needless to say we skipped breakfast and checked out.

 

I agree, for different reasons, we'll never stay on those rafts again.

 

48 minutes ago, Thian said:

 

 

[jacko45k]

18 hours ago, webfact said:

The legal 2am closing time does not apply to khao tom shops, so they tend to be popular with late-night drinkers.

Surely some licence is required for late hour alcohol sales!

[Thian]

13 hours ago, grollies said:

Ah, the delights of the floating river raft hotels of Kanchanaburi. After a day on the railway and museum, sightseeing with my two eldest sons, we decided to stay the night in anticipation of elephant trekking the next day.

 

We pulled up at the hotel downstream from all the others, the relevance of which will become apparent.

 

After dragging our cases to the ultimate end floating rooms we relaxed on the loungers taking in the beautiful scenery, watching the party rafts float by as well as numerous guests, adorned with life jackets, jumping into the river and riding the current.

 

Dinner that night was an adequate buffet affair. After dinner and coffee we settled for after dinner whiskey and then to bed. There were a couple of parties going on, the biggest a group of katoeys from BKK. They had already teased my eldest, grabbing his bum as we squeezed past them on the way back from dinner.

 

We awoke the following morning to moderate rainfall and a subsequent rise in river level. Looking forward to breakfast we walked past the chaos of the party onto the dining landing stage.

 

As we approached the stage, with tourists still enjoying the torrent the river had become, we became aware of the absolute deluge of human excrement, washing down and becoming trapped in the mooring ropes, gangways and other debris traps. The stink was overwhelming and needless to say we skipped breakfast and checked out.

 

I agree, for different reasons, we'll never stay on those rafts again.

 

 

Those rafts are really pathetic, most of them had only 4-8 customers onboard who even couldn't speak to eachother cause of the very loud music which one could hear from far far away. Even in our hotelroom we couldn't speak when they were passing.

 

The whole province must be suffering from them, who will go back there? They give whole kanchanaburi a bad reputation.

 

Now i wouldn't mind if once in 30 minutes a party raft like that was passing but 2 in every minute is very extreme, and they even didn't have customers.

 

But the noise is everywhere along the waterways in Thailand, BKK also has huge partyships which make loads of noise, and so do the longtailboats without exhaustpipes and jetski's.

 

Thailand is far far behind the developed world for noise pollution. How can anybody study or even think when hearing all that noise?

[connda]

That pretty much takes care of both the rice soup shop and the hotel.  They either close or will be under new management.
When all that Thai 'cool heart' stuff goes out the window to be replaced by the white hot ember of burning anger, it seems people die.  Must be why 'cool heart' is such a cultural necessity otherwise people would be killing each other at the drop of a hat.  Just drive on a Thai road to see exactly how much 'cool heart' actually exists in Thailand.  Very little actually. 
Put a man or a woman behind the wheel of a vehicle with darkened windows, and you'll find out exactly what they are made of and what makes them tick.

[boomerangutang]

Probably a good move, that Thai city fathers outlaw farang owning guns.  I've never owned a gun and and not a gun-hugger, but more than a few times I (a farang) thought of getting a gun.  There are three things in Thailand that inspire me to do so:   thieves, dogs and noise-makers.  

 

[boomerangutang]

6 minutes ago, connda said:

That pretty much takes care of both the rice soup shop and the hotel.  They either close or will be under new management.
When all that Thai 'cool heart' stuff goes out the window to be replaced by the white hot ember of burning anger, it seems people die.  Must be why 'cool heart' is such a cultural necessity otherwise people would be killing each other at the drop of a hat.  Just drive on a Thai road to see exactly how much 'cool heart' actually exists in Thailand.  Very little actually. 
Put a man or a woman behind the wheel of a vehicle with darkened windows, and you'll find out exactly what they are made of and what makes them tick.

Regarding: driving and other things done by Thais, ....often they don't even know they're being rude.   Really.   Thais have hundreds of cultural rules they know are forbidden, such as touching a foot to another person's head.  Yet rude driving is off their radar.  Same with phone etiquette, tossing trash everywhere, disciplining their dogs, etc ad nauseum.  

 

....just make sure you don't step over a Thai person's outstretched legs, who is sitting on the floor.

[Krataiboy]

I can hardly sleep these days with all those bloody guns going off everywhere.

[YetAnother]

20 hours ago, webfact said:

The legal 2am closing time does not apply to khao tom shops

why in the world not ?

[amvet]

Didn't like noise and shot 3 people?  What was his Thaivisa name?

[djayz]

That's one way to deal with noisy neighbours.... ?

[stevenl]

21 hours ago, shady86 said:

Seems like he had no choice since talking and law enforcement doesn't solve problem. Hopefully he will be given a lighter sentence.

A lighter sentence? Killing 2, then going home, get a rifle and kill number 3? Cold blooded murder.

[boomerangutang]

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

A lighter sentence? Killing 2, then going home, get a rifle and kill number 3? Cold blooded murder.

Murder, perhaps.  'cold blooded.....' doubtful. 

Thais need to understand that creating an offenses can take many forms.

 

If I say you're an idiot from 100 meters away, that will annoy you.

However, if go to your wedding and shout in your face, 'you're an idiot!' ....that would be grounds for punching me in the face.

 

People have senses.  We have sight.  We have sense of smell.   We have ears.   We have tactile senses.  I tried explaining this to a Thai head monk who was broadcasting the same song loudly - every day for years.  Yes, he would broadcast the same song, about 14 times/day, 365 days/yr. for 7 years.  The head monk didn't understand how rude he was being to the 5,000 people within earshot.

 

To relate it to smell:  If I dump all my toilet waste in front of your front door of your house, that will annoy you on several levels.   It offends your sense of smell, plus it's very rude.   Sound travels also.  And loud sounds cross property boundaries and invade houses.  It's offensive and rude.  If done extremely, is it grounds to shoot the perpetrator dead?   Maybe not, but it's close.

 

 

[uncleeagle]

Who can blame him. Noise is torture,  he was tortured, he responded, the inconsiderate noise makers got what they deserved. I hope his sentence is light.

[TKDfella]

Oh so he was worried about the noise keeping his clients awake eh? I bet hearing gunshots made his hotel clients feel much better...I don't think.

[holy cow cm]

Seems everyone has a gun in Thailand. 

[sawadee1947]

In a certain way I can understand this case. Thai can only loud. On the roads with special exhausters, at Karaoke, with any kind of music.

And if you ask the police for support, they would only laugh