TKDfella Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Okay, I can understand a woman who my buy different coloured watches to match what fashion she'll wear. I can understand a chap buying a gold watch for whatever reason...but owning 19 watches, and those that I've seen displayed in the news being multi-functional. What possible reason is there for that? I could understand someone Jacques Cousteau have different watches depending on his adventures but the DPM is hardly likely to be an adventurer of that caliber. I wonder if he has a ship's captain outfit and yacht to match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Perhaps he is planning to open a watch-shop, once he retires from public 'service', maybe becoming an entrepreneur somewhere like the UK even, following another ex-politicians' recent-example ? Let's hope he gets the opportunity to do so, very soon ! "Come In Number-2, Your Time Is Up !" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 7 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said: If this story is even half true and he owns all these watches without declaring them or demonstrating where he got the money to pay for them... ...why is he still in the cabinet? Rhetorical question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, TKDfella said: Okay, I can understand a woman who my buy different coloured watches to match what fashion she'll wear. I can understand a chap buying a gold watch for whatever reason...but owning 19 watches, and those that I've seen displayed in the news being multi-functional. What possible reason is there for that? I could understand someone Jacques Cousteau have different watches depending on his adventures but the DPM is hardly likely to be an adventurer of that caliber. I wonder if he has a ship's captain outfit and yacht to match? As has been pointed out earlier in the thread, most of these watches do not lose value, and indeed many of them increase in value. Thus, they are seen as an investment and readily converted to cash. People collect stamps, Buddha amulets, coins, etc. Why not watches if you have the money to spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzupnow Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 7 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said: If this story is even half true and he owns all these watches without declaring them or demonstrating where he got the money to pay for them... ...why is he still in the cabinet? stupid question,he is the only person in the cabinet that can tell time!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerkinsCuthbert Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Don't hear too much news of the junta leader's brother these days, do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohy Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Disappointed that there is no comment from junta lover Steven100 one hopes hes well and not lost an expensive watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDfella Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, GarryP said: As has been pointed out earlier in the thread, most of these watches do not lose value, and indeed many of them increase in value. Thus, they are seen as an investment and readily converted to cash. People collect stamps, Buddha amulets, coins, etc. Why not watches if you have the money to spare. While I agree to some extent, stamps and coins have an historical fascination and Amulets are a matter of spiritual significance. That cannot be said of in the present case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retiredandhappyhere Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, kensisaket said: I worked with a Thai company in Bangkok for several years. Owning expensive watches was common among the higher paid Thai's (status symbol). It's not a crime to own an expensive watch(s). It is if you cannot explain how you managed to pay for it (or them), particularly if you supposedly own about 30 million bahts worth of them and, in addition, have apparently increased your other assets by a further 30 million in the last 5 or 6 years on a salary alleged to be no more than one million per year. Lucky for us, the NACC is on the case, so we can be sure of a totally transparent, impartial and fair investigation into this particular case. Edited January 12, 2018 by Retiredandhappyhere correction of typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 He is outwardly telling everybody that he is immune to any possible legal action on him even though everybody knows he could never can afford these watches from his official salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retiredandhappyhere Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 3 hours ago, kensisaket said: Declared or not, this is obviously a witch hunt. Additionally, the operative word here is "owned". Just like owning several cars over a lifetime. Trading up is not uncommon. To my knowledge, when you "trade up" your car over the years, you still end up with only one car and not 19! The Junta has made massive claims about reducing or eliminating corruption, so it is no "witch hunt" when a leading member is asked to explain his unusual wealth. Not to do so would confirm to the general public that the Junta is not serious about its intentions regarding corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmicbkktxl Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, khunpa said: Sure, but I think we all know this is just due to a “mistake” :-D honest mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaleboneman Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 5 hours ago, bra said: A lot of bar girls will be green with envy when they see all of these watches. I don't think he would have sold HIS body to get the watches - but what did he sell??? His soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marqus12 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) Edited January 12, 2018 by marqus12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megasin1 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 I think it was all just a misinterpretation in the translation of the Thai language - I don't think they said they would clean up corruption, what they meant was they would clean up on corruption. As soon as they get the Airport concessions sorted they will be set for life. I have a friend who collects expensive watches ... and yes, the right ones do increase in value, he just doesn't feel the need to be discreet about his ill gotten gains, if he'd taken big brown envelopes he could have posted facebook pictures of himself with piles and piles of 1000 baht notes and advertised some whitening cream whilst he was at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 7 hours ago, missoura said: Even with all those watches, I'm wondering if he was ever late for meetings... Never...the meeting never start until HE arrives:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Well, if nothing else, they help to distract one from the rest of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 41 minutes ago, Megasin1 said: I think it was all just a misinterpretation in the translation of the Thai language - I don't think they said they would clean up corruption, what they meant was they would clean up on corruption. As soon as they get the Airport concessions sorted they will be set for life. I have a friend who collects expensive watches ... and yes, the right ones do increase in value, he just doesn't feel the need to be discreet about his ill gotten gains, if he'd taken big brown envelopes he could have posted facebook pictures of himself with piles and piles of 1000 baht notes and advertised some whitening cream whilst he was at it. '... advertised some whitening cream whilst he was at it.' The cream won't help. Even if he can find it, he's probably forgotten what to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 A lot of 'good' friends must have passed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Who the hell could remember all the kick backs in one's life???? Give him peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kensisaket Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Retiredandhappyhere said: To my knowledge, when you "trade up" your car over the years, you still end up with only one car and not 19! The Junta has made massive claims about reducing or eliminating corruption, so it is no "witch hunt" when a leading member is asked to explain his unusual wealth. Not to do so would confirm to the general public that the Junta is not serious about its intentions regarding corruption. The article did say "owned"; and, was not specific over what period of time. I'm sure he has more than one watch, 19 maybe. I made more than one comment on this post; and, can tell you from personal experience that expensive watches are status symbols for the wealthy in Thailand. I still believe that this may be backlash for going after the Shinawatra'; thus, my reference to a witch hunt. If you get a chance to talk to some of the Thai military try to get them to open up about promotions, making the military a career, assignments etc. A lot of those things involve paying off someone in the higher echelon. I believe the police are the same way. You can make your own assumptions about the junta and how they gained a lot of their wealth based on what I just said. It's damn near impossible for a farong to think like a Thai; however, it's not out of the realm of possibility that they may not even consider that to be corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieqw Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 7 hours ago, eggers said: I'll repeat myself, yet again, they likely to be "authentic copy" watches & he's taking the media for a ride....It proves the point, the media is full of mindless, story-tellers who can't disseminate fact from fiction !! But he’s already said that he borrowed one of them from a friend, I mean who would lend out a 1st copy ?? Besides what about all the crackdowns on copies ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4UCorsair Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Give the guy a break. He's a poorly paid militafy officer. Sent from my [device_name] using http://Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 5 hours ago, khunpa said: True, displaying them in public is totally stupid and I am sure any smart person, would not do that... I guess, we can then conclude that he is pretty ......... ;-) and privileged and unashamed, one of Thailand's untouchables, it's like the House of lords in the UK you can fiddle your expenses, never turn up and still collect your money, nothing happens to them either, backbone of society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie61 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 11 hours ago, colinneil said: If this storyis true it just shows the arrogance/ hypocrisy of this man and his cronies. We will stamp out corruption, but continue being corrupt ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 No ... he has only ever owned one watch at any one time ... he trades it in and gets another ... does it every few days ... has a 'special relationship' with the shop ... where have I heard special relationship before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Next stop NK Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 The sad thing is that the government seems to live in the 18th century and I doubt those modern watches can show dates from that century Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeupplease Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Has anyone ever asked him the time and can he even tell the time? Maybe he thinks buying new watches will help him learn to tell the time. For god sake someone buy him a speaking clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 12 hours ago, eggers said: I'll repeat myself, yet again, they likely to be "authentic copy" watches & he's taking the media for a ride....It proves the point, the media is full of mindless, story-tellers who can't disseminate fact from fiction !! Possible, but you yourself don't actually believe that for an instant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retiredandhappyhere Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 6 hours ago, kensisaket said: The article did say "owned"; and, was not specific over what period of time. I'm sure he has more than one watch, 19 maybe. I made more than one comment on this post; and, can tell you from personal experience that expensive watches are status symbols for the wealthy in Thailand. I still believe that this may be backlash for going after the Shinawatra'; thus, my reference to a witch hunt. If you get a chance to talk to some of the Thai military try to get them to open up about promotions, making the military a career, assignments etc. A lot of those things involve paying off someone in the higher echelon. I believe the police are the same way. You can make your own assumptions about the junta and how they gained a lot of their wealth based on what I just said. It's damn near impossible for a farong to think like a Thai; however, it's not out of the realm of possibility that they may not even consider that to be corruption. Oh, so that makes it OK then. I robbed a bank last week but that's OK as I don't consider that a crime! However, as I am not a member of the current government, no doubt they would take a different view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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