SURVEY: Do you want Trump to finish his first term?

[boomerangutang]

28 minutes ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

So the minority of people polled don’t want trump to finish his first term. And the minority basically thinks that the majority is wrong /uninformed/dumb/uneducated and have the most posts In here. Eco-chamber confirmed. 

In late-30's Germany, the majority of Germans wanted a loud self-aggrandizing man to lead them. Look how well that turned out.  As far as I've heard, Hitler didn't abuse women and didn't lie constantly.   As for Trump (in the comparison) to his credit, he doesn't kill people on a large scale.  ....not yet, anyway, other than a few bombs dropped in the Middle East.  Hopefully, the US won't go to war needlessly during Trump's time near the Football.

[Berkshire]

Sorry, but this is just too funny.  No, it's not about policy or Trump's latest psycho episode.  But this is the sort of thing that would upset Trump more than the stock market dropping a 1,000 points or the threat of nuclear war.  I mean, this goes to his manhood.  I almost feel sorry for the guy.  But it's just too freakin funny....

 

 

[UncleTouchyFingers]

1 minute ago, boomerangutang said:

As far as I've heard, Hitler didn't abuse women and didn't lie constantly.

 

Wow... Just wow. 

[Thakkar]

31 minutes ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

 

 

So you speak for the minority. Gotcha. 

 

And you openly state that you detest the majority of Thaivisa posters who support trump and want to see him finish his first term. Yep buddy that’s called bigotry. Grade A bigotry. And hate. Can probably call it hate speech too. It’s also called hypocrisy, considering you are a so-called social liberal. 

I don’t know how you do it, but you’ve done it (within your head, anyway): you’ve perverted the normal meanings of everyday words and phrases like “bigotry”, “hate speech”, and even “so-called” to the extent that only you seem to understand them.

 

As they say in the horror movies, “it’s coming from inside the house!”

 

In other words, the echo chamber is in your own head.

[UncleTouchyFingers]

11 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

I don’t know how you do it, but you’ve done it (within your head, anyway): you’ve perverted the normal meanings of everyday words and phrases like “bigotry”, “hate speech”, and even “so-called” to the extent that only you seem to understand them.

 

As they say in the horror movies, “it’s coming from inside the house!”

 

In other words, the echo chamber is in your own head.

 

Dude literally states he detests people who support trump and want to see him finish his term (majority of thaivisa poll contributors) That is top shelf grade-A textbook bigotry, and liberal hypocrisy, and not only that, but he feels that way to a majority of posters who contributed to this thread and the poll. 

 

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A stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/bigotry

 

And what you are doing in response is called ad hom deflection, clearly because you cant face this fact. 

[Becker]

1 hour ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

 

 

So you speak for the minority. Gotcha. 

 

And you openly state that you detest the majority of Thaivisa posters who support trump and want to see him finish his first term. Yep buddy that’s called bigotry. Grade A bigotry. And hate. Can probably call it hate speech too. It’s also called hypocrisy, considering you are a so-called social liberal. 

No "buddy', detesting the man-child base is not bigotry, it's common sense and decency. 

 

PS. Are we feeling particularly snowflaky today? Hate speach??

 

 

[isaanbanhou]

1 minute ago, Becker said:

No "buddy', detesting the man-child base is not bigotry, it's common sense and decency. 

 

PS. Are we feeling particularly snowflaky today? Hate speach??

 

 

UncleTouchyFingers.....what an apt  name.   

[UncleTouchyFingers]

6 minutes ago, Becker said:

No "buddy', detesting the man-child base is not bigotry, it's common sense and decency. 

 

PS. Are we feeling particularly snowflaky today? Hate speach??

 

 

 

Yep hes doubling down on stupid. 

 

Ad hom and laughing emojis just tells me you’re irritated & upset with the truth and trying to deflect like a 13 year old child. 

 

Its facinating to me that you have such an open hatered for people like me and most other poll participants here and see nothing wrong with that. 

[Becker]

5 minutes ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

 

Yep hes doubling down on stupid. 

 

Ad hom and laughing emojis just tells me you’re irritated & upset with the truth and trying to deflect like a 13 year old child. 

 

Its facinating to me that you have such an open hatered for people like me and most other poll participants here and see nothing wrong with that. 

And it's fascinating to me that there are people who still support and defend the moral monstrosity in the WH. 

Irritated and upset with the truth? You wouldn't recognize the truth if it fell on top of your head from a great height.

I must add that being called stupid by a man-child supporter is just wonderfully ironic.

[UncleTouchyFingers]

4 minutes ago, Becker said:

And it's fascinating to me that there are people who still support and defend the moral monstrosity in the WH. 

 

Well buddy good luck on your hatred, hypocrisy and bigotry goals of 2018. 

 

PS: You might not want to let Trump live rent-free in your head anymore. 

[Becker]

17 minutes ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

 

Well buddy good luck on your hatred, hypocrisy and bigotry goals of 2018. 

 

PS: You might not want to let Trump live rent-free in your head anymore. 

Well Uncle Touchy, good luck with trying to get your definitions of various nouns in line with the rest of the world. You've got a looong road ahead of you.

[JHolmesJr]

another trump bashing thread...yet he thunders on....now they have nothing so its his hair....5555

 

 

[Thakkar]

52 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said:

another trump bashing thread...yet he thunders on....now they have nothing so its his hair....5555

 

 

What hair??

[UncleTouchyFingers]

24 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

People who support Trump, are deplorable—plain and simple, and deserving of disdain and to be marked as bigots.

 

That’s beyond messed up. I’m actually kinda shocked you posted it, and it’s allowed. 

[Ron19]

A post against forum rules has been removed.

[Thakkar]

9 minutes ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

 

That’s beyond messed up. I’m actually kinda shocked you posted it, and it’s allowed. 

Nice deplorable job of editing out the supporting facts.

[Jingthing]

Again, this poll is not in any way a clean pro "trump" or anti "trump" question. That's because a significant percentage of people that identify as anti-"trump" prefer that "trump" finish his first term because Mike Pence would replace him if he doesn't, who they see as even worse. 

[Thakkar]

3 hours ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

 

Dude literally states he detests people who support trump and want to see him finish his term (majority of thaivisa poll contributors) That is top shelf grade-A textbook bigotry, and liberal hypocrisy, and not only that, but he feels that way to a majority of posters who contributed to this thread and the poll. 

 

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/bigotry

 

And what you are doing in response is called ad hom deflection, clearly because you cant face this fact. 

*edited*

 

How is it bigotry to detest anyone who continues to support a President who has shown himself again again to be either a racist or unequivocally pandering to a racist base?

 

Trump called people who marched with Nazis “very fine people” - good people do not march with Nazis.

 

Trump accused the vast majority of Mexicans crossing the border of being “rapists, bringing drugs, bringing crimes”

 

Trump repeatedly sidestepped opportunities to renounce or even disavow support of former White Supremacist leader of the KKK, David Duke.

 

Trump called supporters who beat up a Latino homeless man “passionate” and refused to distance himself from them or their action.

 

Trump explicitly called for a ban on ALL Muslims entering the US—textbook profiling.

 

Trump accused an American-born, Mexican-heritage judge of bias —effectively himself both confirming his anti-Mexican racism and reinforcing same with the bias accusation.

 

Trump was the poster boy for the overtly racist, despicable and utterly baseless Obama birther conspiracy.

 

Trump endorsed & campaigned for Roy Moore who spoke positively about slavery & who called for a Muslim member of Congress not to be seated because of his religion.

 

Trump a used HRC of “secret meeting with international banks to plot the destruction of US sovereignty” —using fascist code for “Jews”

 

Trump declared he didn’t want blacks counting the money at his casinos because they couldn’t be trusted, but wanted “short guys that wear yarmulke” simultaneously denigrating blacks and stereotyping Jews—a twofer.

 

In a meeting with Navajo veterans of WW II, Trump mocked Elizabeth Warren as “Pocahontas.”

 

Trump referred to a Hispanic Miss Universe as “Miss Housekeeping”

 

Trump gave high-profile support to, and then pardoned  a sherif convicted of racial profiling.

 

Trump has repeatedly retweeted white nationalists without apology.

 

And that’s just a very short list that took me all of ten minutes to compile.

 

When it comes to people who support such a man, accusing them of bigotry is hardly unreasonable.

[Luckysilk]

2 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:

another trump bashing thread...yet he thunders on....now they have nothing so its his hair....5555

 

 

I’m pleased with the poll - I had assumed the vast majority of decent Americans had given up on these President bashing threads with the obnoxious name calling and posts. 

[Jingthing]

Just now, Luckysilk said:

I’m pleased with the poll - I had assumed the vast majority of decent Americans had given up on these President bashing threads with the obnoxious name calling and posts. 

Dude, it is not a clean pro vs. con "trump" poll. Many anti "trump" people want him to finish because Pence would replace him. Don't act like you don't get that.

[wayned]

He's totally lost it!  I just watched the oval office interview about the termination/resigning of Rob Porter for spousal abuse and not being able to get a permanent security clearance.  He said absolutely nothing about his two ex wives and girlfriend and praised him and wished him luck!  I was expecting him to get a Presidential Medal of Freedom out of his pocket and award it to him in absentia!  I doubt that Raj Shah will be seen on TV again after admitting that the white house could have handled the situation better as he's already in Hicks's dace for letting it happen!

 

It will be interesting to see his response to the offer that Kim Jong Un made to the president of Korea about having a meeting with him in  Pyongyang and what Moon tells Trump to do with the upcoming US and South Korea military drills after the Olympics.  It looks like little rocket man is a better chess player.

[heybruce]

5 hours ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

 

 

So you speak for the minority. Gotcha. 

 

And you openly state that you detest the majority of Thaivisa posters who support trump and want to see him finish his first term. Yep buddy that’s called bigotry. Grade A bigotry. And hate. Can probably call it hate speech too. It’s also called hypocrisy, considering you are a so-called social liberal. 

Please note that the poll doesn't ask if people support Trump, it asks if people want him to finish his first term.  There is a difference.

 

Also note that those who want Trump out are giving good reasons for wanting that.  The "majority" (in your opinion) aren't posting as much because it is difficult to defend having him in office.

[Jingthing]

There are actually a number of very good reasons to BOTH oppose "trump" AND prefer him to finish his first term. In my case, I think "trump" is so atrociously bad that those arguments don't move me, but I understand them and respect them.

 

For example, if "trump" is forcefully removed or pressured to resign for even the most horrendous of treasonous crimes, he still won't lose his loyal base. Many in that base are very EXTREMIST and usually have guns. Some have even threatened violence and civil war if "trump" is removed for any reason. 

[heybruce]

19 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

There are actually a number of very good reasons to BOTH oppose "trump" AND prefer him to finish his first term. In my case, I think "trump" is so atrociously bad that those arguments don't move me, but I understand them and respect them.

 

For example, if "trump" is forcefully removed or pressured to resign for even the most horrendous of treasonous crimes, he still won't lose his loyal base. Many in that base are very EXTREMIST and usually have guns. Some have even threatened violence and civil war if "trump" is removed for any reason. 

You identify an irony lost on the NRA crowd.  Some of the people who jealously defend their constitutional right to bare arms were threatening armed revolution against our constitutional government if the voted didn't turn out their way.  No doubt they will threaten the same if Trump is impeached.

[Jools]

I want the first term to finish HIM!!!  If the same people who gave Obama two terms had bothered to show up, we would not be in this predicament.

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, Jools said:

I want the first term to finish HIM!!!  If the same people who gave Obama two terms had bothered to show up, we would not be in this predicament.

I don't like the karma implications of your first sentence, but you are absolutely right about your second sentence. 

[heybruce]

5 minutes ago, Jools said:

I want the first term to finish HIM!!!  If the same people who gave Obama two terms had bothered to show up, we would not be in this predicament.

Agreed.  Not voting because your dream candidate didn't make it to the general election is immature and unpatriotic.  If you care about your country you will vote, even if it is a vote for the lesser of two evils.

[Opl]

8 hours ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

 

Nah, it’s always good to see the hypocrisy and irony of self proclaimed tolerant/moral liberals being nastier and more bigoted than the people they wave their fingers at. 

 

 

 

 

[Thakkar]

2 hours ago, heybruce said:

Please note that the poll doesn't ask if people support Trump, it asks if people want him to finish his first term.  There is a difference.

 

Also note that those who want Trump out are giving good reasons for wanting that.  The "majority" (in your opinion) aren't posting as much because it is difficult to defend having him in office.

I didn’t even vote, because it is impossible to give a meaningful answer with articulating a boatload of caveats whichever way one votes.

[Jools]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I don't like the karma implications of your first sentence, but you are absolutely right about your second sentence. 

Okay.....maybe this makes it clearer....I've been praying for Trump.....but he's STILL ALIVE!!!!!