webfact Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Picture shows what happened when 800cc bike collided with the back of a turning 10 wheeler Picture: Thai Rath Thai Rath published a picture of the aftermath of a collision between a Kawasaki Z 800 and a truck trailer in Nakon Sawan. The roadway was covered in bits of smashed motorcycle while by the side of the road was the corpse of 41 year old Niwat Khongdee from Phichit. He was wearing a helmet but his neck was broken. The driver of the truck Bunyang Kiawkiang, 54, had left the scene but police found him a kilometer further away. He gave himself up. He said he had seen a pick-up approaching as he was turning into a corn field. A bike overtook the pick-up and smashed into the back of his trailer. The accident happened on the Takfa - Inburi Road before midday on Sunday morning. Source: Thai Rath -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-02-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MaeJoMTB Posted February 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) Alternative story. "Driver of lorry pulled across road without indicating or looking for other traffic, then did a runner" Edited February 12, 2018 by MaeJoMTB 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted February 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2018 When a bike and a truck collides, the truck will win everytime, not saying that this is the bike fault, but riding a bike one should be switched on a 100 more that when driving a car.... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Get Real Posted February 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2018 43 minutes ago, MaeJoMTB said: Alternative story. "Driver of lorry pulled across road without indicating or looking for other traffic, then did a runner" I do think that it must be BS-day today! If the driver of the truck sees a pickup approaching, and the pickup don´t crash into the truck. Do you not see that as the MC driver that overtakes the pickup must be held responsible for that the road in front of the car he overtakes is free? One more thing! It´s never okey to overtake another car in places where there is a side road or a crossing. To sum it all up. I do think that the headline can stay like it is, without any more discussion about that fact. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Enoon Posted February 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, MaeJoMTB said: Alternative story. "Driver of lorry pulled across road without indicating or looking for other traffic, then did a runner" "He said he had seen a pick-up approaching as he was turning into a corn field. A bike overtook the pick-up and smashed into the back of his trailer." It seems quite straight forward: The pick up was approaching the turning truck, the motorcyclist failed to exercise correct judgement, decided to overtake the pick up......and hit the turning truck. It is of course inconceivable that the motorcyclist swung/popped out from behind the pick up so quickly and at such a high speed that the truck driver could not have seen him until after commencing his maneuver. Or that the motorcyclist was so far exceeding the speed limit that he didn't have a hope in hell of stopping or avoiding collision. Or that even if the truck had been continuing along the road, without turning, the motorcyclist would have hit it head on. Perhaps if he had possessed an even bigger bike the motorcyclist would have been able to "power his way out of trouble" (a popular rationalisation for large capacity motorcycle ownership)......or maybe he would have merely ended up in smaller pieces? Edited February 12, 2018 by Enoon 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cornishcarlos Posted February 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, Get Real said: To sum it all up. I do think that the headline can stay like it is, without any more discussion about that fact. Well thanks... Did you recently get "promoted" to a moderator, or just trying to police threads because you are bored ?? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Get Real Posted February 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said: Well thanks... Did you recently get "promoted" to a moderator, or just trying to police threads because you are bored ?? Not sure what you are trying to state here. I commented on someones alternative change of headline, with my own opinion. I hope you do realize, that a forum is a place to voice opinions. Out of reading your comment made up like a question to me I do not have high hopes, though. However, down to aswering your question to me. No I did not get promoted to moderator, and I was not trying to police the tread. My advice to you, is to Google the meaning of the word opinion as well as read up on why different forums exist. Have a nice day! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Enoon Posted February 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Enoon said: "He said he had seen a pick-up approaching as he was turning into a corn field. A bike overtook the pick-up and smashed into the back of his trailer." It seems quite straight forward: The pick up was approaching the turning truck, the motorcyclist failed to exercise correct judgement, decided to overtake the pick up......and hit the turning truck. It is of course inconceivable that the motorcyclist swung/popped out from behind the pick up so quickly and at such a high speed that the truck driver could not have seen him until after commencing his maneuver. Or that the motorcyclist was so far exceeding the speed limit that he didn't have a hope in hell of stopping or avoiding collision. Or that even if the truck had been continuing along the road, without turning, the motorcyclist would have hit it head on. Perhaps if he had possessed an even bigger bike the motorcyclist would have been able to "power his way out of trouble" (a popular rationalisation for large capacity motorcycle ownership)......or maybe he would have merely ended up in smaller pieces? PS Let us not forget that a popular maneuver for motorcycle heroes is to try and pass close around the rear of a vehicle (which they are approaching from the front) which is in mid-turn......and sometimes (especially if the vehicle slows or stops during the turn)..........they get it wrong. I'll go with that one. Edited February 12, 2018 by Enoon 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I thought the article was more about what happens to the bike than the rider. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 3 hours ago, MaeJoMTB said: Alternative story. "Driver of lorry pulled across road without indicating or looking for other traffic, then did a runner" Or bike rider driving too fast unable to see what is ahead dies at scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLang Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Was doing a fair rate of knots, judging by the pieces. And a single yellow line? Speed and inexperience, and a Thai driving a truck. Not a good combinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 We can all bitch and moan about the truck turning with or without a blinker, and no disrespect to the deceased, but he must have been in warp speed, because any experienced rider of a big bike knows, that when you are in warp speed, if you do hit something, you know that you don't won't to be here when the dust settles, so to speak. RIP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinca tinca Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 7 hours ago, ezzra said: When a bike and a truck collides, the truck will win everytime, not saying that this is the bike fault, but riding a bike one should be switched on a 100 more that when driving a car.... does not happen in this country 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDfella Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I am not a biker and know very little about them but isn't an 800cc m/b a pretty powerful machine? The fact that the truck was turning and therefore slow most of the KE would have been in the bike...and judging by the debris it had a lot of KE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MadMuhammad Posted February 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2018 29 minutes ago, TKDfella said: I am not a biker and know very little about them but isn't an 800cc m/b a pretty powerful machine? The fact that the truck was turning and therefore slow most of the KE would have been in the bike...and judging by the debris it had a lot of KE. Kawasaki Z800’s go like stink, a very rapid bike and very dangerous in the wrong hands. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 7 hours ago, Get Real said: I do think that it must be BS-day today! If the driver of the truck sees a pickup approaching, and the pickup don´t crash into the truck. Do you not see that as the MC driver that overtakes the pickup must be held responsible for that the road in front of the car he overtakes is free? One more thing! It´s never okey to overtake another car in places where there is a side road or a crossing. To sum it all up. I do think that the headline can stay like it is, without any more discussion about that fact. My take is that the driver saw a pickup approaching from behind, not in front. The bike then overtook the pickup without seeing that the lorry was making a turn. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaleboneman Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 50 minutes ago, TKDfella said: I am not a biker and know very little about them but isn't an 800cc m/b a pretty powerful machine? The fact that the truck was turning and therefore slow most of the KE would have been in the bike...and judging by the debris it had a lot of KE. Actually, K.E.=1/2 m v squared. I'm pretty sure regardless of speed differentials, large moving trucks always have more kinetic energy than motorcycles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Bangkok Barry said: My take is that the driver saw a pickup approaching from behind, not in front. The bike then overtook the pickup without seeing that the lorry was making a turn. Still that seems like a lack of care for your own life, right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAIBKK Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 This story hasn't anything to do with brake failures only with brain failures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damrongsak Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 5 hours ago, TKDfella said: I am not a biker and know very little about them but isn't an 800cc m/b a pretty powerful machine? ... About like a Toyota Vios car with 450 horsepower. Not quite as powerful as a Ferrari 458 Italia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post InnerCynic Posted February 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2018 Having driven many oversized and overweight oilfield rigs I can attest to the tomfoolery of the general motoring public in somehow "assuming" that everyone else, myself included, can not only stop on a dime but also have the preternatural ability to read their idiotic lizard-brained intentions. Motorcyclists, here in Thailand in particular, are especially "gifted" with the stupid gene. The more CC's between their legs seems to have a direct correlation to the diminished CC's between their ears. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDfella Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 15 hours ago, whaleboneman said: Actually, K.E.=1/2 m v squared. I'm pretty sure regardless of speed differentials, large moving trucks always have more kinetic energy than motorcycles. Obviously but the truck was going in the same direction as the bike not towards the bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H1w4yR1da Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 On 2/12/2018 at 11:22 AM, Enoon said: "He said he had seen a pick-up approaching as he was turning into a corn field. A bike overtook the pick-up and smashed into the back of his trailer." It seems quite straight forward: You actually believe anything a Thai says after an accident? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 We do not need to speculate anything on such cases. Nothing was going to happen if the bike was going at safe speed but face is important in this place. Too bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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