American claims self-defense as patron says man murdered in Pattaya was "trouble-maker"

[watcharacters]

On 2/13/2018 at 7:49 PM, cat handler said:

a 25,000 baht tip each to the staff would get whatever story you want told.

 

 

 

He must have some dedicated friends.

 

 

[cornishcarlos]

2 minutes ago, hottrader77 said:

the police said they have overwhelming cctv evidence thats why they charged him but you would not believe it even if they showed it to you 

 

Of course I would believe it, if it was caught on CCTV... Where do you get this notion that I wouldn't believe it ??

Just because I refused to jump on the "hang him high" band wagon, when no details were clear, doesn't mean I'm not happy to see conclusive evidence.

 

But again, here's a little something to think about. Police say they have overwhelming evidence, could it be vaguely possible that it's a ploy to get more money out of the American guy ? Just throwing that out there, although I know "everyone else" knows he's 100% guilty.

[dazler]

On 2/14/2018 at 10:16 PM, boomerangutang said:

I think it will be 5, and out in 2 or 3.  He should be in for maximum 15.  He sounds like a v. dangerous and unhinged guy.  I wouldn't want him walking free, anywhere.

 

I might get some heat from mentioning this, but he's got a Latino-sounding name (Jose Manuel Polanco) and he's purportedly from Miami. Some old-timers might remember the Mariel Boatlift which was in the news in 1980.  Cubans in Miami were clamoring for more Cubans be allowed to come to the US.  So Castro said, 'si senores' and allowed thousands of Cuban prisoners to get shipped to the US.  

 

Also, one of my best buddies was residing in Miami when the Mariel thing happened.  He said his apartment block filled with the most nefarious people he'd ever seen.  He left Miami right away, and never looked back.

 

The murderer in this thread could be an off-shoot of that.  I'm not a fan of blaming sons for the sins of their fathers, but......

 

Thai girls would surely be screaming - if they saw a farang doing something abusive to one of their sisters.  There are usually one or more Thai guys working in such places.  They're v. observant, and are not going to tolerate abuse.  

Wrong, he is already out. Many people saw him out and about in Jomtien with his girlfriend yesterday.

in my opinion he wont spend another minute in custody.

[hottrader77]

4 hours ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

Of course I would believe it, if it was caught on CCTV... Where do you get this notion that I wouldn't believe it ??

Just because I refused to jump on the "hang him high" band wagon, when no details were clear, doesn't mean I'm not happy to see conclusive evidence.

 

But again, here's a little something to think about. Police say they have overwhelming evidence, could it be vaguely possible that it's a ploy to get more money out of the American guy ? Just throwing that out there, although I know "everyone else" knows he's 100% guilty.

<deleted>  when cctv shows this american stamping on the australians head 15 times you seriouslty think its a ploy to get more money out of american ?????  you cant puti t where it aint !  some people make me wonder .....

[cornishcarlos]

1 hour ago, hottrader77 said:

<deleted>  when cctv shows this american stamping on the australians head 15 times you seriouslty think its a ploy to get more money out of american ?????  you cant puti t where it aint !  some people make me wonder .....

 

If you've seen the footage then I apologise for reserving judgement, if not, then you shouldn't worry about a different opinion...

[dazler]

On 2/14/2018 at 10:42 PM, AloisAmrein said:

Absolutely right. I share your opinion. The yank can should be prepared for 30 years at Bangkok Hilton, also known as Bangkwank alias Big Tiger. 

 

 

No, he is out already. And never went to Bangkok.

[marinediscoking]

How do you know he hasn't applied for bail? Most get out on bail quickly here if one can come up with it.

What amazes me from my time here is how seldom bail is denied even when the evidence is overwhelming. 

[jenny2017]

2 minutes ago, marinediscoking said:

How do you know he hasn't applied for bail? Most get out on bail quickly here if one can come up with it.

What amazes me from my time here is how seldom bail is denied even when the evidence is overwhelming. 

Bail, or Bakschisch ? 

[Fish Head Soup]

14 minutes ago, marinediscoking said:

How do you know he hasn't applied for bail?

He told me.

[marinediscoking]

Just now, Fish Head Soup said:

He told me.

So you know the accused personally?

[Fish Head Soup]

9 minutes ago, marinediscoking said:

So you know the accused personally?

No.

[marinediscoking]

3 minutes ago, Fish Head Soup said:

No.

Are you just trolling this thread?

[Fish Head Soup]

30 minutes ago, marinediscoking said:

Are you just trolling this thread?

No.

 

And that's the third question I have answered for you.

[sambum]

1 hour ago, Fish Head Soup said:

No.

 

And that's the third question I have answered for you.

He told you that he hadn't applied for bail yet you don't know him? Sounds fishy - it at least warrants some kind of explanation rather than a one or two word answer!

[Fish Head Soup]

12 minutes ago, sambum said:

He told you that he hadn't applied for bail yet you don't know him? Sounds fishy - it at least warrants some kind of explanation rather than a one or two word answer!

I appreciate that. However I'm not at liberty to divulge any other information other than to say that he has been treated properly by the authorities and will remain in custody until at least the preliminary court appearance scheduled for next week.

[JAZZDOG]

16 hours ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

Of course I would believe it, if it was caught on CCTV... Where do you get this notion that I wouldn't believe it ??

Just because I refused to jump on the "hang him high" band wagon, when no details were clear, doesn't mean I'm not happy to see conclusive evidence.

 

But again, here's a little something to think about. Police say they have overwhelming evidence, could it be vaguely possible that it's a ploy to get more money out of the American guy ? Just throwing that out there, although I know "everyone else" knows he's 100% guilty.

He doesn't strike me as a guy with a lot of money or common sense. Many of those types in Florida

[JAZZDOG]

14 hours ago, dazler said:

Wrong, he is already out. Many people saw him out and about in Jomtien with his girlfriend yesterday.

in my opinion he wont spend another minute in custody.

Pic or BS

[Rimmer]

A wild speculative post has been removed

[Pattaya46]

10 minutes ago, Rimmer said:

A wild speculative post has been removed

LOL 

I didn't see the post you removed,

but seems to me that half the posts about this (sad) story are speculative ones !

• Nobody really knows what happened
• The CCTV videos are kept secret by the Police
• All said "witnesses" are "anonymous"
• ...

 

[dazler]

8 hours ago, JAZZDOG said:

Pic or BS

A picture of Jose walking around Jomtien yesterday is provided on the newer thread.

[dazler]

11 hours ago, Fish Head Soup said:

I appreciate that. However I'm not at liberty to divulge any other information other than to say that he has been treated properly by the authorities and will remain in custody until at least the preliminary court appearance scheduled for next week.

So what day is the court case?

[Rimmer]

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EDIT

Also now a troll/baiting post and reply

[Nasrullah]

5 hours ago, gordon g said:

Jose Polanco has been given a two year jail sentence by the Pattaya court. FULLY suspended.

 

Obviously Ben's friends are disappointed with the verdict, especially considering he was previously convicted of murder in the US where he was sentenced to 12 years prison for murder, before having his sentence reduced to only 2 years.  That murder was over a dispute over 20USD. Jose spent 3 nights locked up for killing Ben. There were no prosecution witnesses at court.

 

Jose is required to stay in Thailand until the sentence expires, so has been given a visa for that period.

 

We heard that legal "costs" totalled 600,000 baht, of which none went to Ben's family as often happens in Thailand.

 

If the Darkside Dog could use his court\jail contacts to confirm this result to the members it would be very much appreciated. There are lot of mistruths and speculation in these threads that are not helpful.

 

Jose is residing in Pattaya and was seen in Soi 6 again last week. Despite not having a job, he does not appear to be struggling financially. He may have an export business that provides muscle growth products.

thanks for the update Gordon........amazing Thailand if true......The strange thing & other parts of the story

should be more strange,is that he must remain in Thailand for 2 years....What if you have no money or

income?...How does that work?

[pegman]

18 hours ago, Nasrullah said:

thanks for the update Gordon........amazing Thailand if true......The strange thing & other parts of the story

should be more strange,is that he must remain in Thailand for 2 years....What if you have no money or

income?...How does that work?

Appearently he had enough cash to get out of this.

[Nasrullah]

1 hour ago, gordon g said:

I think they work that out first.

If he didn't have money he would be locked up. It isn't free getting a sentence like this you know.

Only the poor get locked up.

 

1 hour ago, gordon g said:

I think they work that out first.

If he didn't have money he would be locked up. It isn't free getting a sentence like this you know.

Only the poor get locked up.

 

1 hour ago, pegman said:

Appearently he had enough cash to get out of this.

Yes i am well aware that buying one's freedom can be done.....

 

But......this was a high-profile case with a previously convicted murderer killing an Australian....

The Aus media were all over this story for days....

 

What does the Australian Govt & the family think of the sentence?

 

Has it been confirmed yet? 

[Rimmer]

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