American who killed Australian tourist in Pattaya bar fight has murdered before

[suzannegoh]

1 minute ago, Headgame said:

Really? Self defense from what exactly?

That will be a very challenging defense in these circumstances, if we've got the whole story at this point.

It may just be because self-defence is the only possible legal defence in a bar fight.  He can't say that he killed the guy because he was an <deleted>.

[Suradit69]

3 hours ago, CockneyGit said:

And yet this man can get a visa to enter Thailand no problem. Well done Immigration, keep up the good work..!!

 

Immigrations doesn't issue visas.

 

Embassies and consulates, assuming he entered on a visa, wouldn't have access to criminal records. I seriously doubt that border and airport immigrations have access to records of everyone with a criminal record world wide. He apparently served (the ridiculously short) sentence imposed on him by a farang court for his first offense and therefore would not be wanted by police.

 

In any case, the two miscreants are foreigners. Once again someone tries to shift the blame for anything that happens in or out of Thailand onto Thais and Thailand.

 

Farang authorities seem to let plenty of charged and convicted criminals sail through immigrations when fleeing their countries and, quite often, have to rely on Thai police to apprehend and repatriate them.

 

 

 

Edited February 13, 2018 by Suradit69

[rchapstick]

And the Darwin Award goes to.....

Oh, it's a tie!!!

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[malcoml]

If the Aussie guy was that bad management would not have made him welcome there.

 

Seen plenty of big guys playing around with small girls in a bar lifting them and stuff. Again these girls can stick up for themselves and they tend to avoid problem customers.

 

This American can clearly not handle his drink...

[Denim]

Oh well....scratch two scumbags.

 

Let's get back to Graham Briar and see if there is more muck raking to be done.

[diehard60]

yea pataya is great because you let people in this country that are like that

[yogi100]

3 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

He only got 2 years for murder before?!  I bet the family of the murdered guy did not feel like they got justice.  

 

That's two he's killed. If he'd have been executed the first time his second victim would still be alive.

[Suradit69]

2 hours ago, Darcula said:

Clearly a quality tourist.

 

Amazing Thailand - always open to the new shadys.

Amazing Farangland - always producing an endless supply of them.

[Donotdisturb]

3 hours ago, ezzra said:

One man is a convicted murder, the deceased is a known trouble maker and a bully, what a fine

specimen of human being Pattaya is attracting, almost safe enough to have our monthy

church meetings there...

Jup. Ever observed the regular pattaya monger? Rarely u will see a nobel price winner or advanced human being. Mostly you will encounter alcoholics, misogynists, perverts, low of the low, ugly, machos, loud, crying for attention (from hookers, imagine!!)...  

[darrendsd]

3 hours ago, CockneyGit said:

And yet this man can get a visa to enter Thailand no problem. Well done Immigration, keep up the good work..!!

 

I was waiting for this sort of comment, you obviously have no idea how the system works

[theguyfromanotherforum]

48 minutes ago, UncleE said:

In fact picking up the waitress by the head until her feet were off the ground is a nasty thing to do.   So I'd say the American guy was just neutralizing an idiot, helping the girl out.   And .......

 

..... it's time to take your meds

[Cabradelmar]

Dirt bag. Lock him up long time.

 

[Enoon]

1 hour ago, White Christmas13 said:

Funny yesterday every body was blaming the Aussie guy without knowing the facts

 

I blame them.

 

 

[Colabamumbai]

Bring back the death penalty in Thailand, it might deter some.

[SOUTHERNSTAR]

Good guys in bad guys ..... ?????

[Donotdisturb]

The rip was an &sshole ok but making his head into soup is a little overkill imo.... ???

[dotpoom]

3 hours ago, colinneil said:

Polanco said it was self defence, yet he has killed before.

Sounds like a total nutter who should be locked up for life.

How can it be "self defence" if the man he attacked was fighting with a waitress....not with him?

[globalspark]

Now you know  why the military  government  is   trying to change the image of  Thailand.Pattaya has become the wild west of the world   with all  races   all  different ideas  and reasons for been there.I must admit I have never experienced   any problems there but   stick to my mates  from our  jogging club.The main problem is that  booze is  now also fuelled  by  drugs such as ice  which sets people of their  brains.  Small incidents  become  big incidents and in this case death.  Sounds like both  were of their trees.

[chrisinth]

7 minutes ago, dotpoom said:

How can it be "self defence" if the man he attacked was fighting with a waitress....not with him?

this was my point earlier, nobody seems to know, or the truth is lost in so many interpretations of the event. He could have confronted the Aussie who leaves the girl alone and punches the American (hence the self defense plea).

 

Maybe, perhaps, did he?, didn't he?..................................

[fimo]

Such criminals can easily enter the kingdom ? This is his second murder ?

I'm married with a thai girl and I'm living here for more than 15 years, never had a problem with police/justice and still have to do tons of papers for my yearly visa extension ? That's not logical / fair.

Edited February 13, 2018 by fimo

[davidst01]

1 hour ago, twizzian said:

So the charge has already been downgraded to Manslaughter.

Stamping repeatedly on a persons head is surely an act of wanting to kill!

Pattaya has now become Thug capital of Thailand.

it hasnt gone to court yet. Its only press talk

[Pattaya46]

1 hour ago, twizzian said:

So the charge has already been downgraded to Manslaughter. //

Downgraded ?

Where did you see that it was previously an other charge than that  ? 

[soalbundy]

23 minutes ago, dotpoom said:

How can it be "self defence" if the man he attacked was fighting with a waitress....not with him?

Obviously a cavalier from the old school. He did ruin it though shouting "I learned that one in St.Quentin" as he threw the man over the bar.

[miamiman123]

How did he get into Thailand ??

[Alphy]

Leopards don't change their spots!!

[natway09]

Maximum security prison in Thailand for  20 years....... That might make him think !!!!!

Obviously nothing else will

[Jim walker]

24 months for his last murder he will be hoping for the same again think a fruit loop like him needs locking up for good or preferably put down like a sick animal 

[kcpattaya]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

acted in self defence

What happened to your cuts and bruises Polanco?
You wiped those off?!!

[watcharacters]

35 minutes ago, Colabamumbai said:

Bring back the death penalty in Thailand, it might deter some.

 

 

Gosh, it's  always sad to read a post such as yours  when it  appeals to a certain element of the uninformed members  of TVF.   

 

Please  try to show the forum members  any links to evidence of your claim that the death penalty deters crime.

 

Please try to do that..   OK?

 

 

[fimo]

1 minute ago, Jim walker said:

24 months for his last murder he will be hoping for the same again think a fruit loop like him needs locking up for good or preferably put down like a sick animal 

In US the first sentence was 12 years, for his 1st murder then reduced to 9 years (in appeal) but he stayed only 5 years in jail.