American who killed Australian tourist in Pattaya bar fight has murdered before

[wavemanwww]

6 hours ago, colinneil said:

Polanco said it was self defence, yet he has killed before.

Sounds like a total nutter who should be locked up for life.

thank god i was not in same bar with this nutter.long stretch in THAI

gaol will take away much anger from his personnel!.

[NoshowJones]

1 hour ago, yogi100 said:

 

Even a comparatively wealthy nation like the UK has not got round to doing that where the vast majority of its visitors and immigrants are concerned and we admit more scoundrels, rogues, ne'er do wells and scroungers into Britain than Thailand could ever even dream of doing.

How very true.

[SunsetT]

4 hours ago, UncleE said:

In fact picking up the waitress by the head until her feet were off the ground is a nasty thing to do.   So I'd say the American guy was just neutralizing an idiot, helping the girl out.   And .......

.....The red mist came down!

[speckio]

46 minutes ago, watcharacters said:

 

 

 

Excuse me?

 

Do you think it may be more accurate to use the plural as in "persons"?     There were two undesirable individuals involved in this insane altercation.

 

And they both hailed from countries that have great relations.

 

 

 

think you kind of missed my point chief,  but whatever sure

 

 

Not sure how what you said really relates to or corrects the fact that I am trying to point out "the extremely negative view some people have of Thailand"  In any case  "Some People are trying to shift the blame of what happened to thai government for allowing these two people into the country, rather than blaming the actual 2 people involved in the incident" is that better? (thai people at fault for what happened not the farang that were actually involved)

 

[marquis22]

6 hours ago, CockneyGit said:

And yet this man can get a visa to enter Thailand no problem. Well done Immigration, keep up the good work..!!

 

Agree .... I was refused a renewal SETV because the bank book showing I had over 20000 baht was not up to date.

They really do seem to pick on the wrong types.......!!!!

[marquis22]

12 minutes ago, wavemanwww said:

thank god i was not in same bar with this nutter.long stretch in THAI

gaol will take away much anger from his personnel!.

I'm glad I do not go to Pattaya or bars!!

[wgdanson]

3 hours ago, Donotdisturb said:

Jup. Ever observed the regular pattaya monger? Rarely u will see a nobel price winner or advanced human being. Mostly you will encounter alcoholics, misogynists, perverts, low of the low, ugly, machos, loud, crying for attention (from hookers, imagine!!)...  

It goes to show which places you frequent. Six years in Pattaya and NEVER saw a fight.

[JRUSA]

1 hour ago, Henrik Andersen said:

Very intelligent answer 

To a very unintelligent post..

[speckio]

7 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

When I crossed the Canadian border in to America, I was asked if I had any convictions for assault, like I was going to admit it.

When I crossed the Mexican border in to America, I wasn't even asked for my passport, nor was my hired car searched. No wonder there are so many Mexican illegals in America.

First question is are you white? second question what country is your passport from?

 

If you are a US citizen trying to get home I am curious as to why would you be asked if you had any convictions for assault.

 

Regarding your Mexico experience that's just mind-boggling unless they gave you a pass because of being white and a US license plate on the car?

 

 

[SunsetT]

4 hours ago, Emster23 said:

So how is that "good guys in, bad guys out" program working for you, immigration?

....And just awhile ago some poor guy was denied entry at Swampy when he honestly declared US jailtime for a minor felony 25 yrs ago:

 

[SupermarineS6B]

I've been to Pattaya once in nearly thirty years, what does that tell you ?  Can't stand the place or the low life it attracts........ Thais and westerners......

[Sig]

6 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

He only got 2 years for murder before?!  I bet the family of the murdered guy did not feel like they got justice.  

He got 2 years for manslaughter.

[PAIBKK]

7 hours ago, ezzra said:

One man is a convicted murder, the deceased is a known trouble maker and a bully, what a fine

specimen of human being Pattaya is attracting, almost safe enough to have our monthy

church meetings there...

That's what the Thai mean with QUALITY TOURISTS...

[speckio]

54 minutes ago, WHYWHY said:

So he's done this before goes to jail and let out to kill again

He says he took exception to what was happening.

The owners of this Club should have stepped in.

People need to learn they can't take the into there own hands.

No one deserves to die this way 

yeah, good luck with that... It's easy for anyone to say "Ohh I would have done this" or "someone should have stopped it"

 

but human nature has proven that's not the case. soo many social experiments where people would rather just look the other way or not get involved. Very few people will do the right thing by putting themselves in danger.

 

I used to think like you until I encountered a group people assaulting 1 man...  I chose to keep walking instead of trying to intervene by rationalizing it'ts none of my business but the plain and simple truth is... I was afraid the group of men would hurt me also if tried to stop it.

 

 

 

 

[wavemanwww]

21 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

It goes to show which places you frequent. Six years in Pattaya and NEVER saw a fight.

I was there for thee months of and on and saw a big fight every second week! Guess you were at home then after 9pm

[duanebigsby]

3 hours ago, miamiman123 said:

How did he get into Thailand ??

He flew into the airport. They glance at you and glance at your passport and give you a 30 day exempt.

Can you imagine immigration contacting Interpol. FBI, and doing a criminal background check while you were entering Thailand?

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Here's some official history on Polanco's prior criminal case:

 

https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1138505/state-v-polanco/

 

Quote

 

Defendant was an 18-year-old high school student at the time relevant here. Several days after the murder, a student at defendant's high school told a teacher that defendant had been involved in the killing of Cooper. The student had heard this information from a friend of defendant's girlfriend. The school reported this information to the North Miami Police Department by telephone.
 

Two North Miami plain-clothes detectives went to the school and asked to speak to the defendant. Defendant was brought from *1124 class to a conference room.^[1] The detectives ascertained that defendant had gone to work at a grocery store on the evening of the murder, after which he met a man he identified as Michael and was paid $20 to look at a problem with Michael's car. Defendant identified a photograph of the victim as being Michael.
 

Upon gathering this information, the detectives concluded that defendant was the last, or one of the last, persons to see the victim alive. One of the detectives testified that he asked the defendant to accompany them to the police station a half block away from the school, for further interview. The gist of the detective's testimony was that this was done on a voluntary basis and that the defendant was not in custody. The defendant's testimony was that the detectives told him they were taking him to the police station and that he was not given a choice in the matter. The defendant and detectives then proceeded to the police station.^[2]

No Miranda warnings^[3] were given at the school or upon arrival at the police station.

At the police station the detectives questioned the defendant further. They obtained a consent to search defendant's car. After questioning defendant for an hour and ten minutes, defendant confessed to the murder. At that point he was arrested and given Miranda warnings. He then gave another statement confessing to the murder. He also told the detectives where he disposed of the murder weapon, which was not recovered, and where he disposed of his own bloody clothing, which was recovered.^[4]

 

 

[SOTIRIOS]

..nowhere does it say there was a fight between the two 'men'...

 

...this 'guy' saw someone that they described as 'drunk' (?) being abusive towards a waitress...

 

...management did nothing....who knows what transpired beforehand....this guy...a regular...was already labelled...

 

...the 'hero' jumps in and clocks the hapless guy then keeps hitting and stomping him even when he is unconscious...(?)

 

...at what point did he have to defend himself from an apparently out of shape and possibly drunk patron at the bar..(?)

 

[tryasimight]

4 hours ago, Donotdisturb said:

Jup. Ever observed the regular pattaya monger? Rarely u will see a nobel price winner or advanced human being. Mostly you will encounter alcoholics, misogynists, perverts, low of the low, ugly, machos, loud, crying for attention (from hookers, imagine!!)...  

So you spend a fair bit of time with these people? 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

And a bit more:

 

https://www.rapsheets.org/florida/doc-prisoner/POLANCO_JOSE/M04985

 

So based on the dates here, he would have been age 18, an adult for U.S. judicial purposes, at the time of the crime.

 

[tryasimight]

3 hours ago, fimo said:

Such criminals can easily enter the kingdom ? This is his second murder ?

I'm married with a thai girl and I'm living here for more than 15 years, never had a problem with police/justice and still have to do tons of papers for my yearly visa extension ? That's not logical / fair.

Well go and kill someone and you won't have to through the yearly hassles. 

[dg1980]

In Angeles City (similar to pattaya for those who don’t know),  every single bar has its own set of security guards...

 

I see that Many gogo bars on walking street also have security. 

 

Perhaps time for soi 6 to follow suit?

[Monkeyrobot]

Where is the CTV footage???? All bars have CTV.

[The Deerhunter]

7 hours ago, jvs said:

And yet a country that knows of his criminal past lets him have a passport and travel!!!!!Well done very advanced western country keep up the good work.They seem to let anybody out but try to get in!!!

It's called  "Bad guys out, good guys in."  Does it sound familiar?    Good idea in principal.

[dunroaming]

So his friends who were supposedly egging him on and filming the "fight" seem to have disappeared completely.  Surely if the Americans story was plausible his buddies would be there to back him up?  Then again that would take some b*lls so very unlikely.

[NoshowJones]

1 hour ago, speckio said:

First question is are you white? second question what country is your passport from?

 

If you are a US citizen trying to get home I am curious as to why would you be asked if you had any convictions for assault.

 

Regarding your Mexico experience that's just mind-boggling unless they gave you a pass because of being white and a US license plate on the car?

 

 

Yes, white, and the UK, and a US license plate on the car.

[captspectre]

self defense is kicking someone in the nuts, hiting them with a chair, it is NOT kicking someone in the head numerous times after he is down. And it is not manslaughter, it is murder! lock this fool up for at at least ten years on a thai slammer, he will get the message.

[ujayujay]

Hang him!

[FitnessHealthTravel]

He'll get more than 2 years this time.

[Thomasbangkok]

This is the same guy who was in Pattaya in October this past year close to Halloween.  He came to the Ruby Club and was throwing money around like he was loaded and drank more alcohol then most men I ever knew.  That same night he had the manager go and buy him a fifth of Peron Tequila while he was drinking.  Polanco is very physically strong and was lifting the girls off the ground that night like they were paper weights while flirting with them.  Interestingly, another guy came out of the restroom that night and hit Polanco in the face I heard.  Polanco did nothing to respond then.  Polanco I heard said something to this other guy that caused this guy to hit Polanco in the face that night in October.  I was in the front of the bar at the time of that incident and Polanco was in the back of the bar near the toilette as they were trying to get him to a room to sleep off his drunken state.  I did not see the incident then in October but according to the Manager on duty that night who spoke to me right after it happened Polanco did not fight back (maybe Polanco was too drunk) and the management quickly kicked out the other guy out that hit him right away.  

 

Polanco was very drunk that night back in October and slept in a room above the bar in think with three or four girls. I spoke to Polanco earlier that night near where the cashier works in the front for a 2 or 3 hours.  We are all were concerned that night Polanco was too drunk and his actions were over board.  However, never saw violence from him that night in October.  I did not realize it was the same guy in the news till the other day when I looked closely at his face on the internet and recognized him.  I remember he was saying something about a woman he had divorced or was divorcing in the USA, I think it was in Miami.  He was obviously effected by the separation or divorce and had been hurt emotionally.  He also stated he had leased a condo not far away.  Also told me of some other Thai girl who use to work I think at Hooters he had sponsored and given lots attention to and this girl had hurt him as well.  Stuff happens, I told him.  In Thailand told him to relax and calm down and just enjoy people.  Sabai, Sabai . It appeared to me then that Polanco had not lived in Thailand before and needed to understand Thailand culture better.  At that time in October, I did not get the impression Polanco was living fulltime in Pattaya but traveling back and forth for extended stays.  That night in October Polanco just was acting very strong minded and was drunk.  Not sure what happened on this incident but I am sure there are others who can say much more.