Shinawatra extradition efforts hurt by 'false perceptions': PM Prayut

[webfact]

Extradition efforts hurt by 'false perceptions': PM

By WASAMON AUDJARINT 
THE NATION

 

PRIME MINISTER General Prayut Chan-o-cha

 

PRIME MINISTER General Prayut Chan-o-cha admitted yesterday that misunderstandings overseas could be a factor in the Thai government’s unsuccessful requests to have the two Shinawatra ex-premiers extradited to Thailand from their self-imposed exiles.

 

“They [foreign countries] may view this as being political, which is a problem. People have assumed that these kinds of things are all political while, in fact, they are violations of laws,” Prayut said at his weekly press briefing.

 

His remarks were a clear reference to Thaksin Shinawatra and his sister Yingluck, who have both received prison sentences in Thailand and lived overseas to avoid serving their time behind bars.

 

Thaksin, who has faced several completed and ongoing cases, fled the Kingdom in 2008 while his sister vanished last August, before she was convicted in a case stemming from her government’s rice-pledging scheme.

 

Thaksin has since made occasional online comments while Yingluck has kept quiet, with only a few photos of her in London emerging last month.

 

The first photo of the two together since Yingluck fled emerged on Saturday, showing them out shopping in Beijing.

 

The junta government has revoked their passports – Thaksin’s in 2015 and Yingluck’s last year – so they have been using undisclosed travel documents. 

 

Prayut also spoke to diplomats at Government House on Monday, when he asked for foreign countries’ cooperation when dealing with “Thai wrongdoers living overseas”.

 

On the same day he also said to not discuss the matter with British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson, who met with him in Bangkok.

 

Yesterday, he said the matter was already in the hands of agencies responsible for coordinating such matters between countries. 

 

 “However, it will ultimately depend on each country’s decision. Foreign countries cooperated by informing us of where they were, but when we asked them about extradition, they were silent,” Prayut said, while not specifically naming the countries he was referring to.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30338769

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-02-14

[Odysseus123]

How utterly depressing.

 

By which I mean that NONE of them has the innate talent to organize a booze up in a brewery....

[Samui Bodoh]

9 minutes ago, webfact said:

“They [foreign countries] may view this as being political, which is a problem. People have assumed that these kinds of things are all political while, in fact, they are violations of laws,” Prayut said at his weekly press briefing.

No, it was political theater and nothing more.

 

You had your nice little show trial, but forgot that the world was watching.

 

All I can say now is enjoy all the photos that will be coming from Yingluck and Thaksin for next loooooong while.

 

Have a good vaca, Ying-baby!

 

Edited February 13, 2018 by Samui Bodoh
Lack of coffee

[Chang_paarp]

So in spite of holding a number of events for diplomats foreign governments do not understand Thai position. 

 

Funny all the pronouncements after said events were along the line that the diplomats "understand". Maybe they understand, but not the message the Junta was pushing.

[JOC]

28 minutes ago, webfact said:

Prayut also spoke to diplomats at Government House on Monday, when he asked for foreign countries’ cooperation when dealing with “Thai wrongdoers living overseas”.

 

What about "Thai wrongdoers living in Thailand" aka coup generals...?

[tracker1]

If they were to return I think there would only be jubilation which would cause untold problems for the junta ! so really who thinks they are determined for their return Not me

[LomSak27]

"misunderstandings"

 

Oh no. Those misunderstandings rear their ugly head again. How unfortunate.

[Thailand]

When you are in a hole the best course of action is to stop digging!

 

But you have to have the sense to know you are in a hole in the first place.

[rkidlad]

The sheer hypocrisy. 

 

Someone says or does something against him that ‘he’ doesn’t like and it’s ‘political’. He does the same to someone else and it’s suddently ‘the law’. 

 

 

[baboon]

And just how many actual extradition requests have you issued so far, Mr Junta chief? 

 

Pulling out all the stops to get it done and at the same time making excuses in advance as to why it will never actually happen. The junta to a T...

[steven100]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

His remarks were a clear reference to Thaksin Shinawatra and his sister Yingluck, who have both received prison sentences in Thailand and lived overseas to avoid serving their time behind bars.

 

Thaksin, who has faced several completed and ongoing cases, fled the Kingdom in 2008 while his sister vanished last August, before she was convicted in a case stemming from her government’s rice-pledging scheme.

Well said Khun Prayut Chan O Cha.  Just keep grinding away and hopefully the thai people will get the justice they so rightly deserve and are waiting for.

[grumbleweed]

The only false perception is the one he has of himself. As well as being too dumb to realize he is a mere puppet of the elite, everyone else perceives him as a silly little man with guns

[sammieuk1]

Credibility where credibility is due and its not here.

[colinneil]

Hopefully the Thai people will get the justice they rightfully deserve.

Hopefully get a government with decent honest leaders, who can honestly declare their assets, no t claiming that they are assets of dead people.

[mikebell]

2 hours ago, JOC said:

What about "Thai wrongdoers living in Thailand" aka coup generals...?

And:

police chiefs;

police;

captains of Industry;

local authority charity workers.

[ianf]

2 hours ago, JOC said:

What about "Thai wrongdoers living in Thailand" aka coup generals...?

The coup came to stop the Shins raping and pillaging the country for their own greedy ends. The delay in the election is because  the reds have continued to organise on behalf of the Shins and the military cannot stop their disruptive influence. Thailand is on the USA radar who are funding and winding up the opposition to suit their own ends. The call for a "return to democracy" is utter nonsense and a complete lie. There has never been democracy here. Democracy relies on the rule of law. Ever seen that here? Off course not. Many Thais support the military, in spite of people who think otherwise. Most folk want a country in which they can live safely and prosper - that won't happen under the Shins.

[Dave67]

 "......Prayut Chan-o-cha admitted yesterday that misunderstandings overseas could be a factor in the Thai government’s unsuccessful requests.........."

 

I've never heard a military coup called a misunderstanding before

[newatthis]

39 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Well said Khun Prayut Chan O Cha.  Just keep grinding away and hopefully the thai people will get the justice they so rightly deserve and are waiting for.

 

  Foreign countries cooperated by informing us of where they were, but when we asked them about extradition, they were silent,” Prayut said, "

 

Yep, eventually the message will sink in.

[JAG]

42 minutes ago, ianf said:

Democracy relies on the rule of law. Ever seen that here? Off course not

You have hit the nail bang on the head there! The perception of the Thai rule of law with a military, which has staged two successive coups to forstall election results, and which has let us say a certain reputation for issues involving competence and corruption, may almost certainly be colouring international reaction to their attempts to extradite their democratically elected predecessors for "convictions" involving allegations of corruption and incompetence!

Edited February 14, 2018 by JAG

[Thailand]

1 hour ago, ianf said:

The coup came to stop the Shins raping and pillaging the country for their own greedy ends. The delay in the election is because  the reds have continued to organise on behalf of the Shins and the military cannot stop their disruptive influence. Thailand is on the USA radar who are funding and winding up the opposition to suit their own ends. The call for a "return to democracy" is utter nonsense and a complete lie. There has never been democracy here. Democracy relies on the rule of law. Ever seen that here? Off course not. Many Thais support the military, in spite of people who think otherwise. Most folk want a country in which they can live safely and prosper - that won't happen under the Shins.

Managed to put a load of rubbish in a relatively short couple of sentences.

[Cadbury]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

People have assumed that these kinds of things are all political while, in fact, they are violations of laws,”

The same sort of laws he has given himself and his military mates protection from with the use of Article 44. 

That same immunity which will be reversed retrospectively when someone else democratically takes control. 

 

[Cadbury]

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

Well said Khun Prayut Chan O Cha.  Just keep grinding away and hopefully the thai people will get the justice they so rightly deserve and are waiting for.

Steven what have you done to the photo of poor Kun Prayut. You have edited it in some way where his head now is about the size and shape of a watermelon and he now looks like a Thai version of Dr Spock. 

He will be very disappointed in you.

Edited February 14, 2018 by Cadbury

[wakeupplease]

2 hours ago, LomSak27 said:

"misunderstandings"

 

Oh no. Those misunderstandings rear their ugly head again. How unfortunate.

The world has learn't from their mistakes this lot are still in Napier's

Edited February 14, 2018 by wakeupplease

[klauskunkel]

OK, I understand your point of view: you think that countries harboring Thai criminals are viewing these cases as political. Alright, let's drag the Red Bull calf into the spotlight again: Here is a Thai criminal whose crime and situation is definitely not political, yet he has been assisted by Thai official on every turn until fleeing the country. Can you then highlight any efforts past and continuing made by your government to get this parasite back to Thailand to stand trial?

[baboon]

31 minutes ago, Cadbury said:

The same sort of laws he has given himself and his military mates protection from with the use of Article 44. 

That same immunity which will be reversed retrospectively when someone else democratically takes control. 

 

Won't happen. Any future attempt to annul this junta's amnesty and the tanks will roll in before you can say 'reconciliation'.

Edited February 14, 2018 by baboon

[DuiDui48]

3 hours ago, LomSak27 said:

"misunderstandings"

 

Oh no. Those misunderstandings rear their ugly head again. How unfortunate.

Misunderstandings are like brake faliures,same same but diffrent..Have a great day everyone.

[mrmicbkktxl]

1 hour ago, ianf said:

The coup came to stop the Shins raping and pillaging the country for their own greedy ends. The delay in the election is because  the reds have continued to organise on behalf of the Shins and the military cannot stop their disruptive influence. Thailand is on the USA radar who are funding and winding up the opposition to suit their own ends. The call for a "return to democracy" is utter nonsense and a complete lie. There has never been democracy here. Democracy relies on the rule of law. Ever seen that here? Off course not. Many Thais support the military, in spite of people who think otherwise. Most folk want a country in which they can live safely and prosper - that won't happen under the Shins.

Yeah right,it's always the government what is wrong,it's never the good guys from Army,can you remind me how many governments did they kicked out?I stopped counting after 10

[wavemanwww]

4 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:

How utterly depressing.

 

By which I mean that NONE of them has the innate talent to organize a booze up in a brewery....

Or a chook raffle in a pub

[mrmicbkktxl]

Says a guy who is responsible for kicking out elected governments.

[wavemanwww]

He said, "he did not discuss the matter with British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson, who met with him in Bangkok".

 

Does Prayut think falangs and Thais are as dumb as him? "Talk the talk but he doesn't Walk the walk ". So stop talking Prayut and  shut up is my advice to him.