Dating Despair: Why dating in Bangkok is hard for Thai women

[Berkshire]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Obviously if we talk to Thai women who like to talk with foreigners there is a high chance that they tell us they don't like Thai men because they are lazy, etc. - because that is exactly what we like to hear.

Absolutely true.  It's the old "I no like Thai man, only like farang" classic, which is what they teach in Bargirl 101.  One would have to be pretty naive to fall for that line.

[BobbyL]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I wonder how many Thai men are really like this. Obviously if we talk to Thai women who like to talk with foreigners there is a high chance that they tell us they don't like Thai men because they are lazy, etc. - because that is exactly what we like to hear. And probably that is their personal experience.

 

But there are also many Thai women out there who don't talk much or not at all with foreigners. I guess some or even many of them have a Thai partner. And they don't tell if they are happy with him.

You're right. There are loads of normal hard working Thai men who aren't lazy drunks that need looking after. I always think the women who have grown up more westernised in their interests, with a good command of English etc will be more likely to date a wider variety of people, and not just stick to their own kind.  

 

One thing that I have been told by Thai women before, some of whom only really date Thai men, is that they can be very untrustworthy. Not to say the foreigners are angels, but the culture here definitely still has a common practice of giks or mia nois.  

[thaibeachlovers]

8 hours ago, Happyman58 said:

oh well Beachy Beauty is only skin deep. I am sure you have many other qualities women look for? Big smile is a winner most times. Have you one of them?

Indeed I do.

[thaibeachlovers]

21 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I think many of them want just a normal husband.

No such beast exists.

 

I'm always puzzled by the term "dating". Is it just taking a woman out somewhere and a hug/ kiss on the cheek goodnight, or is it taking a woman out somewhere and a happy ending but sleeping in different houses?

 

I have checked with Wikipedia, but it does not clarify, merely saying it "varies in different countries" and "couples may or may not be having sexual relations".

 

I'm interested to hear what people in the real world think it is.

[OneMoreFarang]

5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

No such beast exists.

 

I'm always puzzled by the term "dating". Is it just taking a woman out somewhere and a hug/ kiss on the cheek goodnight, or is it taking a woman out somewhere and a happy ending but sleeping in different houses?

 

I have checked with Wikipedia, but it does not clarify, merely saying it "varies in different countries" and "couples may or may not be having sexual relations".

 

I'm interested to hear what people in the real world think it is.

I think it's pretty obvious: It's about a possible couple going out together. They might kiss, they might have sex, or they might not because one or both of them find out that they and not compatible to each other.

[thaibeachlovers]

17 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I think it's pretty obvious: It's about a possible couple going out together. They might kiss, they might have sex, or they might not because one or both of them find out that they and not compatible to each other.

It's not obvious. Even Wikipedia can't tell me exactly what it is. You certainly didn't clear it up.

[Happyman58]

4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I see many good looking ladies walking without a man every day. Many of them are on the way to their work, in the lunch break, or on their way back home. I am sure some or maybe even many of them have a boyfriend or husband. The fact that they don't run around with a man at their side means exactly nothing.

Does mate when there house is right beside our shop and she lives with mum and dad. But ok I know nothing thanks for your input

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, Happyman58 said:

Does mate when there house is right beside our shop and she lives with mum and dad. But ok I know nothing thanks for your input

Sorry I didn't know their house it right beside your shop. Must be my fault. 

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It's not obvious. Even Wikipedia can't tell me exactly what it is. You certainly didn't clear it up.

And what would you do if you would know exactly what it is?

I guess Wikipedia can also not exactly explain what love is. Does it matter?

[Ulysses G.]

On 2/13/2018 at 10:11 PM, BobbyL said:

One of the most endearing characteristics of Thai people is their desire to be unfailingly polite. This is why they end their Thai sentences with “ka” and “krub.”

 

This is one thing I absolutely hate. 

I like it. I am guilty of sometimes saying thank you in English AND Thai when talking to Thai people, just to sure I am polite.

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎2‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 5:42 PM, OneMoreFarang said:

And what would you do if you would know exactly what it is?

I guess Wikipedia can also not exactly explain what love is. Does it matter?

I would know what to expect if a girl asked me out on a date. I don't like going out with a woman I want to bonk not knowing if it's going to have a happy ending, or not.

Love is easy. It's a cover word for a variety of emotional attachments, but in the way it's most often used it doesn't exist. People are either in lust, or they are friends with benefits and sometimes they are just friends with strong feelings.

Others will have their own definition.

[poanoi]

i'm pretty hard to get and a stiff upper lip, but the most successful approach has

turned out to be grab me by the crotch  instead of the wai as opener

[metisdead]

Troll posts and the replies have been removed. 

[ScotBkk]

On 2/14/2018 at 7:28 AM, PatOngo said:

Just say "Hello hansum man, where you come fom, I like you"

And ......... short time, long time  ??

[Justfine]

On 17/02/2018 at 9:10 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

I would know what to expect if a girl asked me out on a date. I don't like going out with a woman I want to bonk not knowing if it's going to have a happy ending, or not.

Love is easy. It's a cover word for a variety of emotional attachments, but in the way it's most often used it doesn't exist. People are either in lust, or they are friends with benefits and sometimes they are just friends with strong feelings.

Others will have their own definition.

Then don't. Go with hookers. You know the end result.

 

Expecting a quality woman to bonk on the 1st date is daft.

[MaeJoMTB]

32 minutes ago, Justfine said:

Then don't. Go with hookers. You know the end result.

Expecting a quality woman to bonk on the 1st date is daft.

"Expecting a quality woman is daft" ...... fixed it for ya.  

[MaeJoMTB]

On 2/16/2018 at 1:20 PM, Berkshire said:

Absolutely true.  It's the old "I no like Thai man, only like farang" classic, which is what they teach in Bargirl 101.  One would have to be pretty naive to fall for that line.

I also believed it was her first night working bar, and I was the first man she went home with.

[Justfine]

1 minute ago, MaeJoMTB said:

I also believed it was her first night working bar, and I was the first man she went home with.

Someone gets the first night. The rest get seconds.

[MaeJoMTB]

On 2/16/2018 at 3:41 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

I'm always puzzled by the term "dating". Is it just taking a woman out somewhere and a hug/ kiss on the cheek goodnight, or is it taking a woman out somewhere and a happy ending but sleeping in different houses?

 

I have checked with Wikipedia, but it does not clarify, merely saying it "varies in different countries" and "couples may or may not be having sexual relations".

 

I'm interested to hear what people in the real world think it is.

 

I think 'Dating' means you don't hand her cash after having sex, and she hasn't moved in.

[Justfine]

Who relies on wiki for definitions?

[MaeJoMTB]

On 2/16/2018 at 12:05 PM, OneMoreFarang said:

But there are also many Thai women out there who don't talk much or not at all with foreigners. I guess some or even many of them have a Thai partner. And they don't tell if they are happy with him.

They may not talk to me (foreigner), but they talk with my wife (Thai) and she doesn't hold back when she gets home.

Seems to be one long tale of woe, cheating, mia nois, financial difficulties and general dissatisfaction.

Same as all our 1st wives in our home countries.

 

Women seem to expect/want more than most men can give/provide these days.

(Middle class gated moobaan with approx 250 houses)

[Justfine]

3 minutes ago, MaeJoMTB said:

They may not talk to me (foreigner), but they talk with my wife and she doesn't hold back when she gets home.

Seems to be one long tale of woe, cheating, mia nois, financial difficulties and general dissatisfaction.

Same as all our 1st wives in our home countries.

 

Women seem to expect/want more than most men can give/provide these days.

(Middle class gated moobaan with approx 250 houses)

That's humans. People like to complain and want more.

[Chou Anou]

On 2/13/2018 at 10:05 PM, Genmai said:

 

Who the **** writes this crap? I must be living in a different universe from this 'author'-

 

 

Haha...watch it, talking like that about the precious "Web Fact" posts is gonna get you suspended or banned real quick.

[Justfine]

On 14/02/2018 at 4:11 PM, BobbyL said:

One of the most endearing characteristics of Thai people is their desire to be unfailingly polite. This is why they end their Thai sentences with “ka” and “krub.”

 

This is one thing I absolutely hate. 

Fake politeness. True manners can be seen on the roads.

 

Actions speak louder than words.

[Ulysses G.]

22 hours ago, Justfine said:

Fake politeness. True manners can be seen on the roads.

 

 

Not fake. Different situations and plenty of Thais are polite when driving. The bad apples just stand out.

[Justfine]

2 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

Not fake. Different situations and plenty of Thais are polite when driving. The bad apples just stand out.

Not many.

[StreetCowboy]

2 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

Not fake. Different situations and plenty of Thais are polite when driving. The bad apples just stand out.

I think the problem in Thailand is that most Thais are much more tolerant of bad driving, and bad drivers can rely on someone giving way to them.  If all drivers were bad, there would be no queue for them to cut in front of.

[Justfine]

24 minutes ago, StreetCowboy said:

I think the problem in Thailand is that most Thais are much more tolerant of bad driving, and bad drivers can rely on someone giving way to them.  If all drivers were bad, there would be no queue for them to cut in front of.

They accept a lot of bad behaviour due to avoiding conflict. Explains a lot.

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎2‎/‎28‎/‎2018 at 7:53 AM, Justfine said:

Then don't. Go with hookers. You know the end result.

 

Expecting a quality woman to bonk on the 1st date is daft.

I do and I don't.

Can't be bothered with all that "can I buy you a drink" BS and then pretending to care what they think on the off chance I might get lucky.

I worked with women and they'd tell me about how they can go down the pub and get free drinks all night, then just walk away and laugh at the mugs that thought they were in.

I prefer a gogo where I can look at beautiful women's boobs without being treated like a pariah, and if I want, a happy ending is guaranteed.

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎2‎/‎28‎/‎2018 at 8:30 AM, MaeJoMTB said:

 

I think 'Dating' means you don't hand her cash after having sex, and she hasn't moved in.

If I'd known that 40 years ago I would have just "dated" my ex and I'd be a rich man today.