Humans first - soi dogs second! Thais now advocating "the final solution"

[Wilsonandson]

Bangkok suspected rabies cases

 

18/3/18

- Bang khun thian

19/3/18

- Dusit

20/3/18

- Ladphrao

- Bang khen

- Bang Na

- Bang Khae

 

The map of Thailand with red dots showing each case rabies so far in 2018. Updated daily. Today's map....

6 dead in less than 3 months!

Time to set zero!

Human lives matter.

 

[evadgib]

At my local Tesco on Sunday I had to walk past a pack of resident soi dogs slumbering in the car park in order to reach my car which was down a ramp on the lower level. When I passed them they barely stirred, but as soon as I walked down the ramp they leapt up an went ballistic. I immediately turned & walked back up the ramp while looking straight at the alpha male to let everyone know that I was having none of it. Had I not done so or chosen to run it is fair to assume that I would have been bitten as the nearest animals were mighty close...

 

Feral dogs & cats are a health hazard and should be destroyed!

[Wilsonandson]

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Location: 7-11 beside Donmuang Railway Station, opposite to Don Muang Airport, // animal type: dog // appearance: white Circulation of the body. // Symptoms: vomiting, drooling, lethargy, slow response.

A suspected case report from 7th March.

 

 

I went to my local 7/11 today, thankfully the 3 stray dogs I had to step over didn't have rabies.

 

When will it sink in to peoples heads that rabies is a deadly disease!

 

Get rid of those strays outside the 7/11 they are a health hazard!

[johng]

Had I not done so or chosen to run it is fair to assume that I would have been bitten

Never run from a dog they can run much faster than any human.

[Wilsonandson]

Read this ..

Protect yourself from dogs while walking guide from wikihow.

It could save your life.

 

https://m.wikihow.com/Protect-Yourself-from-Dogs-While-Walking

[Wilsonandson]

 

Rabid dead horse found next to a temple in Udon Thani.

Found this morning by villagers who alerted the livestock authorities.

The buffalo in Buri Ram found on Friday last week was confirmed yesterday to have died from rabies.

 

[johng]

I found the don't show teeth and look to the distance to work quite well while on motorbike or bicycle.

[Wilsonandson]

Breaking news!

 

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Department of Livestock Situation Report rabies The disease situation in 14 provinces in the last 24 provinces where the outbreak of the "set ZERO dog" in Nakhon Si Thammarat. | | | | | | | | | | | Settlers Zero homeless dogs must do.

Loosely translated from Thai media in the past few minutes.

[Wilsonandson]

 

[vogie]

3 minutes ago, Wilsonandson said:

 

Sheer madness, I hope she falls in the dog shat, ignorance is not bliss.

[The manic]

On 3/15/2018 at 9:24 PM, Stupooey said:

After scrolling through post after post proclaiming that "something must be done", it was a relief to reach no. 139 to find someone who was actually doing something to tackle the problem. Unfortunately the capture, vaccinate, neuter, release solution does not appeal to the "flog 'em, hang 'em, shoot 'em" TV brigade, as subsequent comments on this post have all been scathing. My experience tells me otherwise.

Our village has a relatively minor soi dog problem, which we have gone a small way to alleviating by adopting eight stray puppies and having them vaccinated and neutered. Cycling round the area has shown that the strays tend to ignore us - it is the dogs who think we have invaded their territory by cycling past their houses that tend to be aggressive.

However, a nearby town did have a stray dog problem. On enquiring, we found out that a local lady was running a capture, vaccinate, neuter, release programme in conjunction with a local vet, constrained only by lack of funds. We have therefore helped her financially and also with food to give the dogs in her care. We also discovered that a local organisation had an excess of funds which they wanted to donate to a good cause. Having seen how the programme operated, and noticing the positive effect it was having on the local dog population, they were persuaded to lend their support.

This type of action certainly works at a local level. Maybe if the almost 200 posters who have advocated a more radical, but probably unworkable, solution were to actually take some action instead of just blustering, then it would go some way to solving the problem.

 

They still bite people.  They still savage children.  The dogs get sick and, riddled with sores, wounds, abscesses, parasites etc.  Killing animal, when appropriate,has always been part of human responsibility and duty of care. The silly, anthropomorphic sentimentality of some posters is endangering us all and in particular small children. Not one single dog is worth the life of a child or any human for that matter. 

[johng]

On 3/19/2018 at 12:19 PM, Artisi said:

Well I would have thought the inference was quite obvious it was the " the Police station".

So to make it very clear,  2 dogs / week , dead or alive to the police station .

 

3 dogs already at this "police station".

 

 

 

[johng]

Another child died    R.I.P

 

[smew]

Poluted beaches, garbage all around, crazy driving culture and soi dogs always being discussed just about every year on the dot and as always nothing will be done, this is Thailand land of lazy cops and politicians whose goal is to talk only!!

[Keesters]

On 3/17/2018 at 5:49 AM, Fish Head Soup said:

Are you sure? I don't believe such a law exists.

I'm sure why do you think i wrote it. Go ask at veterinary section of public health. They are very clear about it.

 

 

[Keesters]

On 3/16/2018 at 2:11 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

Sorry, but I have to disagree. A civilized society would never allow dogs to breed to the point that there were ANY unwanted dogs to be put in pounds.

Pounds, IMO are a sign of a society that doesn't care about animals.

Many strays were puppies that were given as a gift and were unwanted when they got big. That should never be allowed. If someone doesn't want a pet, they should have to give it away, sell it or have it put down themselves.

Pounds are not only for unwanted dogs but for those that escape custody. Pounds have NOTHING to do with dogs breeding. Learn about what Battersea dogs home does before calling UK an uncivilised country which it isn't when it comes to animals. Many dogs are gifted to Battersea if they become unwanted or unable to be cared for and then, hopefully, found new homes. Thailand just lets them loose on the street because there are no POUNDS to take them too. Pounds would make for a better and more civilised society.

 

[johng]

Today at the hospital

[GarryP]

7 minutes ago, johng said:

Today at the hospital

That's good. They were obviously going for their rabies booster shots. Such well trained dogs. An example to all.

[bluedoc]

When are the people governing Thailand going to wake up. There are bad things going on in Thailand. Huge corruption ie. vaping/cigarette companies. Vaping is far more healthier than smoking except in the pocket of the man that makes the decision. Rabies is a serious problem. Stray dogs, call them soi or whatever you want are a major spread of rabies, I’m sorry for the soi dog charities, but they need to wise up. It is causing death to thai people and a threat to tourism. 

[Airbagwill]

37 minutes ago, bluedoc said:

When are the people governing Thailand going to wake up. There are bad things going on in Thailand. Huge corruption ie. vaping/cigarette companies. Vaping is far more healthier than smoking except in the pocket of the man that makes the decision. Rabies is a serious problem. Stray dogs, call them soi or whatever you want are a major spread of rabies, I’m sorry for the soi dog charities, but they need to wise up. It is causing death to thai people and a threat to tourism. 

the Soi Dog Charity is actually trained up to deal with this problem and offered an independently financed solution which the BMA turned down.

[bluedoc]

What solution was that

[bluedoc]

Let me help you, how many soi dogs. How many people in soi dog charity

[Airbagwill]

On 3/22/2018 at 7:12 AM, Keesters said:

Pounds are not only for unwanted dogs but for those that escape custody. Pounds have NOTHING to do with dogs breeding. Learn about what Battersea dogs home does before calling UK an uncivilised country which it isn't when it comes to animals. Many dogs are gifted to Battersea if they become unwanted or unable to be cared for and then, hopefully, found new homes. Thailand just lets them loose on the street because there are no POUNDS to take them too. Pounds would make for a better and more civilised society.

 

In countries like the UK the "dog problem" involves tiny numbers compared to Thailand so operations like Battersea can be successful. In Bangkok alone you'll need to impound 750,000 dogs. the total figure for the UK is over100,000 and the pounds etc are however at "breaking point". so Thailand with no proper infrastructure or policies is quite unable to cope.

 

the other problem is that removing dogs from packs enables other dogs to move in to take their place and this results in the spreading of rabies.

[bluedoc]

Simple maths a bitch can have a litter every two months. Say 5 each litter. Say 2 females each litter. Carry on. Get rid of all soi dogs not claimed, get rid off all dogs in pack. If someone wants a dog they should get a licence. Chip all dogs.

[bluedoc]

It’s stupid to impound them. Don’t impound, catch them as humanely as possible. And dispatch them as humanely as possible. But get rid. They shit anywhere, on streets, on grass on the beach, young children play on the beach and inadvertently get ill because of dogs. Cull all dogs on the loose, with or without collar.

[Airbagwill]

2 minutes ago, bluedoc said:

Simple maths a bitch can have a litter every two months. Say 5 each litter. Say 2 females each litter. Carry on. Get rid of all soi dogs not claimed, get rid off all dogs in pack. If someone wants a dog they should get a licence. Chip all dogs.

Unlikely - 4 litters a year maybe, but the dog will probably die after 3 years.

however if you look at the extended family that results, it can expand to over 65,000 in 6 years....

 

As you point out though, dogs breed fast and unless you simultaneously kill the entire population dogs from other areas just replace the culled animals and the population continues to grow and the spread ofdiseases like rabies increases.

 

however dogs won't live or breed in areas where there is no food.

[oldlakey]

On 3/22/2018 at 4:00 PM, GarryP said:

That's good. They were obviously going for their rabies booster shots. Such well trained dogs. An example to all.

What can you do but titter at such backward people

[Orton Rd]

1 hour ago, bluedoc said:

What solution was that

The fantasy one of speying up to 4 million dogs, like trying to bale out a sinking ship with a bucket

[Airbagwill]

1 hour ago, Orton Rd said:

The fantasy one of speying up to 4 million dogs, like trying to bale out a sinking ship with a bucket

Apparently The Soi Dog Foundation is currently undertaking a 7 year plan....

 

https://www.soidog.org/content/mobile-spayneuter-bangkok

 

 

[Airbagwill]

3 hours ago, bluedoc said:

What solution was that

please if you are going to post on this topic, get up to speed on the situation.