Bikeshare Seen As Step To Stop Smog In Bangkok, Chiang Mai

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Bikeshare Seen As Step To Stop Smog In Bangkok, Chiang Mai

By Pravit Rojanaphruk, Senior Staff Writer

 

Photo: Mobike Thailand / Twitter

 

BANGKOK — A smart bikeshare soon to hit the streets of Bangkok was one way presented at a Wednesday conference to improve the quality of the capital’s air.

 

Beijing-based Mobike was unveiled as an alternative transport to motor vehicles during a conference at the United Nations, in an effort to curb mounting air pollution in Bangkok, which in recent weeks has left the capital gasping for air. The system is operated via a phone app.

 

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[NutsMango]

Such smart idea... hide real problem behind bs

[kannot]

Street deaths rise as new bike "fad"  hits major  Thai cities, next TV headline

[The manic]

Stop smoking stop complaining or move out of the city... Any city.. Including suburbs of London or new, York... It's just the I'll educated malcontents demonstrating cultural Marxism ....most SJW who complain about Inner city pollution moved there voluntarily..

[JimmyJ]

1 hour ago, The manic said:

Stop smoking stop complaining or move out of the city... Any city.. Including suburbs of London or new, York... It's just the I'll educated malcontents demonstrating cultural Marxism ....most SJW who complain about Inner city pollution moved there voluntarily..

What a great post!

 

Indeed - If you don't like it, just move.

Don't attempt to improve the situation, instead name call people who are trying to make things better.

Surely name calling > improve the air.

 

Incidentally - I assume that "I'll educated" is an ill educated attempt at writing "ill educated".

Edited March 22, 2018 by JimmyJ

[alant]

Yep these cycles will prevent the burning

[blackcab]

Bangkok has had a bike sharing scheme for years. I've never seen one of the bikes being used or parked anywhere other than a docking station.

[jonclark]

[RichardColeman]

and up next on the Bangkok tourist brochure

[ChouDoufu]

great idea from a non-cyclist?

 

just who is going to voluntarily give up their comfy SUV

with leather seats and chilly AC and sound system and

cup holders and video in dash to ride a poorly-maintained

bicycle on the congested, smoggy, dangerous bangkok

roads..........in 40 degree temps?

 

wanna bet the contract will wind up purchasing thousands

of crappy chinese $100 rentabikes for the special price

of $7500 each?  and don't forget the zillion baht contract

awarded to someone's nephew to inflate the tires.

[anon4637435435]

I cant see many thais that behave like vampires during the day wanting to get a tan whilst riding or bothering with additional clothing just to ride. 

Is this for tourists only?

[PatOngo]

This will prove very popular, Thai's will leave the status symbol car at home and take to the congested, smoggy polluted air of Bangkok in droves on their bikes and in a month the air will be crystal clear. Yes, makes a lot of sense!  The good ideas just keep coming!

[Cadbury]

Good luck with that Bangkok. China thought it was the answer to a prayer to reduce air pollution in the cities. Now they have a bike share pollution problem on top of the air pollution problem.

Beijing-based Mobike is simply offloading their problem from Beijing to Bangkok.

https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2018/03/bike-share-oversupply-in-china-huge-piles-of-abandoned-and-broken-bicycles/556268/

Edited March 23, 2018 by Cadbury

[JonnyF]

A better solution would be to encourage people to use small cc motorbikes. Incredibly fuel efficient and non polluting, very convenient and helps reduce congestion and parking issues. The best thing is loads of people already own them. 

 

But no, instead of creating motorcycle lanes and bike parking to encourage this solution, these small motorcycles are seen as poor people's vehicles so they are banned from bridges/overpasses and subjected to daily shakedowns by police. It's one of the reasons I often leave my congestion beating, environmentally friendly motorcycle at home and drive my car every day (with no passengers). That way the police don't bother me and I can lose an hour sat it traffic while adding to all the problems.

 

[ChouDoufu]

would be better to build a real bus system and

ban anything larger than a swift.

 

Scooters pollute more than lorries

Scooters give off thousands of times more smog-causing pollutants than larger vehicles, according to research

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/10834679/Scooters-pollute-more-than-lorries.html

[Cadbury]

I can just imagine what the next road death world record statistic announcement would be.

 

Thailand has the highest pedal bicycle death rate in the world.

If these bikes appear in big numbers on the streets of Bangkok and the larger cities their largely helmetless riders will be squashed like ants by lunatic drivers of cars and buses and trucks.

Not only that but territorial wars will break out between motorcyclists and push bike riders for priveleges for riding on the pavements.

 

[ChouDoufu]

from same article:

 

"Using average two stroke scooter emission factors... suggests that two stroke scooters contribute to around 60 per cent of roadside POA in Bangkok, where they account for 10 per cent of fuel consumption."

 

 

i'd love to cycle here in the city, but it's just crazy.  too many dead-end sois,

only way to travel is on the 2 or 3 lane roads.  with 3 lanes of traffic, you get

4 lanes of crazy scooter drivers.  but 4 lanes still isn't enough, they try to

cut between cyclists and parked cars, or speed by in the gutter between

the cyclist and the kerb.

[connda]

Bikeshare Seen As Step To Stop Smog In Bangkok, Chiang Mai

 

Dream on.........

[Eligius]

This idea of getting people out on bicycles in Bangkok at the present time is totally ludicrous! Vigorous exercise in the Bangkok 'air' (even with a mask - whose protection is dubious at best) is the very LAST thing that should be counselled.

 

As someone who has recently been suffering from the sharp recent rise in BKK air pollution, I can say that the best thing is to stay well clear of bicycling in Bangkok streets. It's a recipe for a health disaster (if not a traffic one too!).

 

Edited March 23, 2018 by Eligius

[alant]

1 hour ago, ChouDoufu said:

would be better to build a real bus system and

ban anything larger than a swift.

 

Scooters pollute more than lorries

Scooters give off thousands of times more smog-causing pollutants than larger vehicles, according to research

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/10834679/Scooters-pollute-more-than-lorries.html

Very old article based on 2 stroke engines that does not reflect todays bikes.

[JonnyF]

2 hours ago, ChouDoufu said:

would be better to build a real bus system and

ban anything larger than a swift.

 

Scooters pollute more than lorries

Scooters give off thousands of times more smog-causing pollutants than larger vehicles, according to research

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/10834679/Scooters-pollute-more-than-lorries.html

A very misleading article that gives a shocking, attention grabbing headline and then halfway through admits that the scooters they are referring to are in fact dirty old 2 stroke scooters. I wonder what would happen if they turned the tables and compared a modern, 4 stroke Euro 4 110cc motorcycle with 40 year old Diesel cement truck that had never been serviced (coincidentally, exactly like the ones you see in Bangkok!). You think those trucks/buses belching huge plumes of black fumes everywhere are cleaner than a 2018 Honda Wave? 

 

Euro 4, 4 stroke "scooters" are incredibly clean and efficient.

[CLW]

would be better to build a real bus system and

ban anything larger than a swift.

 

Scooters pollute more than lorries

Scooters give off thousands of times more smog-causing pollutants than larger vehicles, according to research

 
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/10834679/Scooters-pollute-more-than-lorries.html

Next time please do your research before posting old articles.
95 % of the motorcycles in BKK and Thailand are 4 stroke engines.

Taken from the data sheet of Hondas SH 125 scooter.
2.4 l on 100 km
Euro 4 emissions level
54 g/km CO2 emissions

It's roughly half of a compact car.

That is already good if you riding it only with one person.
With two people it is probably the most efficient individual transport except electric vehicles or bicycles.
Not calculated the time and emissions you save by not stuck idle in traffic jam.

[ChouDoufu]

my mistake.  thought it was recent, as it had the

current date at the top.  was at the top of a long

list of googled articles.

 

didn't notice the ancient "may 2014" byline.

[Thian]

On 23-3-2018 at 11:51 AM, PatOngo said:

This will prove very popular, Thai's will leave the status symbol car at home and take to the congested, smoggy polluted air of Bangkok in droves on their bikes and in a month the air will be crystal clear. Yes, makes a lot of sense!  The good ideas just keep coming!

I have loads of thai neighbours with the most expensive bicycles and outfits....and they really use them but only in the moobaan..

[Thian]

2 hours ago, CLW said:

Next time please do your research before posting old articles.
95 % of the motorcycles in BKK and Thailand are 4 stroke engines.

Taken from the data sheet of Hondas SH 125 scooter.
2.4 l on 100 km
Euro 4 emissions level
54 g/km CO2 emissions

It's roughly half of a compact car.

That is already good if you riding it only with one person.
With two people it is probably the most efficient individual transport except electric vehicles or bicycles.
Not calculated the time and emissions you save by not stuck idle in traffic jam.

Yup BKK needs a special lane for scooters like that...no congestion, fast transport, no parkingproblems, no smog, saves fuel....

 

With a special lane many more people will start driving scooter instead of the car so it'll be better for everyone.

[coulson]

That could fly as a sort of novelty around Chiang Mai or Dusit. But as a pollution stopper, well....a little more study/ thinking may be required.

[CLW]

Yup BKK needs a special lane for scooters like that...no congestion, fast transport, no parkingproblems, no smog, saves fuel....
 
With a special lane many more people will start driving scooter instead of the car so it'll be better for everyone.

Vietnam has it already and it's fantastic

[Thian]

32 minutes ago, CLW said:

1 hour ago, Thian said:

Yup BKK needs a special lane for scooters like that...no congestion, fast transport, no parkingproblems, no smog, saves fuel....
 
With a special lane many more people will start driving scooter instead of the car so it'll be better for everyone.

Vietnam has it already and it's fantastic

In Amsterdam they want to block ALL cars in the city, at least that's a proposal. London has the 25? quid charge to enter the citycentre by car.

 

Also Amsterdam has loads of those rentalbikes now, so many that they even block sidewalks so the city wants to get rid of them.

Those bikes also occupy bicycleparkinglots when not in use and normal cyclist can't park their bike now because of that.

 

But cycling in BKK is very dangerous, better drive a scooter so you're not the slowest vehicle on the road.

 

My scooter drives 45 km on a litre in BKK, 55 outside BKK..

 

But to stop pollution there's so much that can be done in BKK..the problem is the government won't do it.