Buying a car 2.5m baht budget

[ardokano]

On 14.04.2018 at 11:28 AM, HAKAPALITA said:

Early Fortuna or Ford .?.

Its it's modern fortuner.:)

[ExpatOilWorker]

Looks like Mercedes is committed to plug-in hybrid models.

[KC 71]

You can get a nice motor for half that price


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[mortenaa]

I just bought the BMW X1 2018 Diesel M-sport. In your budget. It drives very well, and practical. 40-20-40 rear seats split, and good trunk space. Very nice overview when you are driving. Powerful enough, loads of torque. The seats are a bit hard, but OK for me. Just took it for 1500km drive. Missing some options like Connected Drive and Apple Car integration, but I think that will arrive shortly (some models just got it). 

[mortenaa]

On 3/30/2018 at 11:16 PM, gamesgplayemail said:

 

I do not know about Mazda but I confirm that all newest toyota and honda that I have tried are just crap to drive.

 

I believe you about ride, but don't tell me that you CX5 interior is as nice as a BMW interior (which in my opinion are already not as nice as Benz interiors).

 

 

 

 

 

Actually the new CX-5 is quite amazing compared to other Japanese cars. Its breathing the Germans in the neck I would say, and I actually considered it for a while. The dealer couldn't provide a test car, so I ended up with the X1.. 

[ardokano]

1 hour ago, mortenaa said:

Actually the new CX-5 is quite amazing compared to other Japanese cars. Its breathing the Germans in the neck I would say, and I actually considered it for a while. The dealer couldn't provide a test car, so I ended up with the X1.. 

strange. the dealer gave me mazda  CX5 does not breathe anywhere. Handling is worse than x1, stay and catch  road not well.but its nice car if compares with price.only was shocked that even the electric seats for the passenger not have:)

[HampiK]

9 hours ago, ardokano said:

strange. the dealer gave me mazda  CX5 does not breathe anywhere. Handling is worse than x1, stay and catch  road not well.but its nice car if compares with price.only was shocked that even the electric seats for the passenger not have:)

I am very surprised as the CX-5 (SP version) have electric seat on passenger site. Maybe you looked at the cheaper versions

[mortenaa]

11 hours ago, ardokano said:

strange. the dealer gave me mazda  CX5 does not breathe anywhere. Handling is worse than x1, stay and catch  road not well.but its nice car if compares with price.only was shocked that even the electric seats for the passenger not have:)

 

As I said, I haven't tried it. Read some reviews though. Anyway quite happy with my X1.

[stephenterry]

BMW X3 355 hp M40i is perfect. 2.3 million.

[mortenaa]

35 minutes ago, stephenterry said:

BMW X3 355 hp M40i is perfect. 2.3 million.

In the US? :D I guess here it would be close to 10 million.

[ardokano]

7 hours ago, HampiK said:

I am very surprised as the CX-5 (SP version) have electric seat on passenger site. Maybe you looked at the cheaper versions

45k isn't cheap:) 

[Tofer]

1 hour ago, ardokano said:

45k isn't cheap:) 

45k is very cheap. You can only buy a motorbike for that!

[Rdrokit]

1 hour ago, ardokano said:

45k isn't cheap:) 

If you are talking 45,000 US dollars it's not cheap but you have to look at in baht. At 1.5 million baht it is a nice SUV. If you look at cars in foreign money none are cheap especially with the current poor exchange rates. 

[ardokano]

1 hour ago, Tofer said:

 

For 45k I can buy even superbike:)

Edited April 18, 2018 by ardokano

[ardokano]

1 hour ago, Rdrokit said:

If you are talking 45,000 US dollars it's not cheap but you have to look at in baht. At 1.5 million baht it is a nice SUV. If you look at cars in foreign money none are cheap especially with the current poor exchange rates. 

Its fine SUV. With pure acceleration..

What matter what money? 45k$ its 1400000b so isn't cheap. 

[owl sees all]

2.5 million Baht eh!

 

Top of the range Hyundai.

Second hand Mitzi Evo.

Second hand Subaru Imp.

 

Or that new Ford pick-up everyone is raving about'

 

 

[richard_smith237]

19 hours ago, ardokano said:

strange. the dealer gave me mazda  CX5 does not breathe anywhere. Handling is worse than x1, stay and catch  road not well.but its nice car if compares with price.only was shocked that even the electric seats for the passenger not have:)

'breathe anywhere' ??? (I'm not sure what you mean by this).

 

The new Model BMW X1 is a lovely car (Does it have the heads up Display, lane departure, active cruse control etc?)

 

Handling?....  Perhaps, I'm not sure... if I wanted handling I wouldn't be choosing an SUV. In fact, the whole handle better is a little lost on me. I don't imagine I'll ever drive a car on the road to consider its handling that important. That said, good safety features are important in the event of necessary evasive action... 

 

The Mazda CX-5 has Electric Passenger seat and Memory Drivers seats. Did you look at an older or second-hand model? bottom of the range model?

It also has an electronic sun-roof.

 

Other impressive features of the Mazda include the following: 

 

Active Driving display (Heads up Display)

Lane Keep Assist (hands off the steering wheel and it keeps within the lane or provides a set level resistance against departing the lane (when not indicating). 

Lane Departure Warning (Alarms when departing lane without indication)

Radar Cruize control (maintains set distance from car in front on highways)

Adaptive Front Lighting (adjust/turns to corners)

High Beam Control (automatically dips headlights for oncoming vehicles)

Smart Brake Support (above 15kmh -  smart braking)

Smart City Brake Support (below 15kmh - emergency braking - collision avoidance)

Smart City Brake Support Reverse

Driver Attention Alert (After a certain duration, and consistent speed, steering - pings an alarm)

Active Blind Spot Monitoring (warning on HUD and on Mirrors)

Rear Cross Traffic Alert (alerts for blind spot traffic when reversing out of a space)

 

 

Coming from a BMW to the Mazda:  

Annoyance: On the Mazda the side Mirrors do not auto adjust along with the seat settings. In the BMW when I get it and Press Memory 1 for the seats the side mirrors also adjust to my settings. When my Wife gets in and Presses Memory 2 for the seats, the mirrors also adjust to her settings. 

 

Annoyance: No Sun Blind for the rear passengers on the Mazda (in the BMW this was useful to keep the sun off my son in his car seat). 

 

Improvement: Better toys and safety features (which may be offered on the newest BMW's ?).

 

SatNav: After using BMW's iDrive on 2 separate cars over the past 6 years I've found the Map on the Mazda harder to follow and read. But some aspects, such as address input are easier. 

 

Speed: 528i (2.0 twin turbo petrol) was obviously faster. X5 25d (2.0 twin turbo diesel) was also faster than the 2.2 Diesel CX-5 (which does 0-100 kmh in 8.4 secs which is enough).

 

Considering a step down from a 4.6 MB car to a 1.75MB car the only real difference is in the physical size of the vehicle (X5 obviously being a 'step' larger) with better features on the more modern C-X5 (the BMW F15 was 3 years old). 

 

 

[talahtnut]

33 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

'breathe anywhere' ??? (I'm not sure what you mean by this).

 

The new Model BMW X1 is a lovely car (Does it have the heads up Display, lane departure, active cruse control etc?)

 

Handling?....  Perhaps, I'm not sure... if I wanted handling I wouldn't be choosing an SUV. In fact, the whole handle better is a little lost on me. I don't imagine I'll ever drive a car on the road to consider its handling that important. That said, good safety features are important in the event of necessary evasive action... 

 

The Mazda CX-5 has Electric Passenger seat and Memory Drivers seats. Did you look at an older or second-hand model? bottom of the range model?

It also has an electronic sun-roof.

 

Other impressive features of the Mazda include the following: 

 

Active Driving display (Heads up Display)

Lane Keep Assist (hands off the steering wheel and it keeps within the lane or provides a set level resistance against departing the lane (when not indicating). 

Lane Departure Warning (Alarms when departing lane without indication)

Radar Cruize control (maintains set distance from car in front on highways)

Adaptive Front Lighting (adjust/turns to corners)

High Beam Control (automatically dips headlights for oncoming vehicles)

Smart Brake Support (above 15kmh -  smart braking)

Smart City Brake Support (below 15kmh - emergency braking - collision avoidance)

Smart City Brake Support Reverse

Driver Attention Alert (After a certain duration, and consistent speed, steering - pings an alarm)

Active Blind Spot Monitoring (warning on HUD and on Mirrors)

Rear Cross Traffic Alert (alerts for blind spot traffic when reversing out of a space)

 

 

Coming from a BMW to the Mazda:  

Annoyance: On the Mazda the side Mirrors do not auto adjust along with the seat settings. In the BMW when I get it and Press Memory 1 for the seats the side mirrors also adjust to my settings. When my Wife gets in and Presses Memory 2 for the seats, the mirrors also adjust to her settings. 

 

Annoyance: No Sun Blind for the rear passengers on the Mazda (in the BMW this was useful to keep the sun off my son in his car seat). 

 

Improvement: Better toys and safety features (which may be offered on the newest BMW's ?).

 

SatNav: After using BMW's iDrive on 2 separate cars over the past 6 years I've found the Map on the Mazda harder to follow and read. But some aspects, such as address input are easier. 

 

Speed: 528i (2.0 twin turbo petrol) was obviously faster. X5 25d (2.0 twin turbo diesel) was also faster than the 2.2 Diesel CX-5 (which does 0-100 kmh in 8.4 secs which is enough).

 

Considering a step down from a 4.6 MB car to a 1.75MB car the only real difference is in the physical size of the vehicle (X5 obviously being a 'step' larger) with better features on the more modern C-X5 (the BMW F15 was 3 years old). 

 

 

You lot are far too mind boggling fussy..Steering wheel bonces.

[HAKAPALITA]

1 hour ago, talahtnut said:

You lot are far too mind boggling fussy..Steering wheel bonces.

I turn everything off n engage it in sports mode, then Wife n Son turn it back to bloody  slow ,  beep/flash n bounce mode.!!

[richard_smith237]

40 minutes ago, talahtnut said:

You lot are far too mind boggling fussy..Steering wheel bonces.

Now, now there.....  I'm sure the cars those now in their twilight years enjoyed had lots of character... 

[talahtnut]

53 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Now, now there.....  I'm sure the cars those now in their twilight years enjoyed had lots of character... 

Character, beauty, and class like the E type and 230 sl pagoda.

Us oldies have standards, you know.

[richard_smith237]

7 minutes ago, talahtnut said:

Character, beauty, and class like the E type and 230 sl pagoda.

Us oldies have standards, you know.

Wooo... look at you, go you 'steering wheel bonce' you !!!!

 

.....Wonderful cars (to look at), I'm not sure I'd want one as my 'main driver' in Bangkok though...  disappointingly, you can't get one of those for 2.5 MB (in Thailand)... thus, we instead were are stuck in the boring realm of what is the most convenient, safe and practical for our families...  or affordable... 

 

If neither were a concern, well... the list is huge... If just money were not a concern - it would be the Big Daddy....  A Range Rover...

 

Unfortunately, dreaming is for kids and pensioners.... compromise b!tch-slaps the beast out of the rest of us and we end up with something we can afford and use day to day... 

[JaseTheBass]

If you are talking 45,000 US dollars it's not cheap but you have to look at in baht. At 1.5 million baht it is a nice SUV. If you look at cars in foreign money none are cheap especially with the current poor exchange rates. 

My car is considerably cheaper here than in the UK, Europe or Australia/NZ.

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[HAKAPALITA]

7 hours ago, JaseTheBass said:

My car is considerably cheaper here than in the UK, Europe or Australia/NZ.

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Isnt that because its go a pissy clonker engine, and not a nice V8,?.

[HampiK]

6 minutes ago, HAKAPALITA said:

Isnt that because its go a pissy clonker engine, and not a nice V8,?.

So tell me which car in Thailand have a V8?

Why everybody like to think if they know cars in their homecountry they know about Thailand as well?

[HAKAPALITA]

1 hour ago, HampiK said:

So tell me which car in Thailand have a V8?

Why everybody like to think if they know cars in their homecountry they know about Thailand as well?

Are you related to Confucius, thats the point.!!.  No V8s.hence cheaper.

[Rdrokit]

3 hours ago, HAKAPALITA said:

Are you related to Confucius, thats the point.!!.  No V8s.hence cheaper.

Pretty sick here for horsepower as the majority of the gas 4 cylinder engines are not even turboed. Not to much in the USA with a non turbo 4 cylinder unless you want a John Deer lawn tractor.

[transam]

4 hours ago, HampiK said:

So tell me which car in Thailand have a V8?

Why everybody like to think if they know cars in their homecountry they know about Thailand as well?

Lexus, which go on forever and other high end stuff....

[ExpatOilWorker]

17 minutes ago, Rdrokit said:

Pretty sick here for horsepower as the majority of the gas 4 cylinder engines are not even turboed. Not to much in the USA with a non turbo 4 cylinder unless you want a John Deer lawn tractor.

Praise yourself lucky you are not in the Nordic European nanny states where a Hyundai i10 with a 66 HP 3 cylinder 998 cc engine is considered a normal family car.

 

95 nm torque, not sure why they even bother mention it.

Edited April 19, 2018 by ExpatOilWorker

[richard_smith237]

18 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Praise yourself lucky you are not in the Nordic European nanny states where a Hyundai i10 with a 66 HP 3 cylinder 998 cc engine is considered a normal family car.

 

2018 Volvo XC90 from 1.82MB (In Sweeden)...  

 

But, I agree, it may not be the normal family car...  but I'm sure there are plenty of them in Northern Europe? No?

 

Edited April 19, 2018 by richard_smith237