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Junta Hits Back At Politico’s Call For Draft Abolition

By Teeranai Charuvastra, Staff Reporter

 

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Potential recruits conscription lottery at a drafting station on April 5 in Phang Nga province.

 

BANGKOK  — A junta spokesman on Tuesday slammed a Pheu Thai politician’s pledge to abolish national conscription if his party wins the next election.

 

Speaking to reporters, Col. Piyapong Klinpan said mandatory service is still necessary to maintain adequate manpower in the armed forces, and accused former MP Watana Muangsook of seeking political gains with his promise.

 

Full story:  http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2018/04/24/junta-hits-back-at-politicos-call-for-draft-abolition/

 
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21 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

" and accused former MP Watana Muangsook of seeking political gains with his promise"

 

incredible insight.

 

Of course but that is his right, I am not so sure he can deliver what he promises though. 

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2 minutes ago, robblok said:

I mean he has the right to promise this... to get votes.. I am less then sure he can ever accomplish this (draft abolition)

I know what you meant. However read this thread in conjunction with this one 

and let's see what rights they will have in all actuality...

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Just now, baboon said:

I know what you meant. However read this thread in conjunction with this one 

and let's see what rights they will have in all actuality...

Yes lets see what that brings, I am PRO draft abolition no matter who suggest it its a good idea. 

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24 minutes ago, runamok27 said:

Does anyone know if there is enough volunteers to go to a pure volunteer military? 

Not sure, but if there is a volunteer army it will be smaller so you can raise salaries of the people serving. That might attract people.

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Conscription in Thailand comes in a number of forms including subconscious conscription. 

There is Children's Day which has evolved into a propaganda display of military weaponry for the brainwashing of children.

There is the village equivalent of the Dad's Army where soldiers go into the villages and run 5 day training courses for the local layabouts using wooden toy guns. (I have photographic and video evidence of this but unable to show it because of the possible retribution on the persons who took the images. I believe they get paid a token amount).  

There is the young schoolchild indoctrination where they dress infants up in army uniforms and let them play war games.

And then there is the unforgiving and heartless official conscription itself.  

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1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

I bet Col Piyapong has a conscript doing his lawn and another doing his laundry.

 

Possibly true and it's been going on for decades.

 

A military guy in my condo always had 3 or 4 young conscripts at his huge condo, to clean the place, do the laundry, do the shopping, drive the officer to work, to entertainments, drive the wife for shopping etc., drive the teenage daughter to uni, wait for her and drive her home, etc. And every day clean the 3 family cars and a big bike. The huge condo (almost one full floor) was owned totally by the wife, given to her by a previous farang businessman. The wife owns several successful companies but is known to be very unpleasant to her company staff. There were regular reports of her smacking the faces of her husband and the conscripts. 

 

Most of the time the conscripts lived in - reality was they ate well, the family had an on staff on call cook, the conscripts had to help with food preparation (they ate the same food as the family) and they could cook whatever other food etc., they wanted as well in the family kitchen, they had their own nice bathroom, nice bedroom, open access to alcohol. 

 

This was the situation for about 5 years that I'm aware, then suddenly the wife and officer broke up (she found a more senior officer), the conscripts disappeared instantly with the initial officer.

 

 

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In theory, I would agree with a professional army. However, in the specific case of Thailand, I am not sure. A conscription based army at least de facto sets some minimal limits to abuses by the army, as it is composed of normal citizens. A professional army may be more likely to be even more self-serving than it is now. Imagine something like the current RTP, but armed with war weapons and not subject to any limitation by the Judiciary. Frightening, indeed.....

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1 hour ago, webfact said:

"Col. Piyapong Klinpan said mandatory service is still necessary to maintain adequate manpower in the armed forces."

True.

They need to maintain adequate manpower to bully the conscripts into doing their shitty tasks for them.

 

My brother-in-law was conscripted, and after basic training for a couple of months was then ordered to look after his CO's ailing parents, both of whom had dementia.

My B-I-L spent well over a year - 24 hours a day - living with them in their house in Bangkok, looking after them as an unpaid servant.

 

As they had dementia, they constantly forgot they had eaten ten minutes before and gave him a hard time as they said he hadn't given them any food.

Every day they watched the same cartoons on TV, as they couldn't remember seeing them the previous day. A very sad situation.

 

So yes, they need adequate manpower.

 

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Sell the submarine , give a complete overhaul of the current system,

Fair money, fair conditions , free public transport , free board and lodgings, 

career pathway , 

and no deaths in training, 

The image would change somewhat, for the better,

 

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1 hour ago, robblok said:

Not sure, but if there is a volunteer army it will be smaller so you can raise salaries of the people serving. That might attract people.

In Thailand, as in most other countries a purely volunteer army is very difficult to fill.

A conscript army isn't that bad.

An army made up wholly of professional soldiers is bad for democracy and difficult to control.

 

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1 minute ago, leeneeds said:

Sell the submarine , give a complete overhaul of the current system,

Fair money, fair conditions , free public transport , free board and lodgings, 

career pathway , 

and no deaths in training, 

The image would change somewhat, for the better,

 

No deaths in training?

Check your own country!!!!!!

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42 minutes ago, hansnl said:

In Thailand, as in most other countries a purely volunteer army is very difficult to fill.

A conscript army isn't that bad.

An army made up wholly of professional soldiers is bad for democracy and difficult to control.

 

Wow someones hit the bottle early. What in the world are you writing about?

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