SURVEY: Should Donald Trump get the Nobel Peace Prize?

[Justfine]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

As I say, we find our colours wherever we walk. But the big picture of conspiration? 

 

I think I got som angry answers where i refered to me being interviewed in the suicide tread, and I gave the same answer as you gave me, they cant get it all right all the time. I also believe the big companies using the media, but again the big conspiricy? All the information out there on the web, is often more a source to confusion and time consuming. 

 

So we end up trying to analyze our opinions trough the channesl we choose. I choose BBC and CNN over anything else especially Fox. But Im from a socialist country compare to USA. 

No conspiracy. People lie for money/power.

 

 

[Hummin]

Just now, Justfine said:

No conspiracy. People lie for money/power.

 

 

100% aggree, but still what we see and hear from same live source is not the same if our mind is coloured different. 

[Hummin]

The strronger feelings of the subject, the bigger differences you will have in the diversed stories. 

 

An example

10 people standing same place same view of a accident, and they are going to vitness what they actually saw. Very often you will get 10 different stories with few simular details. Exept from the most obvious core details. 

 

Edit note

If you have experienced trained trauma personell, they can give a better accurate picture of what happend, but not always 100% either. 

Edited May 14, 2018 by Hummin

[neeray]

4 minutes ago, Hummin said:

As I say, we find our colours wherever we walk. But the big picture of conspiration? 

 

I think I got som angry answers where i refered to me being interviewed in the suicide tread, and I gave the same answer as you gave me, they cant get it all right all the time. I also believe the big companies using the media, but again the big conspiricy? All the information out there on the web, is often more a source to confusion and time consuming. 

 

So we end up trying to analyze our opinions trough the channesl we choose. I choose BBC and CNN over anything else especially Fox. But Im from a socialist country compare to USA. 

Strictly my opinion. Fox is totally biased to Republicans (thus Trump). CNN has a leaning towards Democrats but do not display a blatant bias like Fox. CNN do an awful lot of Trump coverage (not often positive) but Trumps shenanigans do sell viewership, the reason why these stations exist and prosper.

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, neeray said:

Strictly my opinion. Fox is totally biased to Republicans (thus Trump). CNN has a leaning towards Democrats but do not display a blatant bias like Fox. CNN do an awful lot of Trump coverage (not often positive) but Trumps shenanigans do sell viewership, the reason why these stations exist and prosper.

Trumps personality creates alot of emotions in both sides. 

[Justfine]

6 minutes ago, neeray said:

Strictly my opinion. Fox is totally biased to Republicans (thus Trump). CNN has a leaning towards Democrats but do not display a blatant bias like Fox. CNN do an awful lot of Trump coverage (not often positive) but Trumps shenanigans do sell viewership, the reason why these stations exist and prosper.

Obviously you are biased. CNN is no less biased than Fox.

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, Justfine said:

Obviously you are biased. CNN is no less biased than Fox.

You have to aggree there is surten caracters in the Fox system that is louder, more aggressive and also maybe a bit more biased than CNN? 

 

Just a bit more leading its sheeps the the water ? 

[neeray]

7 minutes ago, Justfine said:

Obviously you are biased. CNN is no less biased than Fox.

We agree to disagree. That's healthy.

But speaking of bias, I certainly am. And not just because I support the CNN view. Anything anti Trump brings out the bias in me. How the American people ever got sucked into supporting street trash like Trump totally behooves me. When a man calls every other candidate or person who does not hold his views a liar and then turns out to be the biggest liar of them all, he deserves to be dissed by the media. Just watch CNNs "Keeping Them Honest" and you will get the message.

Can't wait for the Mid Terms !

[Scott]

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[attrayant]

19 hours ago, Catoni said:

I voted “Yes” with the condition Trump makes the deal with Kim Jong-un to scrap the hermit kingdom’s nuclear program totally. 

 

But even the fact Kim Jong-un crosses the border and met with the South Korean president and is going to Singapore to sit down with Donald Trump is nothing short of amazing.

 

Congratulations to president Trump. 

 

What has Trump done to affect the Korean situation?  A prize should be awarded only when somebody plays a direct, pivotal role in peace, like this:

 

[Justfine]

6 minutes ago, attrayant said:

 

What has Trump done to affect the Korean situation?  A prize should be awarded only when somebody plays a direct, pivotal role in peace, like this:

 

Iran is the nation in the wrong.

[Kwasaki]

10 hours ago, stevenl said:

The number of Trump supporters on TVF is really high btw with a support of 1/3rd for the prize, he won't get that much support anywhere else.

So right I was 1 of them but not now. 

The one good thing I believe he did is get Hellary out the way.

[attrayant]

15 minutes ago, Justfine said:

Iran is the nation in the wrong.

 

Two wrongs = a Nobel Peace Prize?

[Justfine]

Just now, attrayant said:

 

Two wrongs = a Nobel Peace Prize?

How about some balance.

[Hummin]

37 minutes ago, attrayant said:

 

What has Trump done to affect the Korean situation?  A prize should be awarded only when somebody plays a direct, pivotal role in peace, like this:

 

Iran attacked Israel? 

 

As far as I know, Israel have been attacking Iran several times, and also just prior to Trump announcment of withdrawel ofthe nuclare deal. Then Iran attacked the Israelian occupied Golan hight. 

 

So, tell me how crazy this world is, and how misledged we are, and what kind of illusion we are living in. 

 

It is a f.....d up world we are living in, but I have my needs covered as far as I know, and hopefully for rest of my life, so why should I care? What pisses me off, is all this extremists who believe all the shit they are served. The higher and more angry they shout, the more they trust!

 

 

 

[Hummin]

26 minutes ago, Justfine said:

How about some balance.

Two wrongs = Balance? 

 

 

[attrayant]

Here's another "peaceful" event that we can thank Trump for.  Peace prize my @$$.

 

[alocacoc]

50 minutes ago, attrayant said:

Here's another "peaceful" event that we can thank Trump for.  Peace prize my @$$.

 

Nope. You got it wrong. Israel has their right to defend them selves.  Bush, Clinton and Obama planned also to move the embassy to Jerusalem. But - what a surprise - they weren't able to hold their promises. Now we got a president who does exactly for what he got elected for. And Booom...suddenly he's the bad guy. Sooo, yes, You got it wrong.

[Hummin]

11 minutes ago, alocacoc said:

Nope. You got it wrong. Israel has their right to defend them selves.  Bush, Clinton and Obama planned also to move the embassy to Jerusalem. But - what a surprise - they weren't able to hold their promises. Now we got a president who does exactly for what he got elected for. And Booom...suddenly he's the bad guy. Sooo, yes, You got it wrong.

Israel is the biggest mistake and first mistake of UN. So many mistakes have been made in that region, and where to start? Long and violent history where some few decades before, the jewish was the terrorists in the same area. Anyway it will always be a question of human rights, and who have the rights. 

 

https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/creation-israel

Edited May 14, 2018 by Hummin

[attrayant]

Nope. You got it wrong. Israel has their right to defend them selves.

Follow the effect back to its cause: What are they defending themselves against? Palestinian protests. Why are the Palestinians protesting? Yes it’s a powder keg over there, but Trump lit this fuse.

And Booom...suddenly he's the bad guy.

No, not suddenly.

[Catoni]

16 hours ago, attrayant said:

 

What has Trump done to affect the Korean situation?  A prize should be awarded only when somebody plays a direct, pivotal role in peace, like this:

 

    You'd have to prove with hard evidence that the U.S. withdrawing from the badly flawed Iran "deal' led to Iran attacking Israel.  Iran has always had intentions to attack Israel, and has been doing so by proxy for years now in any case.  (Rob Reiner is another Hollywood elitist leftist/socialist, and suffers from and is afflicted with TDS...Trump Derangement Syndrome. He's still upset that Bernie didn't get in and that Trump won.  Any reason why I should listen to him? )

Edited May 14, 2018 by Catoni
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[Catoni]

16 hours ago, Justfine said:

Iran is the nation in the wrong.

   I agree with "Justfine".   Iran is indeed in the wrong. 

[Catoni]

3 hours ago, attrayant said:

 

Follow the effect back to its cause: What are they defending themselves against? Palestinian protests. Why are the Palestinians protesting? Yes it’s a powder keg over there, but Trump lit this fuse.



No, not suddenly.

 

  Seems like quite a few on TV that hate the Israelis and the Jews,  and side with the Islamic "Palestinians", Hezbollah, Hamas, and Iran. I bet they really miss good 'ole Yasser Arafat. 

   Why there isn't a "palestinian" state:        

 

[pegman]

5 hours ago, alocacoc said:

Nope. You got it wrong. Israel has their right to defend them selves.  Bush, Clinton and Obama planned also to move the embassy to Jerusalem. But - what a surprise - they weren't able to hold their promises. Now we got a president who does exactly for what he got elected for. And Booom...suddenly he's the bad guy. Sooo, yes, You got it wrong.

Your bunch won't be happy until things are dialed back to the 1960-70's when Isrealis and Americans were being either kidnapped or blown up. Then you can play your victim card. 

[cat handler]

On 07/05/2018 at 4:14 PM, juice777 said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

And the Pulling America out of the Paris Agreement on climate change.

 

How can any man get the peace prize after that?

 

 

 

 

 

Pretty sure it’s called a PEACE PRIZE and not a CLIMATE CHANGE PRIZE for a reason.

 

As for pulling out of the Iran Deal, didn’t Obama make deals with Korea also to stop their nuclear missile program, how did that one work out? 

[Andaman Al]

7 minutes ago, cat handler said:

 

Pretty sure it’s called a PEACE PRIZE and not a CLIMATE CHANGE PRIZE for a reason.

 

As for pulling out of the Iran Deal, didn’t Obama make deals with Korea also to stop their nuclear missile program, how did that one work out? 

Yes, and he also secured the release of 11 prisoners from NK, but without a song and a dance.

[neeray]

1 hour ago, Andaman Al said:

Yes, and he also secured the release of 11 prisoners from NK, but without a song and a dance.

Ahh yes, thanks for the memories. No big brag session about "look how great I am". I now hope these 3 former prisoners show their extreme gratitude so that they don't get dissed like the basketball players who got into some trouble in China. Bragging, so street, so childish.

[realenglish1]

4 hours ago, Andaman Al said:

Yes, and he also secured the release of 11 prisoners from NK, but without a song and a dance.

No, he did not Others went and secured their release

[Becker]

3 hours ago, neeray said:

 Bragging, so street, so childish.

Yes, so unlike the man-child, right?

[Basil B]

Monday 14 May 2018 

At least 55 murdered and thousands injured by Israelis firing live bullets at protesters protesting about Trumps big idea of moving the American Embassy to Jerusalem, and the plonker still thinks he should get the peace prize???

 

Alfred Nobel must be turning in his grave...